Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
She is looking into one... Marcio -Original Message- >From: tjpa >Sent: Oct 27, 2009 1:32 PM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... > >On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, db wrote: >> Computers aren't simple things like bicycles that just anyone can >> tinker with / cadge together willy nilly. > >Maybe you daughter will let you use her Mac? > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:01 AM, db wrote: Computers aren't simple things like bicycles that just anyone can tinker with / cadge together willy nilly. Maybe you daughter will let you use her Mac? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
I appreciate your comment/advice. It makes good sense. But let me reassure you that I believe I know how far I can go before this jeopardizes my well being/work... Besides, trying to understand what goes wrong with humans (my work) sometimes has some things in common with computers... Both require patience and a willingness to suspend judgement while you gather more data... In the case of this computer, yes I will take in consideration your view: it may not be recoverable... Marcio -Original Message- >From: db >Sent: Oct 27, 2009 2:01 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... > >There is no end to the fixing you have set yourself up for Marcio. > >Computers aren't simple things like bicycles that just anyone can tinker >with / cadge together willy nilly. > >Your training is in a whole different realm and you will never get to >the bottom of this mess machine you have concocted. > >Don't you have a shrink you can consult about your harmful repeated >self-inflicted tech issue? >(I'm saying this with humor and good will but I am serious at the same >time...) > >db > >Marcio wrote: >> Hi folks >> >> Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), >> WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At >> one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days >> then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I >> found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, >> working... >> >> Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I >> am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come >> back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is >> receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I >> can do to makes it work... >> >> I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black >> screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 >> minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... >> >> Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... >> >> The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Marcio >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Will ask the people at the shop... After changing the CPU and erasing theboot drive plus reintalling WXP... I am where I started. They told me that they could not install a graphics board when I tried Windows Vista... So they went back to XP... and the same problem... Now I dream about the computetr at night... Marcio -Original Message- >From: Fred Holmes >Sent: Oct 27, 2009 1:13 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... > >Are all of the fans working properly? Is the heatsink properly attached (with >heat transfer grease) to the CPU? Anything blocking airflow anywhere? Have >you added goodies inside the case so that the power supply is no longer >adequate? > >Fred Holmes > >At 10:24 PM 10/26/2009, Marcio wrote: >>Hi folks >> >>Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows >>XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point >>it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said >>that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another >>Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... >> >>Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I >>am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back >>the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is >>receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I >>can do to makes it work... >> >>I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black >>screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 >>minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... >> >>Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... >> >>The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... >> >>Thanks in advance. >> >>Marcio > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
I think so but I will ask the people at the shop. -Original Message- >From: Ellen Rains Harris >Sent: Oct 27, 2009 12:56 AM >To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... > >Did you put a fan or a heat sink on the new processor? > > >- Original Message - >From: "Marcio" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:24 PM >Subject: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... > > >> Hi folks >> >> Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), >> WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At >> one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days >> then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I >> found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, >> working... >> >> Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on >> (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I >> come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The >> monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is >> black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... >> >> I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black >> screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 >> minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... >> >> Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... >> >> The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Marcio >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > >* >** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >* * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
There is no end to the fixing you have set yourself up for Marcio. Computers aren't simple things like bicycles that just anyone can tinker with / cadge together willy nilly. Your training is in a whole different realm and you will never get to the bottom of this mess machine you have concocted. Don't you have a shrink you can consult about your harmful repeated self-inflicted tech issue? (I'm saying this with humor and good will but I am serious at the same time...) db Marcio wrote: Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Are all of the fans working properly? Is the heatsink properly attached (with heat transfer grease) to the CPU? Anything blocking airflow anywhere? Have you added goodies inside the case so that the power supply is no longer adequate? Fred Holmes At 10:24 PM 10/26/2009, Marcio wrote: >Hi folks > >Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows >XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it >would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that >the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another >Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... > >Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I >am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back >the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is >receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I >can do to makes it work... > >I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black >screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 >minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... > >Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... > >The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... > >Thanks in advance. > >Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Did you put a fan or a heat sink on the new processor? - Original Message - From: "Marcio" To: Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: [CGUYS] The fun never ends... Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Actually I think it is in the install. I believe that there might be some bad video drivers on it. What seems to be happening is that the system is going into sleep mode and turning the video off and cannot turn it back on. Usually this is caused by bad or not current video drivers. One way to fix this is to turn the system to never turn the video off. Someone else might have a better explanation but I think this is a video driver issue. Stewart At 09:24 PM 10/26/2009, you wrote: Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] The fun never ends...
Hi folks Hope I am not tiring you...To be short, my computer (ASUS P4S800D-X), WIndows XP Pro, 3 Giga memory... You all know, I had troubles with it. At one point it would not boot. Went to the shop. They kept if for many days then said that the problem was that my Pentium 4 was heating too much. I found another Pentium 4. Exchanged it. They bought the computer back, working... Had to start all programs and all...(what a pain). Now...if I leave it on (I am not sure for how long before this happens, perhaps hours) when I come back the green light and the HD red light are ON, not moving. The monitor is receiving some sign because it is green...but the screen is black. Nothing I can do to makes it work... I have to put it off... If I re-start right way... it will go to a black screen and will not start. It seems that I have to wait, 15 minutes, 30 minutos (to cool off?) for it to start. It then starts OK, no problem... Where is the problem? Mobo, CPU, Memory?... The fun never ends... Back to the shop?... Thanks in advance. Marcio * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
