Re: [CGUYS] Water Cooling
Hi; I live on a boat. Salt air is notorious for killing electronics. I'm building a new computer. I'm adding a water cooling system so I can eliminate fans (not for speed). Now I'm wondering if I can seal the box up so no air enters. Ideas? Anybody tried this? TIA, Victor Since both Panasonic and General Dynamics Itronix have excellent rugged computers, why not use the Toughbook or GoBook instead of reinventing? These rugged computers are designed to withstand temperature extremes, humidity, vibration, dust, drops and spills. They're not cheap, but you get a computer designed for extreme conditions, including snow, and that works well. Put your money toward one of these: - http://www.gd-itronix.com/index.cfm?page=Products:GD8000 - http://www.gd-itronix.com/index.cfm?page=Products:MR-1 - http://www.gd-itronix.com/index.cfm?page=Products:GD6000 General Dynamics Itronix Rain Chamber: http://www.gd-itronix.com/upload/videos/ruggedPage/rainChamber.wmv - http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-laptop-toughbook-19.asp - http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/fully-rugged-laptop-toughbook-30.asp - http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/ultra-mobile-rugged-toughbook-u1-UMPC.asp Do you REALLY want a desktop computer on a BOAT, even if it's a houseboat? I have friends on houseboats around here [Chesapeake Bay and CD Canal] and my friends have Macbook Pros, not even rugged notebooks. The GoBook MR-1 fits my requirements. It fits in a cargo pocket, and has a usable keyboard, WiFi, card slot, etc. Buy a solar PV charger for backup and an extra battery to go with your GD Itronix or Panasonic notebook. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] SPDY: Google wants to speed up the web by ditching HTTP
http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/11/spdy-google-wants-to-speed-up-the-web-by-ditching-http.ars Google's ability to zero in on projects that are truly useful is impressive. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Borrowing the Z OS from M$ and the design from Apple gets us what?
Dell Inspiron Zino HD Desktop http://www.dell.com/us/en/corp/desktops/inspiron-zino-hd/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-zino-hds=corp Innovation means picking a different color than Apple's case. Has fewer ports too. I guess Intel was not providing any reference designs with more ports. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Borrowing the Z OS from M$ and the design from Apple gets us what?
Fewer ports than what? This seems targeted at the mac mini, it starts out at half the cost? It has esata...no esata on mac mini. It has HDMI and full 1080p out...nope not for mac mini. It has a blu ray drive...sorry, none for ANY mac yet. The mac mini is targeted as an expensive nettop computer for someone doing email, this dell is targeted as a low end media device that still offers some higher end features like full HD. To be honest, I don't think there is a mac comparison to this, apple doesn't offer a media box of this caliber yet. Maybe next year. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Dell Inspiron Zino HD Desktop http://www.dell.com/us/en/corp/desktops/inspiron-zino-hd/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-zino-hds=corp Innovation means picking a different color than Apple's case. Has fewer ports too. I guess Intel was not providing any reference designs with more ports. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] SPDY: Google wants to speed up the web by ditching HTTP
Indeed, this would be great if it works. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:53 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/11/spdy-google-wants-to-speed-up-the-web-by-ditching-http.ars Google's ability to zero in on projects that are truly useful is impressive. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Borrowing the Z OS from M$ and the design from Apple gets us what?
And pretty loaded still less than 1000. I priced one out with a good complement of stuff (1 TB drive, 4 GB memory) and it was only 733. With the advent of SDHC card Video cams no longer a need for firewire. Not a bad little cube. No longer the need for these big old ugly computer desks. Stewart At 02:14 PM 11/15/2009, you wrote: Fewer ports than what? This seems targeted at the mac mini, it starts out at half the cost? It has esata...no esata on mac mini. It has HDMI and full 1080p out...nope not for mac mini. It has a blu ray drive...sorry, none for ANY mac yet. The mac mini is targeted as an expensive nettop computer for someone doing email, this dell is targeted as a low end media device that still offers some higher end features like full HD. To be honest, I don't think there is a mac comparison to this, apple doesn't offer a media box of this caliber yet. Maybe next year. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Dell Inspiron Zino HD Desktop http://www.dell.com/us/en/corp/desktops/inspiron-zino-hd/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-zino-hds=corp Innovation means picking a different color than Apple's case. Has fewer ports too. I guess Intel was not providing any reference designs with more ports. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Borrowing the Z OS from M$ and the design from Apple gets us what?
ESATA also..makes firewire look like a red headed step child. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: And pretty loaded still less than 1000. I priced one out with a good complement of stuff (1 TB drive, 4 GB memory) and it was only 733. With the advent of SDHC card Video cams no longer a need for firewire. Not a bad little cube. No longer the need for these big old ugly computer desks. Stewart At 02:14 PM 11/15/2009, you wrote: Fewer ports than what? This seems targeted at the mac mini, it starts out at half the cost? It has esata...no esata on mac mini. It has HDMI and full 1080p out...nope not for mac mini. It has a blu ray drive...sorry, none for ANY mac yet. The mac mini is targeted as an expensive nettop computer for someone doing email, this dell is targeted as a low end media device that still offers some higher end features like full HD. To be honest, I don't think there is a mac comparison to this, apple doesn't offer a media box of this caliber yet. Maybe next year. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Dell Inspiron Zino HD Desktop http://www.dell.com/us/en/corp/desktops/inspiron-zino-hd/pd.aspx?refid=inspiron-zino-hds=corp Innovation means picking a different color than Apple's case. Has fewer ports too. I guess Intel was not providing any reference designs with more ports. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Borrowing the Z OS from M$ and the design from Apple gets us what?
Oh, look! The Inspiron Zino has a *tray-loading* DVD burner! Of course, it's Inspiron, not Latitude. Why it's like a multi-color Mac Mini with a huge fan! Zino has no FireWire; Mini does and can be easily modded to use eSATA. The Mini can connect to HDMI with a DVI-HDMI cable, so direct HDMI and HD is no big deal, but you have to use your own speakers, as if a monitor with speakers sounds all that good. Or you can connect either one to a big screen LCD/LED/plasma TV. And who wants Blu-Ray anyway? Get a life! I'll take the Mac Mini over this one any day--and add color myself--or not. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Borrowing the Z OS from M$ and the design from Apple gets us what?
Who wants BluRay? Millions...Millions of people. All those yahoos who buy big screen tvs. I said this myself, this zino thing isn't aimed at the mac mini, different tools for different jobs. The zino doesn't need FW since it has the much faster ESATA. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:24 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Oh, look! The Inspiron Zino has a *tray-loading* DVD burner! Of course, it's Inspiron, not Latitude. Why it's like a multi-color Mac Mini with a huge fan! Zino has no FireWire; Mini does and can be easily modded to use eSATA. The Mini can connect to HDMI with a DVI-HDMI cable, so direct HDMI and HD is no big deal, but you have to use your own speakers, as if a monitor with speakers sounds all that good. Or you can connect either one to a big screen LCD/LED/plasma TV. And who wants Blu-Ray anyway? Get a life! I'll take the Mac Mini over this one any day--and add color myself--or not. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
