Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
By next month 10.5.1 should be out. It is being developer-tested now. I have 10.5 and am waiting, but expect to upgrade to 10.5 (then 10.5.1) by sometime next month. I am also tracking 10.5 issues on MacFixit while I wait. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- >I would plan to add 10.5, especially if you get an external drive(s) and >would like automatic backup with TimeMachine, which comes with 10.5. But don't do it this month or next! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
>I would plan to add 10.5, especially if you get an external drive(s) and >would like automatic backup with TimeMachine, which comes with 10.5. But don't do it this month or next! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
Robert, The link has the specifics right there; two USB 2.0 ports, one Firewire 400 MHz port and one Firewire 800 MHz port. You can use the faster 800 MHz Firewire port to connect an external drive (a little better than a USB drive, which you can also use). With an external 1 TB drive (or more than one), that can provide plenty of storage. You can also replace the internal 2.5 inch drive with a 320 GB drive, but that is about it for a laptop. Using a FireWire drive will leave your two USB ports open for other peripherals. That model has two memory slots and 2 GB is the maximum per slot. You can upgrade it to 4 GB total, but it will cost you, since you will be replacing the 2 GB it already has. 2 GB should be fine for all but the most memory intensive pro applications. The model as is is quite nice! I would plan to add 10.5, especially if you get an external drive(s) and would like automatic backup with TimeMachine, which comes with 10.5. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:52 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@listserv.aol.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro Thanks for your reply. The info you asked about is below. Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) wrote: > If this is not a new laptop, you will need to tell us the model before I > can tell you its limits. Apple 15.4" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile Notebook http://www.ecomelectronics.com/prodinfo.phtml?id=2105 > You are correct that you will need fewer ports > and get less internal disk capacity in a laptop. Pay attention to how > many USB ports (USB 2) and FireWire ports it has and what you plan to > connect at the same time. Laptops use 2.5 inch disk drives, not the 3.5 > inch drives in most desktops, so storage capacities are lower for > laptops. Most laptops have only two memory slots, so I like to buy the > highest capacity chips available. > > This laptop can be upgraded to Leopard for about $109 plus shipping as I > write. > > Since it has an Intel processor, upgrading to Leopard before you install > any software would be a good idea. More Windows programs will run in > Leopard with an Intel processor without emulation. You can also check > dual boot, an option in Leopard, or Parallels, a separate product, to > run Windows. The latter will let you switch back and forth; the former > is a reboot to go from Mac OS X to Windows. > > Adding an external USB or Firewire disk drive will provide the > opportunity to use Leopard's automatic backup, TimeMachine. Its > usefulness to you will depend on how convenient it is to carry the > external drive around with the laptop, and how often you will be > carrying it around. > > Apple sells extended warranty, from 90 days to three years, for > something like ten percent of purchase price. I don't know if that > covers dropping the laptop or running over it with the car, I would > guess not. Most people buy it because Apple provides great telephone > tech support, so check that out to see if would be helpful for a Mac OS > newbie. > > Thank you, > > Mark Snyder > -Original Message- > From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:01 PM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro > > Gosh, so many replies about serial ports and floppy drives on laptops. > > I'm thinking of buying a Mac PowerBook Pro (college daughter bought one > and loves it), but I am a Windows person and don't know how to select > and I've never had a laptop. The one that I am considering is a 15.4" > screen, 2.2 GHz Intel processor, 1 GB memory, sells for $2000 but > available at a discount for $1800. Questions: > > 1. What is the best software that emulates Windows on a Mac? Or, is it > > better to install Windows as a partition? I need this because of the > very many Windows applications that I have. > > 2. The discounted $1800 notebook is advertised with the OS Tiger, not > Leopard. How important is the latter OS? > > 3. How expandable is the memory and/or disk drive? I'm used to having > 1.5 TB disk space, so 120 GB internal is very small. Is 1 GB memory > adequate? > > 4. How many ports? (My desktop has 16 USB ports and 5 IEEE ports, and > all are used. Of course, I know that a laptop will not need so many.) > > 5. Should I buy "drop" insurance -- i.e., insurance for repair if I > drop it or run over it with my car? > > 6. Other advice? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE
Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
>1. What is the best software that emulates Windows on a Mac? Or, is it >better to install Windows as a partition? I need this because of the >very many Windows applications that I have. Use this as an opportunity to get better software. Running Windows on a Mac is not a good thing to do. you miss out on the greatest benefit of owning a Mac. Most programs that matter have Mac versions. Some software even has a Mac partition on the disc that you only see when you put it in a Mac. Same serial number works for either. >2. The discounted $1800 notebook is advertised with the OS Tiger, not >Leopard. How important is the latter OS? Download the Apple-up-to-Date form to get the Leopard update for $10. Don't install it until the bugs are worked out (probably January). >3. How expandable is the memory and/or disk drive? I'm used to having >1.5 TB disk space, so 120 GB internal is very small. Is 1 GB memory >adequate? This is a laptop so different metrics apply for the disk drive. The 1GB RAM may be enough, it depends on what software you will be running and the kind of work you do. >4. How many ports? (My desktop has 16 USB ports and 5 IEEE ports, and >all are used. Of course, I know that a laptop will not need so many.) This is a laptop so different metrics apply. >5. Should I buy "drop" insurance -- i.e., insurance for repair if I >drop it or run over it with my car? If you can get it. Warrenty repair used to cover more things than it does today. If the laptop travels, this is important. * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
The Mac at the web site you linked to appears to have 2G RAM. Plenty unless you it will be doing some kind of heavy graphics lifting. If I were you I would lean towards Parallels rather than have to reboot to switch. That is of course unless you are thinking of not using OS X at all. I would stick with Tiger for now and worry about Leopard in a few months. Tiger works very well! If you want to have Leopard, consider buying from Apple. Somehow I feel that the Macs from Apple are more set up than from other vendors, and the computer will come with Leopard. If you haven't had a laptop and/or will go places with it a lot, the Applecare Protection Plan is a good service. You can get very small boxes that will multiply your USB ports for you. It's not a big deal. You can daisy chain Firewire, so that's not an issue. Just thought I'd throw in my views. Gosh, so many replies about serial ports and floppy drives on laptops. I'm thinking of buying a Mac PowerBook Pro (college daughter bought one and loves it), but I am a Windows person and don't know how to select and I've never had a laptop. The one that I am considering is a 15.4" screen, 2.2 GHz Intel processor, 1 GB memory, sells for $2000 but available at a discount for $1800. Questions: 1. What is the best software that emulates Windows on a Mac? Or, is it better to install Windows as a partition? I need this because of the very many Windows applications that I have. 2. The discounted $1800 notebook is advertised with the OS Tiger, not Leopard. How important is the latter OS? 3. How expandable is the memory and/or disk drive? I'm used to having 1.5 TB disk space, so 120 GB internal is very small. Is 1 GB memory adequate? 4. How many ports? (My desktop has 16 USB ports and 5 IEEE ports, and all are used. Of course, I know that a laptop will not need so many.) 5. Should I buy "drop" insurance -- i.e., insurance for repair if I drop it or run over it with my car? 6. Other advice? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
Thanks for your reply. The info you asked about is below. Snyder, Mark (NGIT-CA) wrote: If this is not a new laptop, you will need to tell us the model before I can tell you its limits. Apple 15.4" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile Notebook http://www.ecomelectronics.com/prodinfo.phtml?id=2105 You are correct that you will need fewer ports and get less internal disk capacity in a laptop. Pay attention to how many USB ports (USB 2) and FireWire ports it has and what you plan to connect at the same time. Laptops use 2.5 inch disk drives, not the 3.5 inch drives in most desktops, so storage capacities are lower for laptops. Most laptops have only two memory slots, so I like to buy the highest capacity chips available. This laptop can be upgraded to Leopard for about $109 plus shipping as I write. Since it has an Intel processor, upgrading to Leopard before you install any software would be a good idea. More Windows programs will run in Leopard with an Intel processor without emulation. You can also check dual boot, an option in Leopard, or Parallels, a separate product, to run Windows. The latter will let you switch back and forth; the former is a reboot to go from Mac OS X to Windows. Adding an external USB or Firewire disk drive will provide the opportunity to use Leopard's automatic backup, TimeMachine. Its usefulness to you will depend on how convenient it is to carry the external drive around with the laptop, and how often you will be carrying it around. Apple sells extended warranty, from 90 days to three years, for something like ten percent of purchase price. I don't know if that covers dropping the laptop or running over it with the car, I would guess not. Most people buy it because Apple provides great telephone tech support, so check that out to see if would be helpful for a Mac OS newbie. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:01 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro Gosh, so many replies about serial ports and floppy drives on laptops. I'm thinking of buying a Mac PowerBook Pro (college daughter bought one and loves it), but I am a Windows person and don't know how to select and I've never had a laptop. The one that I am considering is a 15.4" screen, 2.2 GHz Intel processor, 1 GB memory, sells for $2000 but available at a discount for $1800. Questions: 1. What is the best software that emulates Windows on a Mac? Or, is it better to install Windows as a partition? I need this because of the very many Windows applications that I have. 2. The discounted $1800 notebook is advertised with the OS Tiger, not Leopard. How important is the latter OS? 3. How expandable is the memory and/or disk drive? I'm used to having 1.5 TB disk space, so 120 GB internal is very small. Is 1 GB memory adequate? 4. How many ports? (My desktop has 16 USB ports and 5 IEEE ports, and all are used. Of course, I know that a laptop will not need so many.) 5. Should I buy "drop" insurance -- i.e., insurance for repair if I drop it or run over it with my car? 6. Other advice? * * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
If this is not a new laptop, you will need to tell us the model before I can tell you its limits. You are correct that you will need fewer ports and get less internal disk capacity in a laptop. Pay attention to how many USB ports (USB 2) and FireWire ports it has and what you plan to connect at the same time. Laptops use 2.5 inch disk drives, not the 3.5 inch drives in most desktops, so storage capacities are lower for laptops. Most laptops have only two memory slots, so I like to buy the highest capacity chips available. This laptop can be upgraded to Leopard for about $109 plus shipping as I write. Since it has an Intel processor, upgrading to Leopard before you install any software would be a good idea. More Windows programs will run in Leopard with an Intel processor without emulation. You can also check dual boot, an option in Leopard, or Parallels, a separate product, to run Windows. The latter will let you switch back and forth; the former is a reboot to go from Mac OS X to Windows. Adding an external USB or Firewire disk drive will provide the opportunity to use Leopard's automatic backup, TimeMachine. Its usefulness to you will depend on how convenient it is to carry the external drive around with the laptop, and how often you will be carrying it around. Apple sells extended warranty, from 90 days to three years, for something like ten percent of purchase price. I don't know if that covers dropping the laptop or running over it with the car, I would guess not. Most people buy it because Apple provides great telephone tech support, so check that out to see if would be helpful for a Mac OS newbie. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Announcements and Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:01 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro Gosh, so many replies about serial ports and floppy drives on laptops. I'm thinking of buying a Mac PowerBook Pro (college daughter bought one and loves it), but I am a Windows person and don't know how to select and I've never had a laptop. The one that I am considering is a 15.4" screen, 2.2 GHz Intel processor, 1 GB memory, sells for $2000 but available at a discount for $1800. Questions: 1. What is the best software that emulates Windows on a Mac? Or, is it better to install Windows as a partition? I need this because of the very many Windows applications that I have. 2. The discounted $1800 notebook is advertised with the OS Tiger, not Leopard. How important is the latter OS? 3. How expandable is the memory and/or disk drive? I'm used to having 1.5 TB disk space, so 120 GB internal is very small. Is 1 GB memory adequate? 4. How many ports? (My desktop has 16 USB ports and 5 IEEE ports, and all are used. Of course, I know that a laptop will not need so many.) 5. Should I buy "drop" insurance -- i.e., insurance for repair if I drop it or run over it with my car? 6. Other advice? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] Buying a Mac PowerBook Pro
Gosh, so many replies about serial ports and floppy drives on laptops. I'm thinking of buying a Mac PowerBook Pro (college daughter bought one and loves it), but I am a Windows person and don't know how to select and I've never had a laptop. The one that I am considering is a 15.4" screen, 2.2 GHz Intel processor, 1 GB memory, sells for $2000 but available at a discount for $1800. Questions: 1. What is the best software that emulates Windows on a Mac? Or, is it better to install Windows as a partition? I need this because of the very many Windows applications that I have. 2. The discounted $1800 notebook is advertised with the OS Tiger, not Leopard. How important is the latter OS? 3. How expandable is the memory and/or disk drive? I'm used to having 1.5 TB disk space, so 120 GB internal is very small. Is 1 GB memory adequate? 4. How many ports? (My desktop has 16 USB ports and 5 IEEE ports, and all are used. Of course, I know that a laptop will not need so many.) 5. Should I buy "drop" insurance -- i.e., insurance for repair if I drop it or run over it with my car? 6. Other advice? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
