Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
I think this is one of the rare times MS is ahead of the curve. Technical minded people are already doing this and with the availability of cheap audio/video and photography programs and hardware, people need more storage. A one system solution for the backup/storage needs of a whole house of computers is coming. Down in the basement perhaps with your FIOS box etc, somewhere in a back closet, servers will quietly hold all our data. Mike On 10/1/07, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Microsoft Home Server is supposed to do that sort of backup. That > is-was due out last month-real soon now- > <http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/whs_preview.asp> > > On 10/1/07, Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, there you go! Wonder about cost, naturally. So any chance of > this > > ever coming to the PC world, where I am currently mired? > > > > Randall > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "b_s-wilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] > > > > > > > Backup device will arrive in a few weeks - > > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html > > > > > > Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > > > >> Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back > > >> up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and > > >> automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who > > >> want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the > > >> software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see > > >> competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate > > >> not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe > > >> someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! > > > > > > > > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands > in <== > > > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<== > > > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > > > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > > > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > > > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > YourNewAddress > > > * Need more help? Send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > * List archive at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > > > * RSS at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > > > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: > > > 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM > > > > > > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L > YourNewAddress > > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > > * RSS at > www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > > > > -- > John Duncan Yoyo > ---o) > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
Microsoft Home Server is supposed to do that sort of backup. That is-was due out last month-real soon now- <http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/whs_preview.asp> On 10/1/07, Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, there you go! Wonder about cost, naturally. So any chance of this > ever coming to the PC world, where I am currently mired? > > Randall > > - Original Message - > From: "b_s-wilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:28 PM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] > > > > Backup device will arrive in a few weeks - > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html > > > > Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > >> Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back > >> up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and > >> automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who > >> want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the > >> software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see > >> competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate > >> not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe > >> someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! > > > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: > > 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM > > > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
Well, there you go! Wonder about cost, naturally. So any chance of this ever coming to the PC world, where I am currently mired? Randall - Original Message - From: "b_s-wilk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] Backup device will arrive in a few weeks - http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
Backup device will arrive in a few weeks - http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
Think the goal should be to make the experience of using a computer, at least for the average or below average user, as much like the experience of driving a new or late model, good-shape car as possible. My overall impression is that those designing hardware and software, except maybe for Apple, which I don't know much about, aren't really thinking in these terms. There is way too much complexity, fragmentation, lack of integration, break downs, glitches, things to be aware of, things to know, etc. While all of this keeps business hopping for those in the field (anyone see the 60 minutes show on Geeks and high tech a few weeks ago?) it is not a way to maximize the potential of computers, the internet and related technology, for the maximum number of people. Ultimately, this limits the overall creativity and productivity of the country, just as not having a good high-speed infrastructure does. I'm increasingly becoming convinced that the internet has amazing potential, limited only by our imagination, and by the ease of use of all the involved technology. Randall - Original Message - From: "Paul Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] Well, I understand that battery technology (in a UPS) is problematic on a variety of fronts (weight, reliability, etc) but apparently necessary (for some people) until the circuitry, power supplies and hard drives in PC's become more robust. The internect connection configuration in OSX is absolutely cool compared to Windows networking. Extremely intuitive and simple. Configuration is only part of the internet functionality, obviously. Though the bluetooth connection to a cell phone so that it can be used as reasonably speedy modem is cool, and could be part of utopian, tweak-free PC experience. User file backups are obviously a nice thing, but I would be more impressed if I didn't have to pay extra for them. Given that OSX updates can stop one dead in the water, isn't a disk image backup still a good idea? Also, are internet backups reasonable in the age of Gigabytes of user data (photos, MP3). On the same topic, is there an app that can log your software installations (and their source, if downloads) so that during recovery you get back your configuration as closely as possible or is this built into OSX? PC be sold bundled in a home network with dedicated backup servers, routers, ups (dancing girls/boys and beer would be nice too). - Original Message From: Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:43:45 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! Randall - Original Message - From: "Tom Piwowar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] >As much as I like my macmini, computers won't be completely tinker free until they come with 1)UPS 2) Internet connection 3)Automated backup. #1 is essential if you live with iffy power, (which means me even though this is southern Montgomery Co) #3 you need everywhere I guess everyone does get #2 if you include crappy dialup. 1) A few months ago I removed a client's UPS and their frequent calls for service dropped to zero. Since most people do not have "iffy" power making a UPS a standard part of a computer would not be a good move. As their UPS aged they would have more and more problems and no easy way to fix them. An external UPS can be easily removed or replaced and the majority of us who do not need a UPS won't have to fuss with one. 2) The computer automatically configures your Internet connection the first time it is turned on. It covers many options and I have never seen it do a bad job at this. If you get the dot-Mac service your get configured for lots of other goodies. What more could you want? 3) If you got the dot-Mac service, this is one of the services that came with it. Since the OS keeps your user files neatly organized in a user domain, backing up user files is greatly simplified. What's not to like? Are you perhaps running Vista on your Intel-based MacMini? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMM
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
Well, I understand that battery technology (in a UPS) is problematic on a variety of fronts (weight, reliability, etc) but apparently necessary (for some people) until the circuitry, power supplies and hard drives in PC's become more robust. The internect connection configuration in OSX is absolutely cool compared to Windows networking. Extremely intuitive and simple. Configuration is only part of the internet functionality, obviously. Though the bluetooth connection to a cell phone so that it can be used as reasonably speedy modem is cool, and could be part of utopian, tweak-free PC experience. User file backups are obviously a nice thing, but I would be more impressed if I didn't have to pay extra for them. Given that OSX updates can stop one dead in the water, isn't a disk image backup still a good idea? Also, are internet backups reasonable in the age of Gigabytes of user data (photos, MP3). On the same topic, is there an app that can log your software installations (and their source, if downloads) so that during recovery you get back your configuration as closely as possible or is this built into OSX? PC be sold bundled in a home network with dedicated backup servers, routers, ups (dancing girls/boys and beer would be nice too). - Original Message From: Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:43:45 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! Randall - Original Message - From: "Tom Piwowar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] > >As much as I like my macmini, computers won't be completely tinker free >>until they come with >>1)UPS >>2) Internet connection >>3)Automated backup. >>#1 is essential if you live with iffy power, >>(which means me even though this is southern Montgomery Co) >> #3 you need everywhere >>I guess everyone does get #2 if you include crappy dialup. > > 1) A few months ago I removed a client's UPS and their frequent calls for > service dropped to zero. Since most people do not have "iffy" power > making a UPS a standard part of a computer would not be a good move. As > their UPS aged they would have more and more problems and no easy way to > fix them. An external UPS can be easily removed or replaced and the > majority of us who do not need a UPS won't have to fuss with one. > > 2) The computer automatically configures your Internet connection the > first time it is turned on. It covers many options and I have never seen > it do a bad job at this. If you get the dot-Mac service your get > configured for lots of other goodies. What more could you want? > > 3) If you got the dot-Mac service, this is one of the services that came > with it. Since the OS keeps your user files neatly organized in a user > domain, backing up user files is greatly simplified. What's not to like? > > Are you perhaps running Vista on your Intel-based MacMini? > > > > * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== > * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== > * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name > * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST > * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L > * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress > * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ > * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml > * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: > 9/29/2007 9:46 PM > **
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not have this? Too much added cost, so may not see competitive? Those who can think beyond their nose might appreciate not having to fool with buying aftermarket devices for this. Maybe someday, when I could afford to, I'd even buy one! Randall - Original Message - From: "Tom Piwowar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] >As much as I like my macmini, computers won't be completely tinker free until they come with 1)UPS 2) Internet connection 3)Automated backup. #1 is essential if you live with iffy power, (which means me even though this is southern Montgomery Co) #3 you need everywhere I guess everyone does get #2 if you include crappy dialup. 1) A few months ago I removed a client's UPS and their frequent calls for service dropped to zero. Since most people do not have "iffy" power making a UPS a standard part of a computer would not be a good move. As their UPS aged they would have more and more problems and no easy way to fix them. An external UPS can be easily removed or replaced and the majority of us who do not need a UPS won't have to fuss with one. 2) The computer automatically configures your Internet connection the first time it is turned on. It covers many options and I have never seen it do a bad job at this. If you get the dot-Mac service your get configured for lots of other goodies. What more could you want? 3) If you got the dot-Mac service, this is one of the services that came with it. Since the OS keeps your user files neatly organized in a user domain, backing up user files is greatly simplified. What's not to like? Are you perhaps running Vista on your Intel-based MacMini? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
My appreciation of the value of the MacMini would be radically different if I had bought any of the extra services Apple tried to sell (quite aggresively too, btw). I don't advocate integrate the UPS in a PC, but the PC sales guys (like the Dell reps my in-laws encountered) will pile a dozen options and never mention a UPS. (Btw, does anyone know if home-wide generator backup systems respond quickly enough to power-downs to protect ones hard drives and electronics). Many people may have a rare need for a UPS but on the rare instance when you need it, it's value can be considerable. - Original Message From: Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 12:35:42 PM Subject: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension] >As much as I like my macmini, computers won't be completely tinker free >until they come with >1)UPS >2) Internet connection >3)Automated backup. >#1 is essential if you live with iffy power, >(which means me even though this is southern Montgomery Co) > #3 you need everywhere >I guess everyone does get #2 if you include crappy dialup. 1) A few months ago I removed a client's UPS and their frequent calls for service dropped to zero. Since most people do not have "iffy" power making a UPS a standard part of a computer would not be a good move. As their UPS aged they would have more and more problems and no easy way to fix them. An external UPS can be easily removed or replaced and the majority of us who do not need a UPS won't have to fuss with one. 2) The computer automatically configures your Internet connection the first time it is turned on. It covers many options and I have never seen it do a bad job at this. If you get the dot-Mac service your get configured for lots of other goodies. What more could you want? 3) If you got the dot-Mac service, this is one of the services that came with it. Since the OS keeps your user files neatly organized in a user domain, backing up user files is greatly simplified. What's not to like? Are you perhaps running Vista on your Intel-based MacMini? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
[CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]
>As much as I like my macmini, computers won't be completely tinker free >until they come with >1)UPS >2) Internet connection >3)Automated backup. >#1 is essential if you live with iffy power, >(which means me even though this is southern Montgomery Co) > #3 you need everywhere >I guess everyone does get #2 if you include crappy dialup. 1) A few months ago I removed a client's UPS and their frequent calls for service dropped to zero. Since most people do not have "iffy" power making a UPS a standard part of a computer would not be a good move. As their UPS aged they would have more and more problems and no easy way to fix them. An external UPS can be easily removed or replaced and the majority of us who do not need a UPS won't have to fuss with one. 2) The computer automatically configures your Internet connection the first time it is turned on. It covers many options and I have never seen it do a bad job at this. If you get the dot-Mac service your get configured for lots of other goodies. What more could you want? 3) If you got the dot-Mac service, this is one of the services that came with it. Since the OS keeps your user files neatly organized in a user domain, backing up user files is greatly simplified. What's not to like? Are you perhaps running Vista on your Intel-based MacMini? * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived
