Re: [CGUYS] Death to M$; Death to Apple
A little less of your ego and you might actually consider what I'm saying. We, you and I have no idea what technology will be here in a decade, two decades, longer..it is presumptuous to assume you are just smarter than the previous generations and will just grok it. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:25 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > mike escribió: > > > >> I get the feeling Betty is that farmer on the side of the road 100 years >> ago >> ridiculing his neighbor for using a fancy tractor with one of those >> engines >> to plow his field instead of the tried and true mule or team of horses. >> Sure the next few years...decade...the horse was pretty reliable, but it >> didn't take long before that farmer was left behind still crowing about >> how >> bad those jalopies were. >> >> I think back to teaching my great uncle the computer basics, a man with >> two doctorates, a world traveler, decorated officer in WW2, >> composer...friend to several presidents. The computer was just beyond >> him...technology had grown from his grasp of the age he was born in. Will >> we be like that when our children or grand children are running around >> with >> the newest tech? >> > > > Hej sonny boy. Old folks in your great uncle's generation--and > older--invented computers. > > I studied programming long before PCs. I've worked for companies via the > Internet and never met any other employees in person. My brother and I built > a mechanical computer as a school project [after the 5 foot slide rule was > done]. There are sensible uses for technology, fun things to do, expensive > business applications, and pie-in-the-sky geek fantasies. > > It makes sense to use redundant remote storage for business. It's overkill > for an individual to store all personal files remotely. It's also stupid. > Why? The Internet isn't everywhere, so your files are locked away in the > "cloud" until you can get them. I store duplicates of important files on the > Internet for when we're traveling. Most of the time I can't access them from > our remote locations, so I have to carry cryptic info with me. > > Put your imagination to work on something more useful. Why not write some > viruses? That's a fun hobby. > > Betty > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Try Out Chrome OS In a Virtual Machine
from Slashdot [glad I just installed VirtualBox]: Technology: Try Out Chrome OS In a Virtual Machine Friday November 20, @09:55PM Posted by Soulskill on Friday November 20, @09:55PM from the that-didn't-take-long dept. itwbennett writes: "Some very generous Alpha OS geeks have snagged the Chrome OS source code and compiled a version to share with the rest of us, writes blogger Peter Smith. 'The build comes in the form of a virtual machine, which means you'll need VMWare or VirtualBox running, and of course the image of Chrome OS itself. The folks at gdgt are distributing the latter, and they've set up a page with all the links you'll need. You'll need to create a gdgt account if you don't have one yet. The Chrome OS image is only a bit over 300 megs, so it's a fast download. If you need a little more handholding, TechCrunch has a step-by-step guide to getting Chrome OS installed and running using VirtualBox, and a Chrome OS torrent they link to.'" find links: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/11/21/0022253/Try-Out-Chrome-OS-In-a-Virtual-Machine Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Death to M$; Death to Apple
mike escribió: I get the feeling Betty is that farmer on the side of the road 100 years ago ridiculing his neighbor for using a fancy tractor with one of those engines to plow his field instead of the tried and true mule or team of horses. Sure the next few years...decade...the horse was pretty reliable, but it didn't take long before that farmer was left behind still crowing about how bad those jalopies were. I think back to teaching my great uncle the computer basics, a man with two doctorates, a world traveler, decorated officer in WW2, composer...friend to several presidents. The computer was just beyond him...technology had grown from his grasp of the age he was born in. Will we be like that when our children or grand children are running around with the newest tech? Hej sonny boy. Old folks in your great uncle's generation--and older--invented computers. I studied programming long before PCs. I've worked for companies via the Internet and never met any other employees in person. My brother and I built a mechanical computer as a school project [after the 5 foot slide rule was done]. There are sensible uses for technology, fun things to do, expensive business applications, and pie-in-the-sky geek fantasies. It makes sense to use redundant remote storage for business. It's overkill for an individual to store all personal files remotely. It's also stupid. Why? The Internet isn't everywhere, so your files are locked away in the "cloud" until you can get them. I store duplicates of important files on the Internet for when we're traveling. Most of the time I can't access them from our remote locations, so I have to carry cryptic info with me. Put your imagination to work on something more useful. Why not write some viruses? That's a fun hobby. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Death to M$; Death to Apple
I get the feeling Betty is that farmer on the side of the road 100 years ago ridiculing his neighbor for using a fancy tractor with one of those engines to plow his field instead of the tried and true mule or team of horses. Sure the next few years...decade...the horse was pretty reliable, but it didn't take long before that farmer was left behind still crowing about how bad those jalopies were. I think back to teaching my great uncle the computer basics, a man with two doctorates, a world traveler, decorated officer in WW2, composer...friend to several presidents. The computer was just beyond him...technology had grown from his grasp of the age he was born in. Will we be like that when our children or grand children are running around with the newest tech? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: > It's the stupid cloud again! No. The cloud won't obscure computers. > Ridiculous, as in worthy of ridicule, as only in geek fantasies. > > Computers are changing, but aren't going away any time soon, and neither > are Apple or MS, as long as they keep changing as technology evolves. Apple > is in a better position than MS, in that they create the hardware that's > evolving instead of MS keeping up with software competition. > > The cloud will never be able to overwhelm computers, at least in the US, > since it's not available all the time, everywhere. My local computer, Touch, > and/or smart phone are more reliable than the cloud will ever be, as long as > it's not ubiquitous. You can't integrate with the Internet if it's not there > or remains too expensive. > > CloudHAHAHAHAHAHA. George Carlin had some wonderful comments about > ephemisms like "the cloud" and the stupidity of euphemisms in general. > Cloud...DUH! Where's my free Internets??? Where's my cheap Internets? > Where's the "everywhere" Internets > > Do you trust Google with all your precious and personal data? Do you > _trust_ the Cloud? > > mike escribió: > > Somehow I don't think MS or especially Apple have anything to worry about. >> Google is going to race to the bottom with this one for a little while I >> think. Look out for bad sales on win 7 starter in the future...if there >> ever were a future for starter. >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM, tjp wrote: >> >> >>> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/chromeos-announcement.ars >>> >>> "Put differently, in more concrete and less aesthetic terms, Apple and >>> Microsoft began decades ago with "the PC," and they're currently involved >>> in >>> a slow and painful process of trying to stretch and push "the PC" out >>> towards the Internet and towards a more useful and integrated >>> relationship >>> with the cloud as a new type of server. >>> >> > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] syncing google calendar with a WM6 phone
Is there an equivalent of MS ActiveSync I can use to sync my Samsung Blackjack II WM6 phone and google calendar through my computer. I want to avoid having to go through MS Outlook. Thanks, Jeff Myers * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Death to M$; Death to Apple
It's the stupid cloud again! No. The cloud won't obscure computers. Ridiculous, as in worthy of ridicule, as only in geek fantasies. Computers are changing, but aren't going away any time soon, and neither are Apple or MS, as long as they keep changing as technology evolves. Apple is in a better position than MS, in that they create the hardware that's evolving instead of MS keeping up with software competition. The cloud will never be able to overwhelm computers, at least in the US, since it's not available all the time, everywhere. My local computer, Touch, and/or smart phone are more reliable than the cloud will ever be, as long as it's not ubiquitous. You can't integrate with the Internet if it's not there or remains too expensive. CloudHAHAHAHAHAHA. George Carlin had some wonderful comments about ephemisms like "the cloud" and the stupidity of euphemisms in general. Cloud...DUH! Where's my free Internets??? Where's my cheap Internets? Where's the "everywhere" Internets Do you trust Google with all your precious and personal data? Do you _trust_ the Cloud? mike escribió: Somehow I don't think MS or especially Apple have anything to worry about. Google is going to race to the bottom with this one for a little while I think. Look out for bad sales on win 7 starter in the future...if there ever were a future for starter. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM, tjp wrote: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/chromeos-announcement.ars "Put differently, in more concrete and less aesthetic terms, Apple and Microsoft began decades ago with "the PC," and they're currently involved in a slow and painful process of trying to stretch and push "the PC" out towards the Internet and towards a more useful and integrated relationship with the cloud as a new type of server. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Death to M$; Death to Apple
Somehow I don't think MS or especially Apple have anything to worry about. Google is going to race to the bottom with this one for a little while I think. Look out for bad sales on win 7 starter in the future...if there ever were a future for starter. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM, tjp wrote: > http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/chromeos-announcement.ars > > "Put differently, in more concrete and less aesthetic terms, Apple and > Microsoft began decades ago with "the PC," and they're currently involved in > a slow and painful process of trying to stretch and push "the PC" out > towards the Internet and towards a more useful and integrated relationship > with the cloud as a new type of server. Google, on the other hand, began > with the Internet, and it presumes the cloud in everything it does. With > Chrome OS, the company is now trying to push and stretch the Internet back > down onto "the PC" as just one of a growing range of cloud clients. Google > acknowledged that it will eventually move Chrome OS to laptops and > conventional PCs, so the Chrome OS portable is just Google's first battle in > a long, ambitious campaign to thoroughly cloudify the entire computing > experience." > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Postfix talk to Thunderbird?
On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Paul Cannon wrote: Shows another method on how to setup an account to use Movemail. Thanks, but alas... "Movemail support has been removed for OSX. The assumption appears to be that if you could configure a movemail account you can create a movemail.rdf file. See this article on ISP hooks." Hacking the profile.js is easier than creating an RDF. And I see some posts that the RDF route is actually broken. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Patent Issued For Podcasting
From Slashdot today [here we go again!]: Patent Issued For Podcasting on Friday November 20, @12:14PM from the next-a-patent-on-the-eardrum dept. ..."The EFF is reaching out for help after a company called Volomedia got the Patent Office to grant them exclusive rights to 'a method for providing episodic media' that could threaten the community of podcasters and millions of podcast listeners, http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/eff-tackles-bogus-podcasting-patent-and-we-need-yo. 'It's a ridiculously broad patent, covering something that many folks have been doing for many years,' writes Rebecca Jeschke. 'Worse, it could create a whole new layer of ongoing costs for podcasters and their listeners.' To bust this patent, EFF is looking for additional 'prior art' — evidence that the podcasting methods described in the patent were already in use (PDF) before November 19, 2003, http://w2.eff.org/patent/wanted/volomedia/EFF_volomedia_prior_art.pdf. 'In particular, we're looking for written descriptions of methods that allow a user to download pre-programmed episodic media like audio files or video files from a remote publisher, with the download occurring after the user subscribes to the episodes, and with the user continuing to automatically receive new episodes.'" http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/20/1422202/Patent-Issued-For-Podcasting * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Death to M$; Death to Apple
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/chromeos-announcement.ars "Put differently, in more concrete and less aesthetic terms, Apple and Microsoft began decades ago with "the PC," and they're currently involved in a slow and painful process of trying to stretch and push "the PC" out towards the Internet and towards a more useful and integrated relationship with the cloud as a new type of server. Google, on the other hand, began with the Internet, and it presumes the cloud in everything it does. With Chrome OS, the company is now trying to push and stretch the Internet back down onto "the PC" as just one of a growing range of cloud clients. Google acknowledged that it will eventually move Chrome OS to laptops and conventional PCs, so the Chrome OS portable is just Google's first battle in a long, ambitious campaign to thoroughly cloudify the entire computing experience." * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Will Postfix talk to Thunderbird?
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Creating_an_Account Shows another method on how to setup an account to use Movemail. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 05:27:12PM -0500, tjpa wrote: > On Nov 19, 2009, at 3:35 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: > >Postfix doesn't do POP or IMAP, just SMTP and such (AFAIK). > > I figured it out. > > sudo postfix start > sudo chmod 777 /var/mail (So that Thunderbird can write its > lock file.) > > Configure Thunderbird for POP using usern...@localhost for the > account and localhost as the incoming and outgoing servers. > > Quit Thunderbird. > > Edit the user's Thunderbird profile.js to change the > "mail.server.server2.type" from "pop3" to "movemail" > > Start Thunderbird and enjoy. > > > > Can one do this with Win7? > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 1and1.com is the best!
On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:12 PM, chrper...@aol.com wrote: After yet another disaster with my mailing list because of a problem that ez webhost had, rather than something I initiated, I took Tom's advice and signed on with 1and1.com despite the fact that my ez webhost account runs through May 2010. 1and1 has been incredibly helpful. I was on the phone doing set-up for about 2 hours with them last night. The gal who helped me (from the Philippines, no less) was polite, knowledgeable, and incredibly helpful. We uploaded all my web files to the site and set-up 2 mailing lists in that time. I'm really looking forward to working with them. Having telephone support is making my life much, much easier! I'm very grateful for having been pointed in 1and1.com's direction. It looks like they will really make my life and internet interaction easier. Thanks. I encourage you all to think of posting to the list when good things happen. We don't just want to hear from you when you have a problem. If you share your solutions with the List many of us can benefit from the good news. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] CD differences (?)
On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Brian Jones wrote: My nephew purchased an audio CD recorder a few years ago to record music his band was playing. I too thought that any CD will do, but this unit looked for some marker on the CD to indicate that it was an Audio CD before it would write to it. It would reject standard data CD's. I did not know that this was being enforced by the hardware. Bummer! It is good to know that every blank disc has an information block that is read when the disc is inserted into a burner. This is why there is a bit of a delay when a disc is inserted into a burner as the burner has to figure out what you have fed it. Different discs are made with different materials and the burner has to adjust to the requirements of the disc. It is quite amazing how this complicated setup is handled so invisibly that most of us don't even know it is going on. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Fw: [CGUYS] CD differences (?)
This is an old Thread (May 09)... But I have a bit of info that was not mentioned. My nephew purchased an audio CD recorder a few years ago to record music his band was playing. I too thought that any CD will do, but this unit looked for some marker on the CD to indicate that it was an Audio CD before it would write to it. It would reject standard data CD's. So there you have it.. the audio CD has a bit set somewhere that the Audio CD recorder can find, and as Tom says, it indicates that the 'royalties' have been paid in advance. - Brian From: "Tom Piwowar" Subject: Re: [CGUYS] CD differences (?) >So the question is 'What happens if I write an audio content to these purported "data" CDs ?" Audio content is data. The "audio" designation is for discs that include a royalty to the RIAA to cover the cost of all the music they think you will be stealing. Your friend will insist that they bought the music on the vinyl record, but the RIAA insists that all they sold was a license and that this license does not allow copying the music to a CD. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Region 2
mike escribió: Check VLC, I think it's region free. VLC, http://www.videolan.org/, works OK with our videos from Spain. Be sure that your default video player doesn't open first when you insert the DVD. Your computer may automatically reject the disk before VLC opens it. Whatever happens, DON'T change the region code in your DVD burner. You can also buy commercial DVD players that ignore region codes so you can watch your movies on the huge TV you'll be getting on Black Friday. We have a Yamakawa that's region-free; there are many more, and they're not expensive. The Yamakawa was around $30, at least 5 years ago. VLC--Yes! Enjoy the videos, with popcorn! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
