[CGUYS] HDDs and vibrators was: Slow Dell startup
I haven't been following this thread, but after seeing this post this morning I had to go back and look. And I just have to ask: How the heck did you guys get off in some apparently completely different direction here? Certainly neither of you is suggesting his slow boot has to do with his drive being vibrated by a fan And what's this about live and learn? What exactly are we suppose to learn - that fans can cause so much vibration in a computer that the bearings in your hard drive will be affected? The word poppycock comes to mind. Look, I'm not from Missouri, but in this case I really don't think propagating this type of myth is going to assist the list discussion at all. :) But maybe I shouldn't have said anything, and instead waited for one of you to suggest he get a SSD drive! Or are those affected by vibrators also? drives could withstand a bit of vibration. Now I know better. Live and learn. If getting to the HDD is any easier, you could look into getting some silicon washers and longer bolts and add a bit if vibration isolation to the drive. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] HDDs and vibrators was: Slow Dell startup
We should be clear, they were talking about HD's being affected by vibration...NOT vibrators. Unless you are visiting the adult boutique and putting some purple monsters inside your computer case? On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: But maybe I shouldn't have said anything, and instead waited for one of you to suggest he get a SSD drive! Or are those affected by vibrators also? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] HDDs and vibrators was: Slow Dell startup
Certainly neither of you is suggesting his slow boot has to do with his drive being vibrated by a fan No, they're two different issues. I have the slow-booting PC. Someone else has a system where the HDD seems to be affected by vibration from the fan. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] HDDs and vibrators was: Slow Dell startup
At 10:35 AM 8/22/2009, Tony B wrote: Certainly neither of you is suggesting his slow boot has to do with his drive being vibrated by a fan Not directly, but fan vibration could cause an imperfect write leading to later slow reads. If the reads are part of the boot process, then the boot process would be slowed. In my case, a particular application was very slow to load. (not a boot process load) Spinrite cleaned up the disk and cured the slow load. I'm speculating that the slow read of the executable file was due to a bad write in the past, caused by fan vibration. Fan is in the docking station enclosure of the hard drive. Mobile Rack Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] HDDs and vibrators was: Slow Dell startup
Then it's just another case of people neglecting to change the subject line. No, you will have a hard time convincing me a fan of any type could vibrate enough to cause an r/w error on a drive. But be aware - cosmic rays *can* cause errors. Not as many as 'normal' causes, but surely it happens. Anyway, that's what chkdsk is for. If my systems crash suddenly for any reason, I run a full chkdsk on all the drives afterwards. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Fred Holmes f...@his.com wrote: At 10:35 AM 8/22/2009, Tony B wrote: Certainly neither of you is suggesting his slow boot has to do with his drive being vibrated by a fan Not directly, but fan vibration could cause an imperfect write leading to later slow reads. If the reads are part of the boot process, then the boot process would be slowed. In my case, a particular application was very slow to load. (not a boot process load) Spinrite cleaned up the disk and cured the slow load. I'm speculating that the slow read of the executable file was due to a bad write in the past, caused by fan vibration. Fan is in the docking station enclosure of the hard drive. Mobile Rack * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] HDDs and vibrators was: Slow Dell startup
On Aug 22, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Tony B wrote: No, you will have a hard time convincing me a fan of any type could vibrate enough to cause an r/w error on a drive. But be aware - cosmic rays *can* cause errors. Not as many as 'normal' causes, but surely it happens. Anyway, that's what chkdsk is for. If my systems crash suddenly for any reason, I run a full chkdsk on all the drives afterwards. Worrying that fan vibration might damage the data on the drive is definitely obsessive compulsive behavior. If the vibration were that severe you would not be wanting to be in the same room with this computer. A quick solution to fan noise is to unplug the fan or stick a fork in its blades. Of course, an obsessive compulsive person would then go bonkers because the fan was not running. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
