Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.
From:John Emmerling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:48:04 -0400 Does computer #2 have VPN software installed? I had a similar problem. It turned out that the VPN requires a security driver to be installed which can be disabled when editing connection properties (but then the VPN won't work). How do I find out if I'm running VPN? Do I need VPN? Quentin A. Fisher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.
Most likely, if you don't know what it is, you don't have it. However, if you work from home and have to enter a login id and password to access your company's internal network, then you are probably using a VPN (although I believe there are other products that have similar functionality). On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Q. Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From:John Emmerling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:48:04 -0400 Does computer #2 have VPN software installed? I had a similar problem. It turned out that the VPN requires a security driver to be installed which can be disabled when editing connection properties (but then the VPN won't work). How do I find out if I'm running VPN? Do I need VPN? Quentin A. Fisher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.
Quentin, VPN software allows you to work on your office computer from home via a Virtual Private Network. If you have this capability, then you have VPN software installed. Q. Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I find out if I'm running VPN? Do I need VPN? Quentin A. Fisher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.
In my case, I don't work on my office computer when using the VPN. The VPN software is installed on my home computer. Basically it puts me inside the corporate firewall. I could work on my office computer if I had the software necessary to remote to it, which I do not. It makes sense from a security point of view that the VPN would require access to my home network to be restricted when I am inside the corporate firewall. The problem is that this restriction is in effect at all times unless I manually disable it at a low level. This may just be a reflection of my lack of understanding of the VPN software. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ellen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quentin, VPN software allows you to work on your office computer from home via a Virtual Private Network. If you have this capability, then you have VPN software installed. Q. Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I find out if I'm running VPN? Do I need VPN? Quentin A. Fisher * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
Thanks for the warning. If you become aware of a fix, please let us know. Thanks. db Richard P. wrote: The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] CPCUG EC: PC Cleaning and More, July 19
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
Can you explain in more detail what this means? I have nothing in the Programs dialog of the Zone Alarm firewall set to block (with a couple of exceptions). I have almost everything set to ask. (And I have only a couple of things set to allow.) So won't the Zone Alarm firewall ask when some program / dll / xx needs access? That's what has always happened when I'm updating software (which I always do manually, never automatically). If the new Windows Update needs access to something new, wouldn't a change in the setting of the Zone Alarm firewall allow that access? (So that automatic updates could be enabled, if one wished.) Is there something in the Zone Alarm firewall that always blocks some specific access channel no matter what the settings are? I see that MS is up to it's usual tactics: DOS isn't done 'til Lotus won't run. Fred Holmes At 02:30 PM 7/9/2008, Richard P. wrote: The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
Richard P. While that would work, it is advised that doing so would leave a security hole. There are some other, more complicated workarounds/fixes which look promising. If this isn't resolved soon, I may pursue them. I don't normally suggest this(*), but why not just use the firewall that comes with Windows? ZoneAlarm maybe be better but it's currently broke... * Suggest using something from MS... -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
That's precisely what I've done as my workaround. Richard P. While that would work, it is advised that doing so would leave a security hole. There are some other, more complicated workarounds/fixes which look promising. If this isn't resolved soon, I may pursue them. I don't normally suggest this(*), but why not just use the firewall that comes with Windows? ZoneAlarm maybe be better but it's currently broke... * Suggest using something from MS... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
But according to this article on the Washington Post's website, even applying the patch won't, in and of itself, protect you from the undocumented feature in DNS. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/patch_the_entire_inte rnet_tues_1.html The updates Microsoft released Tuesday fix the problem in computers powered by its Windows operating system. But Kaminsky said the larger issue lies at the Internet service provider and corporate level, as many businesses who run DNS servers have yet to update their systems to guard against the vulnerability. In fact, even regular home users who apply the Microsoft updates could still be vulnerable if their ISP hasn't yet addressed the problem. (Kaminsky has a tool up his Web site - http://www.doxpara.com - that allows visitors to tell if their ISP or employer is vulnerable to the flaw. Visiting that site from my home PC indicates that my provider -- Cox Communications -- in Northern Virginia has not yet fixed this flaw on their end.) Kaminsky said while end users should be concerned about this flaw, they shouldn't panic, and there is no evidence to date that hackers have figured out how to exploit the DNS vulnerability. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P. Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:17 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm That's precisely what I've done as my workaround. Richard P. While that would work, it is advised that doing so would leave a security hole. There are some other, more complicated workarounds/fixes which look promising. If this isn't resolved soon, I may pursue them. I don't normally suggest this(*), but why not just use the firewall that comes with Windows? ZoneAlarm maybe be better but it's currently broke... * Suggest using something from MS... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where's my computer?
I thought Tom's recent post was even more derisive than normal. It felt to me, as if it touched some sort of nerve with him. My writing that Mac owners are more emotionally attached to their computers and therefore less likely to be careless with them was hardly inflammatory, unless one were already inclined to be inflamed. My suggestion that Mac owners are more ardent seems to have touched a nerve. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Can't access a computer over the network.
Where do I look for those log files, and what do I look for in them? Right-click on MyComputer and select Manage. You should see several different logs under System Tools. Start with the Security log. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Amazon's S3 service and Jungle disk or Google docs
I didn't realize you had so much data Paula. Mozy Home would not be the best solution for that amount... it is oriented for avg. people's document storage. Not sure Mozy Pro would be better either. For those avg. amounts Mozy does take a day to do the initial backup (at a 2gb to 9gb / day rate) but thereafter it only does differential backup for anything that has changed or been added/ deleted so it doesn't take long after the initial backup has been completed. And Mozy is meant only as a backup tool ... not filesharing or online storage ... thus the $4.95/ mo. unlimited storage good price and easy interface. And if you look at Mozy's options you will see you can throttle the bandwidth it uses or schedule it's operation for convenient periods so it should never interfere with other processes. Also Mozy is owned by a blue chip company EMC (VMware...) so they will be around and stay competitive.They now are expanding Mozy technology into enterprise backups with Mozy Enterprise. But S3/ Jungle disk is probably more the kind of online storage tool for you. It will cost more and take more work on your part but give you the flexibility and scale you want. db Paula Minor wrote: For your wife, I would recommend Mozy Home. It's transparent with a decent user interface, it's free up to a certain size, cheap after that, you can have a private key or one that can be recovered from Mozy.You just can't do filesharing... only backup and restore. db DB, I just signed up for Mozy at home. Price was great for unlimited storage. But, it is so S-L-O-W that it's almost pointless to have. It will take me YEARS to back everything up at this rate. I have 450 GB of music,podcasts,tv shows, photos,plugins and documents to back up. I am on a Macmaybe that makes a difference but it has Mac software. I had it running for 24 hrs and it had only uploaded a tiny fraction of a % of the total files! So I stopped it and set it to only backup my documents folder which is 13GB. It has been running all day and only has 10% uploaded so far. It also slows down my web browsing and I couldn't get email to go out unless I stopped it. It's running now and email is going out so not sure what changed. All in all, unless you only have a tiny amount to backup, I don't think it's such a good solution. And, you can't go on and see your files. You have to redownload the backup to see it. Guess I'll stick with external drives and try to remember to take it to my son's house. Oh, I'm on Comcast Cable with currently 19703 kbps down and 1511 kbps up Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
This is good to know, thanks. My thinking is that the patch, while not complete, is better than no patch; as is the Windows firewall. Thanks also for the Kaminsky tip. Richard P. But according to this article on the Washington Post's website, even applying the patch won't, in and of itself, protect you from the undocumented feature in DNS. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/patch_the_entire_inte rnet_tues_1.html The updates Microsoft released Tuesday fix the problem in computers powered by its Windows operating system. But Kaminsky said the larger issue lies at the Internet service provider and corporate level, as many businesses who run DNS servers have yet to update their systems to guard against the vulnerability. In fact, even regular home users who apply the Microsoft updates could still be vulnerable if their ISP hasn't yet addressed the problem. (Kaminsky has a tool up his Web site - http://www.doxpara.com - that allows visitors to tell if their ISP or employer is vulnerable to the flaw. Visiting that site from my home PC indicates that my provider -- Cox Communications -- in Northern Virginia has not yet fixed this flaw on their end.) Kaminsky said while end users should be concerned about this flaw, they shouldn't panic, and there is no evidence to date that hackers have figured out how to exploit the DNS vulnerability. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
I also have Cox as my Internet provider, but use OpenDNS, which checks out as OK using Doxpara.com. Apparently, they've done their homework. Chalk up another one up for open source. Richard P. Larry wrote: But according to this article on the Washington Post's website, even applying the patch won't, in and of itself, protect you from the undocumented feature in DNS. http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/07/patch_the_entire_inte rnet_tues_1.html The updates Microsoft released Tuesday fix the problem in computers powered by its Windows operating system. But Kaminsky said the larger issue lies at the Internet service provider and corporate level, as many businesses who run DNS servers have yet to update their systems to guard against the vulnerability. In fact, even regular home users who apply the Microsoft updates could still be vulnerable if their ISP hasn't yet addressed the problem. (Kaminsky has a tool up his Web site - http://www.doxpara.com - that allows visitors to tell if their ISP or employer is vulnerable to the flaw. Visiting that site from my home PC indicates that my provider -- Cox Communications -- in Northern Virginia has not yet fixed this flaw on their end.) Kaminsky said while end users should be concerned about this flaw, they shouldn't panic, and there is no evidence to date that hackers have figured out how to exploit the DNS vulnerability. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
The only indication which pointed me in the direction of Zone Alarm were two warnings from ZA which displayed that it had blocked Windows Update, as well as Mozilla's Firefox. There was no place in ZA (that I know of), to confirm this and/or to unblock this move. I never got a prompt which asked me how I wanted to control the program. Update: at this point, ZA's official workaround is to uninstall MS's Update. It looks like they are throwing the ball back into MS's court. Richard P. Can you explain in more detail what this means? I have nothing in the Programs dialog of the Zone Alarm firewall set to block (with a couple of exceptions). I have almost everything set to ask. (And I have only a couple of things set to allow.) So won't the Zone Alarm firewall ask when some program / dll / xx needs access? That's what has always happened when I'm updating software (which I always do manually, never automatically). If the new Windows Update needs access to something new, wouldn't a change in the setting of the Zone Alarm firewall allow that access? (So that automatic updates could be enabled, if one wished.) Is there something in the Zone Alarm firewall that always blocks some specific access channel no matter what the settings are? I see that MS is up to it's usual tactics: DOS isn't done 'til Lotus won't run. Fred The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
I didn't know about the issue but first suspected the MS security patch as the culprit since the MBP in the living room was still on line through same wireless router connection to Comcast after the XP box had been updated and restarted. I chose to roll back the patch and wait for a fix as I'm also doing for SP3. YMMV Subject: Re: Windows Update/ Zone Alarm How about uninstalling the update, disabling automatic updates and then not installing this one until a viable fix is out? The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. -- He may be mad, but there's method in his madness. There nearly always is method in madness. It's what drives men mad, being methodical. - GK Chesterton * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/download_firewall.html I've got a friend using that, well liked. It got very positive reviews from pc mag and cnet...not sure if that matters to you. It's also got full vista 32/64 bit support. And it's free. Mike On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM, MrMike6by9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know about the issue but first suspected the MS security patch as the culprit since the MBP in the living room was still on line through same wireless router connection to Comcast after the XP box had been updated and restarted. I chose to roll back the patch and wait for a fix as I'm also doing for SP3. YMMV Subject: Re: Windows Update/ Zone Alarm How about uninstalling the update, disabling automatic updates and then not installing this one until a viable fix is out? The latest version of Windows Update is incompatible with Zone Alarm, causing the firewall to block access to the Internet via IE and/or Firefox. Zone Alarm is working on a solution, but in the meantime, I've shutdown ZA and gone back to Windows firewall until they can get along. -- He may be mad, but there's method in his madness. There nearly always is method in madness. It's what drives men mad, being methodical. - GK Chesterton * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm
I've been looking around for a free firewall program that will allow the importation of blocklists...any suggestions appreciated, running vista 64bit. Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
