Re: [CGUYS] think i've been taken: replacement laptop keys
I would imagine it would depend on the laptop. I have lost and replaced keys on my MacBook. Mason On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Judy Cosler wrote: first of all, which is the correct address for this list? the yahoo address? I think I've been taken! Is there any such thing as replacement keys for laptop keyboards? I ordered some online they are taking a verrry lng time to get here! Plus most everything I read online says no such thing; have to replace entire keyboard! Pls. confirm or not. thanks, Judy *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] laptop shuts down
Bad battery? Mason Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Judy Cosler jfcos...@gmail.com wrote: My *fully charged *ASUS laptop, not v. old, shuts down if I unplug it. what could be causing this? *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** *** ** THIS LIST HAS MOVED TO YAHOO** ** PLEASE JOIN THE DISCUSSION THERE ** ** Info at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ***
Re: [CGUYS] Guys and GPS
I use the GPS, but ignore its instructions. Mason On Sep 4, 2009, at 1:32 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshallpopoz...@earthlink.net wrote: I will be honest I use them usually on long trips so when I get off the interstate at an interchange I am not familiar with it gets me back on without getting lost. (It has been known to happen!) Back before GPS was available, were you one of those typical males who would be reluctant to consult a map out of fear of revealing a lack of complete knowledge, or worse yet, refuse to ask for directions from any of the locals when in the presence of others? Many men used to consider having to refer to any form of reference material while driving to be a sign of a lack of manhood, yet many of those same men now insist on having that GPS unit up and running all the time. What is it that changed for them? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Lied?
I have been very pleased so far. Mason On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:21 AM, t.piwowar wrote: MacWorld's extensive coverage of Snow Leopard makes me think Apple lied. This upgrade offers many significant improvements. Maybe Apple marketing isn't impressed because they want big flashy additions (which I'll probably never use). In contrast in Snow Leopard I'm seeing lots of things that will be constantly useful to me. I'm happy to get all these goodies for just $25 (Amazon's discounted price). http://www.macworld.com/article/142459/2009/08/snow_leopard.html?lsrc=top_1 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPhoto (Was: Interesting quotes about using a Mac)
Hi Constance, For your particular concern, go to the iPhoto Library file in your Pictures directory. Do a right-click(or control click if you do not have a two-button mouse) and select Show Package Contents. You can now see all of the photo files individually. It is not really a single file, it is a directory marked as a Package in the Finder. Regards, Mason On Aug 26, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Constance Warner wrote: It's true--iPhoto has a number of annoying features. Most annoying, it puts all your photos in a single folder such that individual images are not accessible EXCEPT within iPhoto. You can't just open a folder and access individual pictures. If you want to get an image or throw it away, you have to do it from within iPhoto. If there is a problem with the Big File, you have REALLY got problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast even faster?
I have the FiOS 15 up/15 down plan for $50 per month. I am showing 15.2 down and 14.4 up using the below test. Mason On May 11, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: I'm pretty sure these services are rated in megabits/sec, not megabyte/sec. Yep. See http://myspeed.visualware.com/ . That site seems to be pretty accurate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Signs of the arrival of FIOS
You could also add several batteries in parallel and extend the amount of backup time. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Apr 12, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I'ld suggest anyone worried about losing connectivity after the UPS for FIOS runs out, get or keep a 2nd line with as minimum a service as possible (look up lifesaver line on Verizon's website for an idea of what I mean). Googling in site:verizon.com lifesaver line or site:verizon.net lifesaver line turns up nothing. In the past I have tried to get info on this kind of service and found nothing. I wanted to get it for my 90 year old Mom who never uses the phone and should not be wasting her social secutity check on enriching the phone company. I think lifesaver is an urban myth disseminated by Verizon to make us think they are less evil. *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Slate website
Snapped right up here at home. I am using Verizon FiOS (yipee!).. Mason On Apr 9, 2008, at 3:58 PM, David Turk wrote: Does anyone have problems accessing Slate's website? I'm using Firefox, have no problems with other sites. Slate just seems to time out more than any other site. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Verizon DSL Service Dry Loop
Verizon offers DSL, Satellite and Fiber(FIOS). Mason On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:50 PM, Judy Cosler wrote: isn't Verizon DSL and Comcast is cable modem?? starpower is cable modem DC Cavalier wrote: I really haven't done a LOT of looking around but of the looking around I have done, I really LOVE Vonage telephone and its services and the fact I can use it anywhere I go. Right now, the $28 a month for it, and $40 a month for Verizon DSL, is what I guess I will stick with for the time being. I am a sports junkie and unfortunately, Comcast sports package is not on par wiht what DirecTV offers where I can get most all most major cities regional sports stations. Thats the major reason I choose not to subscribe to Comcast and its bundle of phone, internet, and television. But if someone can suggest a company that operates a DSL service that is NOT Comcast or Verizon I'd welcome it. Chris in DC On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone confirm this as a likely fact, or does it sound as if that is untrue or the customer service rep simply doesn't know what they were talking about? If you go to Verizon's web site and click on the Terms and Conditions link you will see in several places that the terms require Verizon voice service. So refusing to give you a better deal due to your dry line would be consistent behavior. So what leverage do you have? Is the only thing you get from Verizon the DSL? Have you checked on alternative providers (e.g. at BroadbandReports). Will any of them give you a better deal? Can you use switching to another provider as a reason Verizon should give you a price cut? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] No call list
Political speech is exempt from Do Not Call. Mason On Feb 18, 2008, at 5:41 PM, gerald wrote: the two canidates in my district, wynn and donna ? got about 2.5 million dollars for the house primary campaign, they spent most of it on deamon dialers to call residents in the area, and bad mouth the other guy. we got 8-10+ calls a day. all from 877(800) numbers and with a recorded message. my phone is listed for no call. all home phone. never got a call on either cell, or on the dedicated fax line. is political campaign calling not part of the no call? as I recall, if the calls originate from within the state, i cannot stop them. if that the case, how do i figure out if a particular 800 number is in state or out of state? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] adobe vs apple
My experience with Leopard is that just about everything is significantly faster. The finder is much faster, as is working with network volumes. If you doa lot of work with Photoshop, one of the nice features in 10 is that when you do a Save for Web to a JPEG, Photoshop keeps the copyright metadata on the image, which it stripped out in CS2 an previous versions. Mason On Dec 23, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Paula Minor wrote: . The previous version of Adobe Creative Suite does not work with the current Apple OS and Adobe says they will not update it. You all can be the judge. If that's true, another good reason NOT to upgrade to Leopard. I'm perfectly happy with Tiger and haven't seen anything offered on the new OS that I just had to have. Paula IN/USA Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride! Have a wonderful day! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe is the scammer [was: possible eBay scam: what
10 is CS3 Mason On Dec 20, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I have been using Photoshop 7 since it was released. Nothing in later versions is special enough to get me to upgrade, except that it won't run in Leopard [supposedly]. Every so often I use an older version so I can use Kai's Power Tools, too. The current version is 9. If you do not buy an upgrade to 9 before 10 ships you will forfeit your right to buy upgrades. Isn't that sweet. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] non-iPod MP3 player for Mac
Before you add the songs/videos to your iTunes library, set the press to not have iTunes organize your library. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Oct 26, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mason Miller You can make your iTunes directory use an external drive. So using an iPod with iTunes should work fine. You can also choose to have iTunes leave your media where it is, so you could keep music on one drive and video on another if you like. Hmmm, I'm a little confused. I wonder if I can have multiple paths? The last pair of drives I updated videos on, one had a directories called movies and cooking (or was that videos?). The other drive had a pair of directories, organized by date, the second directory (the one most recently created) had the videos (whatever the name is). -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly I parked my Hard Disk and now I can't find it. *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] non-iPod MP3 player for Mac
You can make your iTunes directory use an external drive. So using an iPod with iTunes should work fine. You can also choose to have iTunes leave your media where it is, so you could keep music on one drive and video on another if you like. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Oct 26, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for an MP3 player for a Mac that isn't an iPod. I know that a lot of people think iPod are the bee's knees - I have slightly different needs. I have a Mac laptop with a 120GB hard drive, currently I have ~10GB of of tunes. I have ~15GB of free space - I still haven't ripped/loaded the other 30GB of tunes. Hmmm, I haven't mentioned video, video is lots bigger. My plan is to keep most/all of the music/video on external drives (multiple copies at multiple locations) - most of the video is already there. My understanding is that iTunes wants all of the stuff for the iPod on the computer all of the time. Is that understanding correct? I mainly want to listen to music/podcasts and not watch videos. I suppose videos on trips would be nice, but that would be added benefit not a requirement. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly C code. C code run. Run, code, run ... PLEASE! *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Mac OS UG's
10.5.x updates will be free. You will have to pay again at 10.6 (at least a year or two). Mason gerald wrote: Mac 10.5.0 arrives next week. someone is selling it for $106. when they fix it 6 months from now with 10.5.1, what will be the charge,another $106, or 170?? or historically when mac went from 10.4.0 to.1.2.3.4, ect, what did they charge? I sort of recall MS sending out the UG's which they called section 8's or some such, and did not charge. from what I read on the mac/apple BB's, the anals are all confident that 10.5 will not run right, but they got to have it. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] BroadBand Speeds
It may not be as fast, but it will be more steady and reliable in most cases. You pay a lot more, but your bandwidth to the other end of the connection is guaranteed, and if it goes down you will see the telco there in hours, not days. It is a different type of service. Mason Jay Montero wrote: Oh, I see. Still I cannot understand why DSL is so much faster than T1. My company is looking at getting a T1 line (we cannot get DSL or cable) and it is going to cost many times what we used to pay for DSL in our old location yet it will be less than half as fast. on Tue, 23 Oct 2007, mike wrote: By definition a T1 is only 1.5. If it was more, it wouldn't be a T1. Mike On 10/23/07, Jay Montero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious why in this day age T1 lines max out at 1.5Mbps while DSL and cable speeds are many times faster. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]
This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with medical advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary responsibility to make the best selection for her, not for you. If I did not push her into this, she would not do it at all. I foresee a very lot of hand-holding. Better that than her spending $1200 and never using it at all. Instead of taking upon yourself the responsibility to sort out the messes why not get a computer that won't have the messes? You can then direct your efforts to the real challenge: teaching her how to use the computer. I wouldn't know how. Nor do I want to spend the necessary hours on her machine to figure it out. Considering all of this, I think she'd be safest with a cable connection behind a firewall Depends on what is more reliable in her area. I think DSL is usually more reliable. Not in this area. We're all too far from the phone co to get DSL, but we all have cable available. all desktop icons hidden except for a word processor, My Documents, Firefox and a stand-alone email icon. What does she need a word processor for? Because she likes to write. She has occasionally written articles and submitted them for publication. She has always written in longhand and had someone else type them for her. What does she need an email program for? Because she will understand that better. I don't want to have her launching a whole bunch of stuff at once. Her grown kids and grands are far away, and she will want to receive photos. I want a mail program that will detach the photos and file them, so at least I can find them. Keep it simple. Set her up with Gmail. If she must print out a letter she can type it in Gmail and print from there. I would have the computer automatically launch FireFox and make the home page Gmail. Put some icons at the bookmarks toolbar for the other things she needs. Keep it simple. That's what I plan to do. Manually launch a browser with a blank page and teach her to use bookmarks. And not confuse it with her email. With a very basic understanding of how it really works, she just might progress. By setting up magic in the beginning, she has no hope of learning. I deal with too many people like that all the time. Sue *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: ComputerGuys-L- [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived *** * * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes updates
I have confidence is the ability of the people who created these hacks to be able to overcome the patches as they come out. Mason John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On 9/21/07, Harvey Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The iPhone, iPod Touch and other new iPods are driving these updates. To update the software for any of these requires new iTunes software. One update, e.g., included ringtones for the iPhone and there's another one coming this month that will allow the iPhone to access the iTunes store wirelessly (as the iPod Touch does now). There have also been reports of minor bugs in the software for other iPods that these software releases rectify. People who have hacked their iPhones each of these updates are viewed with trepidation. They are expecting one of these to wipe out the ability to do software hacks. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Processor speed for video work
Apple uses the same Intel chips that many PC's use, so the same economies should apply in that respect. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I do not know about Apple Computers, but in the IBM realm the price decrease on Dual processors has been steep. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Setting Up a Bootable External Drive
Sometimes the problem is not with the copy of the disk, but the FireWire chipset in the external drive. I have not done a bootable backup with Retrospect, but I have with CC. Mason Harvey Simon wrote: Retrospect is supposed to copy everything, but apparently it isn't getting something right. Or it may require starting up the computer with a Retrospect CD, which isn't a good solution for when the drive totally fails. With Carbon Copy can you boot directly from the external drive, with no need to pop a CD into the computer? Any experience with SuperDuper? Are these programs doing more than making a duplicate of the computer's HD with all the right permissions and all the invisible files? -- Forwarded Message From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:54:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Setting Up a Bootable External Drive I¹ve been using Retrospect... I had thought I¹d be able to boot my computer from this drive, but when I tried it... What does it take to make a drive bootable? Need to copy all the OS files (many of them invisible) and get their permissions right. With OS X this is a very tricky thing to get right. I have always found Retrospect over-complex and unrelaible. Carbon Copy Cloner v3 is out today. Nice price: free. It is famous for doing it right. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived -- End of Forwarded Message * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Test
I do find it interesting that this message came from the future... Mason Tom Piwowar wrote: Have I been banned from the list? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Buying First MAC
I am planning to purchase an iMac for my wife. I have only owned PC's since jobs was in the garage, and have a few hardware questions. we are getting this mainly because it fits well in the allocated space, and because my wife generates and edits dvd's and says her PC is very slow in this task. 1.looks like 2 memory slots. does std DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300 ) ram fit, or is it something that is mac only? 1a. can I put a 2g in one slot and a 1g in the other and the machine will be happy and run on 3g? Yes you can use a 2 gig plus a 1 gig. On the memory, just make sure you check what the specs on the machine say and PC RAM should be the same. 2.can one change/ug the video card or add memory to it, or is it unique, and hardwired someplace weird? such as, can one remove the nvidia 128 and put in an ati 256? Whichever video you start with is the video you will end with. 3.Is the hd a standard one, and can one pull the existing and put in a larger one? Yes, it is a standard SATA drive. 4.have heard Leapord(?) will be out in oct. how realistic are apple release dates and how buggy are typical initial releases? will there be enough thrill to wait? I am running the current beta of Leopard and it is really nice, but you will have to decide whether you want to wait to save the cost of buying a copy of the OS when it is released. Mason * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] spam questions
Unless you are having mail forwarded to the ISP where you are receiving it, go ahead and report it as spam. It is the IP address of the sending machine that is generally observed. We have problems where we forward mail for certain customers to a large provider(say AOL). Any spam that gets past our filters is then forwarded. If the customer then reports it as SPAM to AOL, AOL assumes that we are the problem server as we delivered it. Mason Andy Gallant wrote: Questions on spam (assuming this message gets through): Suppose I receive a spam message with a forged but legitimate From address, and then I report that message as spam to the email service provider. Will that cause legitimate email messages from that legitimate From address to be identified also as spam? I realize this is a general and vague question, but really, is it better to report spam or just delete it? Note: The messages I'm referring to are phishing messages with fraudulent links where what you see is not what you get, for example, a href=http://[evil-domain-name]/update.html;https://[legit-domain-name]/IdentityManagement//a. I hate this. I also hate the volume of stupid spam that clogs dummy accounts I set up just to observe the situation and observe the changing techniques, but that's a different issue. BTW, I also got a spam message with an evil link exhorting me to download Tor. What can anyone tell me about Tor itself? Thanks in advance. -Andy * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] FIOS
I still had my copper intact when I had FIOS because my local telco was MCI, not Verizon. But I also have a backup generator for my home, so I would not have to run off the local battery even if I had been on Verizon for phone. The TV picutre and channel selection was far better than Comcast, and the Internet speeds were UNREAL. I had the 30 megabit down/ 6 up package. I have since moved to a nicer house where FIOS is another year or so away. I will switch back, and take their locally powered phone circuit the day it is available. Mason John DeCarlo wrote: On 8/7/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spoke to someone who got FIOS, hated it--not as promised, and was told that he couldn't go back to POTS. Since FIOS isn't even necessary for high speed broadband, and is very expensive, it appears to be a really bad deal. His phone/broadband bill is more than 3x what he had and he's stuck with it. I guess it depends on the pricing in your area and what you really need. I know over twenty people in the Northern Virginia area that got FIOS and for them it is cheaper and provides more bandwidth than their previous phone / Internet / TV combination. Not to mention that over the last year it has been significantly more reliable than cable Internet / TV, and faster than Satellite. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] FIOS
You won't want to switch from FIOS, once you have had it. Mason rlsimon wrote: Wachit...seems when Verizon puts up your fios it takes down your old standard telephone line unless you tell them to leave it there (burried in small print of contract) so if you change your mind later you hafta pay $$$ to get your old telco lines up... -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: FIOS sheesh. And google isn't a generic term for searching the net...but it's become that. Mike On 8/6/07, Michel Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FiOS is Verizon's brand for fiber-to-the-premises connectivity. FiOS is not a generic term or a technology (like DSL) but an actual brand. If Qwest has a fiber to the prem service it is NOT FiOS. From what I've heard here in the DC area FiOS delivers outstanding throughput at the speeds advertised. In other words, their 15Mb service really delivers 15Mb. -Mike L __ Michel David Lowe Purcellville, VA -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:15 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] FIOS Here in AZ qwest's best speed for FIOS is 7mbit. If their FIOS is anything like their dsl then 7mbit is more like 5. I was wondering if FIOS is better on other carriers? If you want high speed here in AZ the only choice is cable. I've talked to Qwest reps who admit they have no plans at all upgrading any service in AZ. 7 is max. Cable here is supposed to go to 25 later this year early next however. All the while, cable being cheaper. Mike On 8/6/07, Ralph Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, it is fantastic. However, I was only able to discover this after finally biting the bullet and upgrading to high-speed internet (FIOS) Otherwise, Google (and the other new-version) maps take too long to download over dial-up lines. ** ** * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone cracked
The iPhone has a sim slot right on the top. You push a tiny button and it pops out. Mason b_s-wilk wrote: The discrepancy may be for people who bought the iPhone and use it with PAYGO. That wouldn't register as a regular ATT account, since you don't have to give personal information to sign up. The phone can't be opened to switch SIM cards, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's been done successfully, either by reprogramming externally or opening the iPhone and voiding the warranty [safer than putting it in a blender]. Does it have a SIM? Betty There were discrepancies between numbers ATT posted of Iphone sales and numbers Apple posted of I phone sales. When it all boiled down it seems Apple may have included # shipped by end of quarter and ATT counted actual number sold by end of quarter and the difference was in inventory still in transit. The number was significant, about 100,000 phones, with Apple reporting 250,000 (approx) and ATT reporting less than 150,000. So you can understand the panic. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Importance of secure login page
If you view the HTML, the form is probably being sent to the server running SSL. You will see something like: form action=https://blah.blah.com; other form stuff here... /form As long as the form data is being sent via SSL, all of your form data is secure. Mason Michael S. Altus wrote: Should login pages be secured (https)? A bank has a login page that has account holders log in with their user ID and password on an unsecured (http) page. This goes to a secure site (https). A bank staff person told me that the log in page need not be secure. Is that correct? Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.® Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Importance of secure login page
The initial pages protocol(http vs. https) does not matter. It is the method with which the data is sent to the server when the user hits submit. As long as the form specifies an action that points to an address that begins with https, your data is secure. Nothing is passed in the clear when sending a request(or submitting a form) to a server via SSL(https). Mason John DeCarlo wrote: On 7/19/07, Michael S. Altus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should login pages be secured (https)? A bank has a login page that has account holders log in with their user ID and password on an unsecured (http) page. This goes to a secure site (https). A bank staff person told me that the log in page need not be secure. Is that correct? It depends on what you are protecting against. Interestingly, in practice most sites have the login page as HTTPS. The reason is that with an HTTP login page, the user ID and password is being passed in the clear from your PC to the web site. So anyone looking at network traffic can get your username and password easily. Even GMail has an HTTPS login page and then sends you to regular HTTP for doing your email. The same is true for Yahoo mail and probably many other otherwise non-protected sites. I would think a financial institution would be more careful. All the financial institutions I use have the HTTPS login page as well as every other page. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Will the iPhone Change Everything?
My phone is cooler than yours Jeff, and it helps me save/make money. I have an iPhone. It does the following for me, and my business seamlessly: 1. Make conference calls on the first attempt without embarrassing myself by losing one of the callers. 2. Send and receive SMS messages easily and quickly 3. Read my email in a manner similar to what I would expect from a desktop mail app. 4. Access websites with a real web browser, not a crippled phone browser. 5. Use Google maps for directions, traffic conditions, and locating services. 6. Go directly to voicemail that is important to me, bypassing messages that need to take a lower priority. It is not just cool, it is a productivity booster. After following you on various threads I have no choice but to lump you in with the many IT professionals who only want people to be productive up to the point where they might not need you anymore, then things become a bad idea. Mason Jeff Wright wrote: Herr Doctor, I don't doubt the coolness of the iPhone's design and functionality, I just don't get off on endless hype from marketing trolls and pack mentality journalists. If you bought one and are happy with your purchase, I'm happy for you too. With that said, if you were my financial advisor, I'd fire you. We get it. It's cool. It does neat tricks. It impresses your friends and makes your enemies jealous. It might even get you laid. We *really* do get it. Now shut the f### up about it already. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Will the iPhone Change Everything?
My family and I were at Stone Harbor, NJ this week, and my wife got hit with a putt-putt golf club. She needed stitches, or so I suspected. I opened the phone, went to maps and looked up Stone Harbor. Once that came up(seconds), I searched for Hospital. In a few seconds I had a map with the hospitals. It saved us time: a) finding out where they were and b) getting directions. The maps provided on the phone will also show traffic conditions by clicking on a little car on the bottom right-hand corner of the map. I think it is very well done and will put a lot of Garmins in the discount bins when they add GPS. Mason Tom Piwowar wrote: How much can you do with an interface limited by the physical size of a cell phone? Even if you were using voice recognition, you would need privacy (and probably a place to sit) why is this any different from laptops. And why would you say that smart phones are driving web-apps? I think Apple's calamari demo is a good case. Google maps are great, but are not available at the location where they would have the most value. I tried pre-loading maps into my Palm, but that was not particularly convenient -- printing out was far more useful. But then before leaving on a trip I would spend an hour printing maps of the route and enlargements of the tricky parts. Even then we got lost more than once and my printed maps were useless. On the road I had no access to directions on demand. The calamari demo shows maps as they ought to be. Maps can't be the only service of this type that woule be useful. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Tom, Reformat Annually?
I wouldn't reformat every year, but I would plan on reformatting for 10.5 You will have your choice of two filesystems with 10.5 - HFS+ and ZFS. There are some compelling reasons to use ZFS. Go Google ZFS and Leopard. Mason Alvin Auerbach wrote: Tom, I'm thinking ahead about Mac OS 10.5. It seems to me that many, many years ago you recommended that a computer's hard drive should be reformatted annually. Then reinstall the OS, applications, and data. Do you still recommend this? I was thinking that if I'm going to do this, then the installation of OS 10.5 might be a good time to do it. At that time my iMac G5 2GHz 2GB RAM, 400GB disk, will be 2-1/3 years old. Alvin * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
The Core Duo is 32 bit. Core 2 Duo is 64 bit. Mason John DeCarlo wrote: On 5/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/25/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have to be Intel? No, I should have said Intel Core Duo or equivalent. However I don't know what the equivalent (laptop) processor is from AMD. I also notice that they advertise a 64-bit processor. Is this a real advantage when running Windows? I don't know what can be assumed from the mere existence of a 64-bit version of Windows. AFAIK, I agree that the 64-bit OS versions are suffering from the lack of 64-bit drivers. OTOH, Intel Core Duo are 64-bit as well, so the same issues apply. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
I would be looking for a Core 2 Duo with all of the other goodies you indicated. The Core Duo will be obsoletish much sooner. Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/25/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it have to be Intel? No, I should have said Intel Core Duo or equivalent. However I don't know what the equivalent (laptop) processor is from AMD. I also notice that they advertise a 64-bit processor. Is this a real advantage when running Windows? I don't know what can be assumed from the mere existence of a 64-bit version of Windows. http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m9700/aurora-m_overview.aspx?SysCode= PC-LT-AURORA-M-9700SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT 2GB RAM, 1GB video - cyborg [neon] green, conspiracy [electric] blue, or saucer silver My concern regarding Alienware was that it was an exotic make and thus likely to be more temperamental than, say, a Lenovo. Is this a reasonable concern (when compared to other non-Apple laptops)? I must say, the Alienware looks decent. I am fairly ignorant regarding laptops because I have never wanted one for myself. Unlimited budget? http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_mALX/aurora-m_overview.aspx?SysCode=P C-LT-AURORA-M-ALXSubCode=SKU-DEFAULT The 1GB of video/graphics memory in either will do more for gaming than having more than 2 GB of RAM. If this is good for people who make and test games it should be good for the gamers. It's true that I have a bias towards having lots of RAM. I develop web applications in Java and we really really can use 4GB. That may be unusual. If there was a real advantage (in having 2GB) to a user like my son, I would expect a high-end vendor like Alienware to offer it. Too bad there's no way to test drive these things. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
I have spent over $10,000 on hardware this year, and untold time, that serves no purpose other than to scrub spam. I can tell you from experience, logs and stats that 90% of our spam is coming from infected Windows machines. I am beginning to firmly believe that Windows IS a virus. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: The point is that by using Windows you are harming me and I wish you would stop. The malware, spam, and security measures are becoming too much to bear. I should not be forced to build walls and hire guards just because you insist on running a crackhouse. Stop running defective software! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
When was the last time this happened on a Mac? Apple has already patched the hole that was documented in very short order, as they usually do. Windows on the other hand.. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 3:09 PM, mike wrote: So what do we run? Couple of weeks ago it was proven an exploit for mac os could be written in under ten hours that would send out spam or do any number of the things you complain about . Maybe we should all use a commadore 64 and keep off the net completely. That would solve the problem. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
People have been spreading this intellectual honesty for years, and still no mac exploits. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:03 PM, mike wrote: In April alone Apple released a dozen security patches that could allow arbitrary code to be run. Each one of these a possible exploit of the type that was used at CanSecWest. Right now is it 'safer' to run mac os then windows? Sure. But I think the reason why that is so is misunderstood by most mac users. The spread of this misinformation doesn't do anyone any good. It's become a knee jerk reaction from mac users when talked to about security to just recite the mantra 'we are more secure'. All I hope for is a little intellectual honesty about the topic and less kool-aid. Mike * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Neighbor Runs A Crackhouse [Was: How to Install Fre
Generally they are current within weeks. Mason On May 8, 2007, at 7:44 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: Which makes me wonder how Macs are shipped - if I go buy a new one next Sunday will it have this patch for Quicktime with it, or do I need to do an update when I get home? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops
MacBook is great. Get the one with the SuperDrive. Add: $129 for the Student/Teacher edition of Microsoft Office for the Mac. $249 for AppleCare. Particularly for a student, you will want the 3 year parts warranty. - You can find this for around $180-190 if you shop Amazon/Froogle. This ought to give her everything she needs to be a productive student. RAM is super easy to upgrade on these units, I would recommend at least 1 gig of RAM. Mason On May 3, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Robert wrote: Daughter in college, studying stage management, decides she wants a laptop. Neither she nor dad owns one, and neither have owned a Mac. Both own desktop PCs with lots of software. Dad sends daughter his minimum recommended specifications for PC laptop, using Dell as an example. Daughter's friends tell her that Dell and Toshiba laptops are crap, the only thing to have is a Mac because it will do multi-tasking, runs so much faster than a PC, and it is so much more reliable than PC. Based on these comments, she thinks that she should get a Mac. Dad has no objection and no bias for either, but worries that out- of-pocket expenses will be greater for a Mac because of the necessity of purchasing all new software. (1) Can you comment on the pro/cons of PC versus Mac laptop? (2) Since Dad has no knowledge of Mac, what are the specifications and models that daughter needs to shop for a Mac? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Comparing Mac and PC laptops
No Windows included, although if you know you want it, you can get the Apple with it preinstalled at macmall.com. Parallels will let you run any version of Windows in a Mac window. Dual booting requires XP or Vista. Mason Pete Rozanski wrote: Can't they run both a Windows OS as well as a Mac OS? They can run both. How does the licensing work? Does the price for the Mac include a fee for the Windows OS, and does it need all the MS patches? Which version of Windows does it run? PC-Pete * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] How do I compress MPG files
Paula, Michael is right. I use it for compressing DVD's, and it has great compression algorithms, but it needs to start from a DVD source. OSrry for the bum tip. Mason Michael Lewis wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.2.2 build 4404 English http://www.ctmdev.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paula -- I think Handbrake is mainly a program for work with DVDs. I admit I haven't looked at it very closely, so my initial look could be fooling me. However, you should have everything you need on your Mac if you have iMovie or have purchased Quicktime Pro. Try what I've created at the following link and see if it's helpful: http://web.mac.com/offbalance/iWeb/Off%20Balance%20Stuph/Movie% 20Compression/Movie%20Compression.html * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived