[CGUYS] The Consequences of EULA Violation
On reflection, the proper way to think of the EULA might be this: You, the consumer, have purchased this software and we, the provider, will support you in your use of it, provided you agree to the following terms. If you don't agree, we're not a party to it, we're not liable for anything that happens and you're on your own. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] PDF files in a Macintosh environment
On Jun 2, 2007, at 1:26 AM, David K. Watson wrote: I don't want to sound like I am playing the Blame the User game, but given your comments regarding bloat, is it possible you removed some fonts from your system? Or perhaps turned off the needed fonts with a font manager? That is a possibility, or that needed fonts may be corrupted. I'll have to look into that. Thanks. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Acrobat and Silverlight (was PDF files in a Macintosh environment)
Silverlight is designed to compete with Flash. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight XPS is designed to compete with Aodbe's PDF format. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061015-7992.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_Paper_Specification You have to marvel at the irony of someone who crows on and on about monopolies to cry about competition in dominant media formats. -Original Message- Maybe I'm wrong, but I see Adobe Acrobat and Silverlight as apples oranges. From my breif googling of Silverlight it appears to deal more multimedia while Acrobat deals more with document files. I am correct? If I am I see it threating other parts of Adobe more than the Acrobat part. If I am wrong please explain and correct me. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Acrobat and Silverlight (was PDF files in a Macintosh environment)
At 4:05 PM -0400 6/2/07, Jeff Wright wrote: You have to marvel at the irony of someone who crows on and on about monopolies to cry about competition in dominant media formats. It's a different situation. As I understand it, there are applications other than Adobe's which can create PDF's. When I was using Mac OS 9, I used PrintToPDF, for which I paid $20.00. If MS can gain a foothold with XPS, I am sure that one way or another, they will figure out how to go from a foothold to a stranglehold. They will eventually come up with extensions which will not be open in any way, and then everyone will be forced to buy only their software to generate XPs's. Remember, MS has a track record for ruthless law breaking. That WILL happen. They may even find a way to make it so that if your computer can read PDF, it will not be able to read XPS. Then by putting XPS for free on about 95% of all computers, and forcing many companies to distribute XPS documents only, PDF will slowly die. Once PDF is gone, MS might require an annual license fee to use their XPS reader. Again, MS has a track record for ruthless law breaking. Put NOTHING in a category of Oh, they wouldn't do THAT. If it comes to a point where we need to fight the creator of the software, who would you rather fight, Adobe, or MS? The next thing that you know, MS will want to replace ASCII text with a proprietary scheme! PDF works. It's now universal, as it's been around for many years. There is software other than Adobe's to generate them. There is no reason to cause an upheaval, except for the greed of MS. XPS should be stopped right now. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Acrobat and Silverlight (was PDF files in a Macintosh environment)
F.U.D.-R.L.R. (Fear Uncertainty Doubt - Repeat Lather Rinse) Yes, everything MS touches turns to gold. Their Internet strategy of owning it via MSN has paid off so handsomely for them. No, wait. It hasn't. Maybe the Xbox line will turn a profit one day too. Golly, maybe Adobe will, you know, innovate in the face of competition. -Original Message- It's a different situation. As I understand it, there are applications other than Adobe's which can create PDF's. When I was using Mac OS 9, I used PrintToPDF, for which I paid $20.00. If MS can gain a foothold with XPS, I am sure that one way or another, they will figure out how to go from a foothold to a stranglehold. They will eventually come up with extensions which will not be open in any way, and then everyone will be forced to buy only their software to generate XPs's. Remember, MS has a track record for ruthless law breaking. That WILL happen. They may even find a way to make it so that if your computer can read PDF, it will not be able to read XPS. Then by putting XPS for free on about 95% of all computers, and forcing many companies to distribute XPS documents only, PDF will slowly die. Once PDF is gone, MS might require an annual license fee to use their XPS reader. Again, MS has a track record for ruthless law breaking. Put NOTHING in a category of Oh, they wouldn't do THAT. If it comes to a point where we need to fight the creator of the software, who would you rather fight, Adobe, or MS? The next thing that you know, MS will want to replace ASCII text with a proprietary scheme! PDF works. It's now universal, as it's been around for many years. There is software other than Adobe's to generate them. There is no reason to cause an upheaval, except for the greed of MS. XPS should be stopped right now. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Seeking fax software
Any ideas of fax freeware? Or if I have to purchase fax software, which one? In all my years of computing, I've never had much luck with fax modems and faxing software on the computer. Something always seems to be screwy. Then several years ago I signed up for efax.com and have never looked back. It's cheap, does everything I need, allows me to organize and archive incoming faxes in my email folders. I often print things to pdf files too and that makes them very easy to handle. For outgoing faxes, you just upload the doc or pdf files and they just go. I upgraded my service a few years ago to allow larger volumes of faxes because I used to have to do faxes to members of some committees and that worked very well too, and was pretty cheap. I'd say, give efax.com a try for a couple of months and if it doesn't work for you, you can always go back to fighting with your software and faxmodem. -Ray * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Acrobat and Silverlight (was PDF files in a Macintosh environment)
Jeff Wright F.U.D.-R.L.R. (Fear Uncertainty Doubt - Repeat Lather Rinse) Yes, everything MS touches turns to gold. Their Internet strategy of owning it via MSN has paid off so handsomely for them. No, wait. It hasn't. Maybe the Xbox line will turn a profit one day too. Golly, maybe Adobe will, you know, innovate in the face of competition. H, word processing (WP had, MS took it away), C++ compiler (at least 2 or 3 competitors, MS took it away), Instant Messaging (primarily AOL, hmmm, not so much anymore, it turns out to have been over taken by cell phones after MS took it over...), there was a contributor here a little while ago that said that he was offered what amounted to change for his dos command line history functionality, he refused and MS announced that piece o'crap DOSKEY. Yes, MS said that stealing AOL IM was allowing MS to provide functionality that customers wanted, but the reverse wasn't available, that is MS intellectual property. Bull cookies! -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Death has been proven to be 99% fatal in laboratory rats! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
