Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Re: First ever win of a computer against a pro 9P as black (game of Go, 9x9).

2009-10-30 Thread Petri Pitkanen
I cant recall any offocoal challenges. I do remember some such statement in
some other challenge, but failed to google it up.

Human computer chess challenges are not likely to happen anymore. What would
be the point for human? Hydra could probably beat anyone. And as processors
get faster any of top 10 programs in top commercial hardware and beat just
about anyone. Why would anyone sponsor such an event.

Corresponce chess has also suffered as everyone has access to computers and
it pretty hard to prevent cheating.

Petri


2009/10/30 Olivier Teytaud olivier.teyt...@lri.fr




 I think in correpondence chess humans still hold against computers

 Petri


 Are there sometimes games organized like that ? This is really impressive
 to me.

 (maybe MCTS might win against alpha-beta in chess with huge time settings
 :-) )



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Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Re: First ever win of a computer against a pro 9P as black (game of Go, 9x9).

2009-10-30 Thread Seo Sanghyeon
2009/10/30 Olivier Teytaud olivier.teyt...@lri.fr:
 I think in correpondence chess humans still hold against computers

 Petri

 Are there sometimes games organized like that ? This is really impressive to
 me.

Arno Nickel played three games with Hydra over a few months in 2005.
He won 2.5-0.5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Nickel

I doubt much have changed since 2005. Also note that, while certainly
among top players, Arno Nickel was never a correspondence chess
champion.

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Re: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [computer-go] Re: First ever win of a computer against a pro 9P as black (game of Go, 9x9).

2009-10-30 Thread Olivier Teytaud
Thanks a lot for this information.
This is really very interesting and not widely known.
Maybe chess is less closed than I would have believed :-)
Olivier



 Arno Nickel played three games with Hydra over a few months in 2005.
 He won 2.5-0.5

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Nickel

 I doubt much have changed since 2005. Also note that, while certainly
 among top players, Arno Nickel was never a correspondence chess
 champion.

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