Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: Crucial makes their own memory, which is Micron, the parent company. I've bought it for desktops, laptops and servers. Micron has a plant located in Manassas, VA. A truly HUGE operation that covers many acres, and they make these tiny little chips. How many owners on that plant since it was built a decade ago? It was one of the big name vendors originally. Maybe Toshiba. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:52 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: How many owners on that plant since it was built a decade ago? It was one of the big name vendors originally. Maybe Toshiba. I do not know the history of that operation in Manassas. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:10 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:52 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: How many owners on that plant since it was built a decade ago? It was one of the big name vendors originally. Maybe Toshiba. I do not know the history of that operation in Manassas. It's water use was a big deal in the late nineties. It was the main only reason I knew Dominion Semicondutor was there. I drive past the place every once in awhile. Micron bought it from Toshiba for 25 cents on the dollar in 2002. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-82048782.html -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
A couple of reliable sources : http://www.macsales.com http://www.ramjet.com/ http://www.macmemory.com How this works : RAM is a commodity but even commodities have gradations. When you make a million of anything there are some percentage that fit into the original specification within a very tight tolerance. Those best of the best go for a premium price and the premium vendors ( like Apple ) buy them. The next tier is not as reliable / fast / whatever and they go to the the vendors that are selling discount hardware at appropriately lower prices ( Bobs corner computer store - or maybe Dell ;-) ) . A third tier is worse yet and perhaps goes for real cheap on ebay. A last tier goes to the dumpster - if the last tier is routinely a large percentage of the total production then the manufacturer goes to the dumpster eventually. Sticking with known vendors like the ones listed above is likely to get you parts that are at or near that top tier without paying the enormous markup that Apple is applying to the very same RAM chips that you are buying from these vendors. On May 22, 2009, at 12:54 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Julie Kubal julieku...@yahoo.com Date: May 22, 2009 12:52:40 PM EDT Subject: Re: Which MacBook Pro? ah, didn't think of that. Any recommendations on where to buy? On 22 May 2009, at 12:38, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Buy it after market Much cheaper. Stewart E. Riley Casey Entertainment Sound Production 2311 Kansas Ave. Silver Spring MD www.ESPsound.com 301-608-2180 office phone 301-608-0789 fax 301-440-2923 shoe phone * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
A couple of reliable sources : http://www.macsales.com http://www.ramjet.com/ http://www.macmemory.com How this works : RAM is a commodity but even commodities have gradations. When you make a million of anything there are some percentage that fit into the original specification within a very tight tolerance. Those best of the best go for a premium price and the premium vendors ( like Apple ) buy them. The next tier is not as reliable / fast / whatever and they go to the the vendors that are selling discount hardware at appropriately lower prices ( Bobs corner computer store - or maybe Dell ;-) ) . A third tier is worse yet and perhaps goes for real cheap on ebay. A last tier goes to the dumpster - if the last tier is routinely a large percentage of the total production then the manufacturer goes to the dumpster eventually. Sticking with known vendors like the ones listed above is likely to get you parts that are at or near that top tier without paying the enormous markup that Apple is applying to the very same RAM chips that you are buying from these vendors. Crucial makes their own memory, which is Micron, the parent company. I've bought it for desktops, laptops and servers. I should have kept track of just how much I've bought from Crucial over the years, but it's probably somewhere north of 500 GB. I've only had problems once, which they exchanged with no grief. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
I should have kept track of just how much I've bought from Crucial over the years, but it's probably somewhere north of 500 GB. I've only had problems once, which they exchanged with no grief. Every time I check prices Crucial charges too much. YMMV. I usually buy from datamem.com. Good priced and good service. YMMV. Stay away from Best Buy, Walmart, Office Depot, Target, etc. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: Crucial makes their own memory, which is Micron, the parent company. I've bought it for desktops, laptops and servers. Micron has a plant located in Manassas, VA. A truly HUGE operation that covers many acres, and they make these tiny little chips. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
How this works : RAM is a commodity but even commodities have gradations best of the best go for a premium price... next tier is not as reliable...A third tier is worse yet and...A last tier goes to the dumpster I question this for a mature technology. When a particular chip-making technology is new there are certainly issues with failed and low-yield batches. As the manufacturer works out the kinks yield and quality improve -- AND PRICES DROP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Ram sources for MacBook
Except RAM is also a commodity. So like corn which has been around long enough to work out the kinks, prices fluctuate. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: How this works : RAM is a commodity but even commodities have gradations best of the best go for a premium price... next tier is not as reliable...A third tier is worse yet and...A last tier goes to the dumpster I question this for a mature technology. When a particular chip-making technology is new there are certainly issues with failed and low-yield batches. As the manufacturer works out the kinks yield and quality improve -- AND PRICES DROP. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
