Re: [computer-go] Shodan Go Bet: Nov '09 Update

[Don Dailey]

It's too early for computers to win bets like this - but it will eventually
happen.   We just need to wait a few more years which will come and go
before you realize it.

- Don


2009/11/22 terry mcintyre 

> "Any hardware which can be brought to the playing site" would presumably
> include today's baby supers, which include a few dozen cores in a desktop
> box.
>
> Would it include whatever fits into Sun's
> datacenter-in-a-shipping-container?
>
> I am less optimistic about the computer's prospects now than I was two
> years ago.
>
> Terry McIntyre 
>
> Anarchism is founded on the observation that since few men are wise enough
> to rule themselves, even fewer are wise enough to rule others. - Edward
> Abbey
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Re: [computer-go] Shodan Go Bet: Nov '09 Update

[terry mcintyre]

"Any hardware which can be brought to the playing site" would presumably 
include today's baby supers, which include a few dozen cores in a desktop box. 

Would it include whatever fits into Sun's datacenter-in-a-shipping-container?


I am less optimistic about the computer's prospects now than I was two years 
ago. 
 
Terry McIntyre 


Anarchism is founded on the observation that since few men are wise enough to 
rule themselves, even fewer are wise enough to rule others. - Edward Abbey


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[computer-go] Shodan Go Bet: Nov '09 Update

[Darren Cook]

The Shodan Go bet page has been up six months now:
   http://dcook.org/gobet/

In the voting, 128 people have now responded. For a while the three
choices (Computer Wins vs. Too Close To Call vs. John Wins) were getting
 equal numbers of votes. But recently John has pulled ahead, with 42%
thinking he will beat the computer. Uh-oh.

The deadline to play those games is the end of next year, so you
programmers have about 12 months to get your programs comfortably above
3 dan level. Please.

John and I would like to make this a face-to-face event, if we can. Is
anyone interested in sponsoring such an event, or knows a company that
might be? At this stage we're open to any and all offers and suggestions
(*). Please get in touch off-list.

It may not have the glamour of playing a professional or world champion,
but I personally feel this competition, to win against a strong human
player in an even match, is much more meaningful. There are no excuses:
no handicap, no unaffordable supercomputer and John is very familiar
with computer go.

By the way, in the other survey (when will a computer beat the world
champion?), the votes are spread quite widely, but over 60% of the
respondents think it will be some time in the next 20 years. On the
other end of the spectrum, 11 die-hards still think it will never happen.

If you disagree, and can explain why, the voting pages also allow you to
leave comments!

Darren

*: But it cannot be in Japan; a wager between two individuals is not
allowed here.

-- 
Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer
http://dcook.org/gobet/  (Shodan Go Bet - who will win?)
http://dcook.org/mlsn/ (Multilingual open source semantic network)
http://dcook.org/work/ (About me and my work)
http://dcook.org/blogs.html (My blogs and articles)

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