[CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Speed Test: Windows 7 May Not Be Much Faster Than Vista http://www.pcworld.com/article/164485/speed_test_windows_7_may_not_be_much_ faster_than_vista.html PC World's speed tests against Vista show Win7 is 1-4 percent faster, below the threshold of human perception. Why am I not $urprised? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Speed Test: Windows 7 May Not Be Much Faster Than Vista http://www.pcworld.com/article/164485/speed_test_windows_7_may_not_be_much_ faster_than_vista.html PC World's speed tests against Vista show Win7 is 1-4 percent faster, below the threshold of human perception. Wow. They couldn't even wait for the article to whip out the weasel words. *May* not be *much* faster? On a synthetic test? Ye gods! What an indictment! Guards! Guards! Why am I not $urprised? Because, like the Spanish Inquisition, no one ever expects confirmation bias (not). BTW, is the $ pronounced like a lisp or more of a whistle? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Wow. They couldn't even wait for the article to whip out the weasel words. *May* not be *much* faster? On a synthetic test? Is this the best you could do? I guess it is tough not having right on your side. Why am I nor $urprised? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] OT: Cable Digital TV
I ordered a Tivax STB-T8 yesterday. Has good reviews, customers and review sites. I have it and much regret the purchase. Poor sensitivity. Crummy remote. Slow to change channels. Poor display of program info. Suspect they paid for good reviews or the other boxes must be really bad. The RCA box we have works much better. We have an excellent RCA powered VHF/UHF antenna that we'll use with it; might hook up the roof antenna. Since the TV's only used for late night shows and watching sports when local stations are blacked out, it doesn't have to be anything except a receiver. I don't care about program info display, just picture. I know which channels to watch [must find new numbers] and when the shows are on. Besides we can always look at our big TVs for program info. Reception depends a lot on where you live and which antenna you use, too. Customer reviews vary widely on all products, so you have to pick and choose, then cross your fingers when you buy a device. This one got great reviews and awful reviews, like most converters, except the ones that only got awful reviews. None got all good reviews. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Is this the best you could do? *I* don't have to do much at all. The question you should be asking, Is this the best the reviewer could do? I guess it is tough not having right on your side. Very true, which is why the article comes off as so weak. Speaking of weak: PC World's speed tests against Vista show Win7 is 1-4 percent faster, below the threshold of human perception. When the subject was DDR3 RAM, the measly 2-5% increase in performance was worth real money to you. Now, a virtually identical range is imperceptible. Which is it? Oh, you have conflicting opinions again. Me? Surprised? Nah. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Writers in the tech press are stating frankly that M$ (lisp or whistle here, which ever appeals) is continuing their trend of slowing operating systems. XP was slower than NT/2000. Vista is slower than XP. Now w7 will be slower than Vista. My dog can detect trends this obvious! Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Wow. They couldn't even wait for the article to whip out the weasel words. *May* not be *much* faster? On a synthetic test? Ye gods! What an indictment! Guards! Guards! Why am I not $urprised? Because, like the Spanish Inquisition, no one ever expects confirmation bias (not). BTW, is the $ pronounced like a lisp or more of a whistle? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Writers in the tech press are stating frankly that M$ (lisp or whistle here, which ever appeals) is continuing their trend of slowing operating systems. XP was slower than NT/2000. Vista is slower than XP. Now w7 will be slower than Vista. My dog can detect trends this obvious! Time to send Fido back to trend analysis school. Even the article didn't say that Win7 is slower than Vista. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Time to send Fido back to trend analysis school. Even the article didn't say that Win7 is slower than Vista. As you pointed out, testing used synthetic benchmarks. Vendors tend to code for these well-known benchmarks. We expect real world experience to be worse. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
As you pointed out, testing used synthetic benchmarks. Vendors tend to code for these well-known benchmarks. We expect real world experience to be worse. Actually, the expectation is that real-world results will be just be different. Synthetic benchmarks only measure what they were designed to measure. Let's just conveniently forget the hundreds of hands-on reviews that *all* indicated much better performance on the same hardware over Vista. We found the one that says what you want it to say. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
You have a talent for missing the obvious. My comment about DDR was in regards to one improvement out of many. A series of small improvements will add up: 2% here, 3% there, 1% someplace else... and the total can be 20%, 30%, 40%, 100% or more. That's how the job is done. You said no such thing in this instance. You said: Old benchmarks run with old chipsets that don't take advantage of DDR3 show speed increases of 2 to 5 percent. Not much, but not bad for $12. You then tried to pull a fast one by linking to a Mac Mini review that was faster for all sorts of reasons other than the RAM. So which is it? Is 1-4% not bad or imperceptible? Note that 75% of the range of 1-4% is within 2-5%. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Just for grins and googles, I did sample searches and found the following: Results 1 - 10 of about 4,350 for windows 7 faster http://www.google.com/search?source=ighl=enrlz=q=%22windows+7+faster%22a q=foq= Results 1 - 10 of about 98 for windows 7 slower http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22windows+7+slower%22 A 44-1 ratio of the word faster over slower. And, oh look!, a review where Win7 is faster than both Vista and XP SP3: http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3187 It all depends on what you measure and how you measure performance. -Original Message- As you pointed out, testing used synthetic benchmarks. Vendors tend to code for these well-known benchmarks. We expect real world experience to be worse. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Verizon TV Box
Is it possible to buy the Verizon TV box rather than leasing them? I would like to take advantage of the great deals Verizon is pushing right now, but the leasing of a box for each TV is a deal killer. Are there aftermarket boxes which will work? Can we use one box and distribute it around the house to the other TV's? Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
A 44-1 ratio of the word faster over slower. Did you search on unimpressive? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Jeff Wright As you pointed out, testing used synthetic benchmarks. Vendors tend to code for these well-known benchmarks. We expect real world experience to be worse. Actually, the expectation is that real-world results will be just be different. Synthetic benchmarks only measure what they were designed to measure. Let's just conveniently forget the hundreds of hands-on reviews that *all* indicated much better performance on the same hardware over Vista. We found the one that says what you want it to say. The only thing I've heard of definitively is that it doesn't require as much in the line of resources (memory, graphics performance, etc.) System performance is still waiting for Release Candidate experience. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly What's 20,000 lawyers rotting in a swamp? A GOOD Start! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Mac Mini review that was faster for all sorts of reasons Despite your ureasoned commentary, the text you quote makes exactly that point faster for all sorts of reasons. That's the difference of looking at parts vs looking at the whole. This magazine's speed test shows that as a whole Win7 is unimpressive. QED Perhaps you want to start a rant about PCWorld being a bunch of Mac zealots? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Let's just conveniently forget the hundreds of hands-on reviews that *all* indicated much better performance on the same hardware over Vista. We found the one that says what you want it to say. PCWorld is the first to run scientific benchmarks. I find your don't-bother-me-with-the-facts attitude appalling. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon TV Box
Are there aftermarket boxes which will work? The Telecommunications Act of 1996 requires that aftermarket boxes work. They have to supply a CableCARD for a nominal fee. Like many other laws under Bush, this requirement has not been effectively enforced. Nice article on this at Wikipedia. Can we use one box and distribute it around the house to the other TV's? Yes, but all sets would get the same channel as the box contains the tuner. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Despite your ureasoned commentary, the text you quote makes exactly that point faster for all sorts of reasons. That's the difference of looking at parts vs looking at the whole. This magazine's speed test shows that as a whole Win7 is unimpressive. Guard, turn, dodge, parry, spin, thrust! Can't answer the question? I didn't think you could. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
You bet it's appalling, that's exclusively your gig. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: PCWorld is the first to run scientific benchmarks. I find your don't-bother-me-with-the-facts attitude appalling. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
PCWorld is the first to run scientific benchmarks. Three unconfirmed tests by some slacker are scientific? You sound like a fine, upstanding young man, allow me to tell you about a slightly used bridge I have for sale. Oh, and no they aren't the first; far from it. I linked to a scientific test posted in December 2008 that showed very different results. I find your don't-bother-me-with-the-facts attitude appalling. I find your just-show-me-the-facts-I-want-to-see attitude sad. Funny too, but mostly sad. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon TV Box
I would guess that a nominal fee would still involve a monthly charge. I'd rather just pay once up front. Understood about the single box = single channel. How would the distribution be done? Is there a recommended device? Thanks in advance. Richard P. Are there aftermarket boxes which will work? The Telecommunications Act of 1996 requires that aftermarket boxes work. They have to supply a CableCARD for a nominal fee. Like many other laws under Bush, this requirement has not been effectively enforced. Nice article on this at Wikipedia. Can we use one box and distribute it around the house to the other TV's? Yes, but all sets would get the same channel as the box contains the tuner. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon TV Box
I would guess that a nominal fee would still involve a monthly charge. I'd rather just pay once up front. It might. I vaguely remember something like $2. Understood about the single box = single channel. How would the distribution be done? Is there a recommended device? Standard coax splitter I would think. It depends on the signal strength and the number of taps you need. Worse case you get a distribution amplifier. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon TV Box
Just because they use the word FiOS doesn't mean the company policies/motives differ from those of the cablecos. The laws and regs (they helped to deveop them through lobbying, etc.) only mandate that you can get a signal that works with your equipment but it doesn't require those firms to give that signal to you for free. Thus, it is rare, if not impossible, for you to be able to purchase an interface device that the provider is required to let you use for free access to the provider's content. They are free to charge you for that interface device on a recurring basis (aka monthly rental) and are not required to sell it to you or to authorize your privately acquired device(s) on their system. The old, analog OTA, was grandfathered in but that is going away with the digital transition. Comcast is converting the analog tier to digital because of the capacity competition from Verizon. Up to 6 digital channels fit in the space required for 1 analog channel. Think business model. It is not unlike the old days of the Bell monopoly when you were required to rent their devices to use on their systems to make/receive phone calls. Maybe something similar will happen there ... we can only hope. I just switched from Comcast (Baltimore County) to Verizon 2 days ago. because of the rebate for my bundle and the fact that Comcast had already begun to disable my ability to use my DVDR's Tivo's for time-shifting/viewing WETA and the Cartoon Network. No jokes please, I happen to like Adult Swim. I can eventually get cablecards for my Series 3 but, for now, I'm using the FiOS DVR's to see if I'd prefer use them (rentals) vs. renting the cable cards needed for the Series 3 since cable cards do not currently support OnDemand (which I occasionally use) and PPV (never used). In answer to the second question, you would get the same channel on all outlets. YMMV PS - I miss my PiP, especially during intense sports seasons. YMMV, part deux --- This scotch tastes incredibly expensive . . . I can practically feel my bank account being emptied with every subsequent dram . . . note the rich character . . . he is now a poor character. . . -- Subject: Verizon TV Box Is it possible to buy the Verizon TV box rather than leasing them? I would like to take advantage of the great deals Verizon is pushing right now, but the leasing of a box for each TV is a deal killer. Are there aftermarket boxes which will work? Can we use one box and distribute it around the house to the other TV's? Thanks in advance, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
FWIW, I installed Win 7 RC on a Intel dual core w 2 gigs ram and a nvidia 512 graphics card. 160gb new SATA drive in less than 20 minutes to the final desktop. YMMV Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Win7 Speed Improvement Was M$ B$
Don't start getting facts in the way of Tom's BS, I'm using it to help get my yard in this weekend. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Rich Schinnell richnrockvi...@gmail.comwrote: FWIW, I installed Win 7 RC on a Intel dual core w 2 gigs ram and a nvidia 512 graphics card. 160gb new SATA drive in less than 20 minutes to the final desktop. YMMV Rich * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] EMachines Recovery Disc cutoff date
At one time Emachines came with discs. I am still bale to download drivers from the web. best option? Install new HD and load XP The same flavor that came with it.) Make sure you have downloaded the drivers and put them on a CD or a flash drive, and load it up. makes a nice print server. Stewart At 02:07 PM 5/5/2009, you wrote: I am trying to repair a wormy EMachines W3107 with a damaged recovery partition. I contacted tech support for a disc set, and they said: We do not keep recovery disc images prior to March 2006. and they could not provide a set. This is a very disturbing development ... Comments? Help?; * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Botnets
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/05/researchers-hijack-botnet-score-56000-passwords-in-an-hour.ars Researchers at the University of California Santa Barbara have published a paper detailing their findings after hijacking a botnet for ten days earlier this year. Among other things, the researchers were able to collect 70GB of data that the bots stole from users, including 56,000 passwords gathered within a single hour. ... (Comically, the report notes that 0.1 percent of Torpig victims love exchanging insults online ... Only 0.1% ? Obviously, people in this list weren't a part of _that_ botnet. BTW, interesting last paragraph in the article. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Boy you are no fun. Make mine a Labatts. Stewart At 08:45 PM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Um...no. Unless you throw in beer and pizza. I'll be friends with anyone for beer and pizza! Good plan. Count me in for beer and pizza too as long as it is not Budweiser, the Vista of Beers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon TV Box
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: I would guess that a nominal fee would still involve a monthly charge. I'd rather just pay once up front. It might. I vaguely remember something like $2. Might be $3/month/card but that is the right ball park. A TiVO series 3 needed two cable cards and would not work with the multi cable card. Understood about the single box = single channel. How would the distribution be done? Is there a recommended device? Standard coax splitter I would think. It depends on the signal strength and the number of taps you need. Worse case you get a distribution amplifier. You need to hook your router/modem as supplied by Verizon to the cable wires in the house. I have a pretty gnarly collection of wires from the Cox/Media General cable days that they hooked the cable feed to from the outside FIOS box. It worked fine in SD all over the house until they went all digital. I now need a QAM decoder to watch what cable channels are in the clear and a box that will either accept a cable card or a box from Verizon. I think there are boxes that you can tell VZ something like a MAC address but I haven't researched that yet. John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Boy you are no fun. Make mine a Labatts. You DRINK Lab rats? I thought you roast them on a stick. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
