Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
This is paranoia; turn on the XP firewall and you can go online and d/l the updates just fine. Slipstreaming is only necessary when you install the OS from scratch many times. If you are doing a one-time install, it's a waste of time. If you are behind a home router, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. You can always have someone else download the XP SP2 admin install and burn it to a disk. That way you can install the OS and the SP without plugging in the network cable. But again, this is a lot of work and time just to avoid using the current OS. Vista won't scare the horses in the street nor lose the war for the allies. It just wants a LOT of hardware to work its mojo properly. -Original Message- The main concern I would have is making certain that with the 3 year copy of the OS, you would need to build a slipstream disc that contains all the relevant SPs and critical updates. I think you'd still be able to get them from MS but the new Dell would be vulnerable if you tried to do all the updates on line. As had been said before, Dell BIOS-locks the OS to a Dell only. FWIW, I believe HP does the same. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
This is paranoia; turn on the XP firewall and you can go online and d/l the updates just fine... If you are behind a home router, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Some people will tell you with confidence that you can walk barefoot on hot coals. I say: let them do it. Call me paranoid if it makes you feel good. If you have a hardware firewall and you are sure that it has everything properly locked down and you don't do anything else but go straight to Windows update and you said your prayers, you should be able to pull this off. Be quick about going for those updates. But again, this is a lot of work and time just to avoid using the current OS. Vista won't scare the horses in the street nor lose the war for the allies. It just wants a LOT of hardware to work its mojo properly. Now you know why MS is so confident about future Vista sales. You may be better off following Windows user's favorite activity: succumb. You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with XP. Might as well do it now. Just make sure the PC you buy has all the right specs. Getting all the drivers you need for an XP install is not going to be a picnic either. So your XP driver problems may turn out to be as bad as they would be for Vista. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
There. Fixed that for you. --- Now you know why Apple is so confident about future OS X sales. You may be better off following Mac user's favorite activity: succumb. You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with OS 9. Might as well do it now. Just make sure the Mac you buy has all the right specs. Now you know why MS is so confident about future Vista sales. You may be better off following Windows user's favorite activity: succumb. You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with XP. Might as well do it now. Just make sure the PC you buy has all the right specs. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Wireless in the UK ?
Listmembers - When I last spent much time in the UK (1997 ) I had to search out internet cafes or rare connections in private homes to get online. Are there wireless ISPs now who cover the UK , and which a tourist can buy into for a month at a time or so ? Thanks for any ideas or advice , [EMAIL PROTECTED] * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with OS 9. 1. Mac had a change of microprocessor. Windows did not. The change was because although at the introduction of the IBM PPC, it was superior to the Intel offering, over the years, Intel worked hard and pulled ahead while IBM's progress was shallow. This was beyond Apple's control and could not be foreseen. To Apple's credit, after the switch to Mac OS X, they made it possible, for many years, to run Mac OS 9 and OS X *at the same time* on PPC machines; stopping this ability only after the switch to a completely different microprocessor. 2. Mac OS X is far superior to Mac OS 9, and the new microprocessor is superior to the old one, so you gain a lot by switching. Vista is not far superior to XP. You gain very little by switching. I don't think that you can run Vista and XP at the same time, unless you use a third party virtualization program. You can re-boot the Mac and run it in XP. Probably someone will figure out how to re-boot the Mac and choose either XP or Vista! There. Fixed that for you. --- Now you know why Apple is so confident about future OS X sales. You may be better off following Mac user's favorite activity: succumb. You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with OS 9. Might as well do it now. Just make sure the Mac you buy has all the right specs. Now you know why MS is so confident about future Vista sales. You may be better off following Windows user's favorite activity: succumb. You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with XP. Might as well do it now. Just make sure the PC you buy has all the right specs. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Replacing Vista with XP
You know that eventually they will make it impossible for you to stay with XP I'm not quite clear on this. Are we saying that MS should continue to sell both XP and Vista indefinitely? Does Apple do that? I don't think that you can run Vista and XP at the same time, unless you use a third party virtualization program. Actually, MS's VirtualPC will do that just fine, and it's free. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
