Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]
On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:52 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Useless! My thoughts exactly. Only the object of our frustration differs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Need Internet Radio Recommendations
Does anyone have experience with the new crop of internet radios? My old audiophile table radio (Yamaha YST-R7) is starting to act strange and I'm looking for a replacement that adds the latest functions. Ideally that means getting one that does internet radio and HD radio too. Some examples in the $125 to $150 range are ... http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-R227-Internet-Radio-Black/dp/B001O84M3I/ http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-930-000101-Squeezebox-Radio/dp/B002LARRDK http://www.amazon.com/Grace-Digital-Wireless-Internet-GDI-IR2000/dp/B001DL8OV2 Has anyone seen such with a proper set of speakers? The above have just one in the box. My current radio has a pair of tuned-port bass reflex cans that sound pretty good. I also have 3 auxiliary ports and all 3 are in use. I would hate to lose that. Another concern I have is that these radios seem to be tied to a web site. My current radio is 25 years old and I seriously doubt that I can depend on a website to still be around in 25 years. I worry that when that web site dies my access to internet radio would die too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Spam:Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview
Discover the Indiana Experience, a New Way to Live History: http://www.indianahistory.org/experience -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of b_s-wilk Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:19 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Spam:Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview Lastly, all digital images share the post processing characteristic of film images in darkroom. Snapshot or not. Finishing the image is something photographers have done since the 1820's. But dibble-dabble with archaic file formats in post-production is time lost. If you must have capacious and lossless files, get an FX sensor camera that captures to a universal format, such as .tif. Heavy-up your storage, and clear your calendar. (btw, those juicy iPad images for Apple? 8x10 transparency film; further example of how digital continues sold to the public in advertising via film image) Mr Turk, Ms Wilk, I'd sure like to hear you weigh in... Sorry, but I'm a big RAW fan. I can do things with RAW images that tiffs jpegs won't do. I liken RAW to Silly Putty: it lets you stretch your exposure in ways other formats can't handle. I shoot in a lot of mixed-lighting environments, exhibit spaces with dark areas spotlights, theaters...RAW gives me so much more flexibility than I had when shooting film. I agree film still has some advantages over digital, but I'm betting those go away in the next few years... david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]
t.piwowar escribió: On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:52 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Useless! My thoughts exactly. Only the object of our frustration differs. Do you have a source for data comparison of device tuners for current TVs, converters, DVD recorders, comparing them for consumers to decide which one to purchase? The report doesn't direct us to that kind of information. We need to have good data on the boxes. I can compare headphones--all that information is in the specs. I can compare cars, radios/receivers, linens, but not TV tuners. Specs for tuners tell us about product dimensions, channel range and which cables can be connected, but nothing about how well the tuner picks up local and distant stations. The report tells us in 200 pages how last year's converter boxes fared. We're still waiting for comparison data in plain English to help us choose the device with the best range, reception, reliability, etc., on a few easy to read pages. And you're frustrated about... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:41 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Do you have a source for data comparison of device tuners for current TVs, converters, DVD recorders, comparing them for consumers to decide which one to purchase? The report doesn't direct us to that kind of information. We need to have good data on the boxes. I can compare headphones--all that information is in the specs. I can compare cars, radios/receivers, linens, but not TV tuners. Specs for tuners tell us about product dimensions, channel range and which cables can be connected, but nothing about how well the tuner picks up local and distant stations. The report tells us in 200 pages how last year's converter boxes fared. We're still waiting for comparison data in plain English to help us choose the device with the best range, reception, reliability, etc., on a few easy to read pages. And you're frustrated about... Ditto. This is how it has always been in the TV world. Dunno why. No such specification information exists that allows for consumers to make comparisons. User or user-oriented test reviews are all that is available, and even most such reviews never concern themselves with the tuner component. I can find more really useful information on the box that a $50 push lawnmower comes in than I can on a $1,600 TV. Go figure. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]
Is it because this information is simply moot when it comes to actual use to the consumer because of all the variables? So many things can affect reception that are out of control of the tuner, perhaps it's pointless. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:09 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: I can find more really useful information on the box that a $50 push lawnmower comes in than I can on a $1,600 TV. Go figure. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Internet Radio Recommendations
I just got a Sangean from CCrane. Love it and works well even here at the grid we live in that is blocked from everywhere. http://www.ccrane.com/radios/wifi-radios/sangean-rcr-8wf-wifi-internet-radio.aspx Probably can find this cheaper with a bit of research. Don't know about the HD. /gayley On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:21 AM, tjp wrote: Does anyone have experience with the new crop of internet radios? My old audiophile table radio (Yamaha YST-R7) is starting to act strange and I'm looking for a replacement that adds the latest functions. Ideally that means getting one that does internet radio and HD radio too. Some examples in the $125 to $150 range are ... http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-R227-Internet-Radio-Black/dp/B001O84M3I/ http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-930-000101-Squeezebox-Radio/dp/B002LARRDK http://www.amazon.com/Grace-Digital-Wireless-Internet-GDI-IR2000/dp/B001DL8OV2 Has anyone seen such with a proper set of speakers? The above have just one in the box. My current radio has a pair of tuned-port bass reflex cans that sound pretty good. I also have 3 auxiliary ports and all 3 are in use. I would hate to lose that. Another concern I have is that these radios seem to be tied to a web site. My current radio is 25 years old and I seriously doubt that I can depend on a website to still be around in 25 years. I worry that when that web site dies my access to internet radio would die too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Ruling all but ensures net neutrality
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9175141/Dead_Hardly._Ruling_all_but_ensures_net_neutrality?source=CTWNLE_nlt_wsmgnt_2010-04-15 the passage of net neutrality is a foregone conclusion * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Is USB 3 Dead?
An interesting end to the FireWire vs. USB battle that once raged here -- all was for naught... http://blogs.computerworld.com/15932/intel_knifes_usb_3_0_baby_super_speed_to_light_peak * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:16 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Is it because this information is simply moot when it comes to actual use to the consumer because of all the variables? So many things can affect reception that are out of control of the tuner, perhaps it's pointless. Not at all. I have more than two digital television receivers, all on the same antenna, and the difference between them in ability to obtain a readable signal is very obvious. One could make the same case you have made in about FM receivers, virtually all of which readily provide buyers with tuner specifications. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is USB 3 Dead?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: An interesting end to the FireWire vs. USB battle that once raged here -- all was for naught... http://blogs.computerworld.com/15932/intel_knifes_usb_3_0_baby_super_speed_to_light_peak So, how would a device attached to such an interface be able to receive DC power by way of the fiber optic connection? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Spam:Re: [CGUYS] NEF plugin for Irfanview
Interesting. And, since you are an archivist, how do you store your raw images for future use, say, five, ten years out? Or do you simply discard those on which you have not performed post-production? Sorry, but I'm a big RAW fan. I can do things with RAW images that tiffs jpegs won't do. I liken RAW to Silly Putty: it lets you stretch your exposure in ways other formats can't handle. ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is USB 3 Dead?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:23 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Surprise! The cable also contains copper. Oh, no!! Not copper WIRE!! Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer?
A senior friend went out to a local electronics store and bought a new Dell, 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer to replace his old XP which has a failing hard drive. Unfortunately, the only program that he has that will run on the new computer is his antivirus software and AOL. Even his 6 month old HP digital camera's software won't run on it. It will end up costing more to replace all the software than the computer cost. While replacing the hard drive and transferring over his programs and data is a $250 option, it will still leave him with a old computer with a slow chip. Is there a place he can buy an XP computer with a decent amount of memory (2GB) and dual core chip for a reasonable amount of $? Is there another solution for him? It looks like the only Microsoft computer's being advertised are the Windows 7, 64 bit version. Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0325905 Microcenter often has one of a kind old boxes for sale. - Original Message - From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: [CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer? A senior friend went out to a local electronics store and bought a new Dell, 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer to replace his old XP which has a failing hard drive. Unfortunately, the only program that he has that will run on the new computer is his antivirus software and AOL. Even his 6 month old HP digital camera's software won't run on it. It will end up costing more to replace all the software than the computer cost. While replacing the hard drive and transferring over his programs and data is a $250 option, it will still leave him with a old computer with a slow chip. Is there a place he can buy an XP computer with a decent amount of memory (2GB) and dual core chip for a reasonable amount of $? Is there another solution for him? It looks like the only Microsoft computer's being advertised are the Windows 7, 64 bit version. Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer?
On 04/15/2010 07:02 PM, Richard P. wrote: A senior friend went out to a local electronics store and bought a new Dell, 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer to replace his old XP which has a failing hard drive. Unfortunately, the only program that he has that will run on the new computer is his antivirus software and AOL. Even his 6 month old HP digital camera's software won't run on it. It will end up costing more to replace all the software than the computer cost. I'm going to be honest, WinXP is really getting long in the tooth, and it's also only getting security upgrades i.e. Microsoft isn't going to upgrade it or release SP4 for it. Bluntly, you normally don't need propietary software to do things like download pictures from your camera. Win7 likely can deal with uploading or downloading pictures from most digital cameras just using Windows Explorer and a judicious choice of directories to download pictures to. Have your friend just plug in the camera and see if Win7 detects the camera. If that doesn't work, ask HP for Win7 software, incidentally if software runs on Vista, it normally works on Windows 7, and WinXP drivers can normally be pressed into service in Win7 too. I'm trying to suggest that Windows XP is a step backwards and one that like Windows 98 or WinME won't be viable in a few years. One problem for your friend most likely is that 64 bit software often isn't available for things like the six month old camera. That's the fault of the folks who sold the camera though. 64 bit Vista was out and having issues with all kinds of products, so there wasn't much excuse in not producing something that worked on a 64 bit OS. Finally I normally don't use Windows at all anymore, but I did play with Windows 7 in 32 bit mode. I even bought the 3 pack upgrade because it was obviously a big improvement over XP or Vista. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer?
On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Richard P. wrote: A senior friend went out to a local electronics store and bought a new Dell, 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer to replace his old XP which has a failing hard drive. Unfortunately, the only program that he has that will run on the new computer is his antivirus software and AOL. Even his 6 month old HP digital camera's software won't run on it. It will end up costing more to replace all the software than the computer cost. Return the computer ASAP and purchase 32-bit hardware. Then instal XP on it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer?
On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Richard P. wrote: It looks like the only Microsoft computer's being advertised are the Windows 7, 64 bit version. Hardly, get one of these for $150. It even comes with XP installed. http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Dell-Optiplex-GX270-2.4-GHz-Desktop-XP-Pro-Computer-Refurbished/3678951/product.html?cid=123620fp=Fci_src=14110944ci_sku=11744263 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Printing from iPad
A fantastic workaround that lets you print directly from your iPad. No major modifications needed. http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=194341page=1zoomIdx=1 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Where to buy XP computer?
Dell outlet...I have one... -Original Message- From: Richard P. [mailto:richs...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: Where to buy XP computer? A senior friend went out to a local electronics store and bought a new Dell, 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium computer to replace his old XP which has a failing hard drive. Unfortunately, the only program that he has that will run on the new computer is his antivirus software and AOL. Even his 6 month old HP digital camera's software won't run on it. It will end up costing more to replace all the software than the computer cost. While replacing the hard drive and transferring over his programs and data is a $250 option, it will still leave him with a old computer with a slow chip. Is there a place he can buy an XP computer with a decent amount of memory (2GB) and dual core chip for a reasonable amount of $? Is there another solution for him? It looks like the only Microsoft computer's being advertised are the Windows 7, 64 bit version. Thanks in advance, Richard P. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Need Internet Radio Recommendations
I have two of the Grace Digitals, and I love them. They do internet, Sirius and Pandora. - Original Message - From: Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Need Internet Radio Recommendations I just got a Sangean from CCrane. Love it and works well even here at the grid we live in that is blocked from everywhere. http://www.ccrane.com/radios/wifi-radios/sangean-rcr-8wf-wifi-internet-radio.aspx Probably can find this cheaper with a bit of research. Don't know about the HD. /gayley On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:21 AM, tjp wrote: Does anyone have experience with the new crop of internet radios? My old audiophile table radio (Yamaha YST-R7) is starting to act strange and I'm looking for a replacement that adds the latest functions. Ideally that means getting one that does internet radio and HD radio too. Some examples in the $125 to $150 range are ... http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-R227-Internet-Radio-Black/dp/B001O84M3I/ http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-930-000101-Squeezebox-Radio/dp/B002LARRDK http://www.amazon.com/Grace-Digital-Wireless-Internet-GDI-IR2000/dp/B001DL8OV2 Has anyone seen such with a proper set of speakers? The above have just one in the box. My current radio has a pair of tuned-port bass reflex cans that sound pretty good. I also have 3 auxiliary ports and all 3 are in use. I would hate to lose that. Another concern I have is that these radios seem to be tied to a web site. My current radio is 25 years old and I seriously doubt that I can depend on a website to still be around in 25 years. I worry that when that web site dies my access to internet radio would die too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
