Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Where does a robot engender fear and aprehension? Droid is a play on google's OS name, not motorola's. An android is defined as a robotic automaton, specifically a robot that takes on human form and functionality, a la the humanoid destroyer depicted in the Terminator movie series or the metal woman in Metropolis, or those in the Will Smith movie, the title of which currently escapes me. Androids are not normally considered as warm and fuzzy robots that do good. In stories, they typically exist to wreak havoc upon the human populous. I think that type of imagery works well in the United States, particularly since we are engaged in the war without end, or so we have been told. Thus, we saw the original Droid ads drawing upon that name as well as drawing upon metal machines of destruction to sell that product. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
I guess it's different habits. I base my feelings on the books I read for years, especially Asimov, when I think about robots. And in most the commercials, they talk about getting stuff done, not much bombing going on...but I get your feeling on them, as I said they remind me of Michael Bay movies. I say Data from Star Trek, you go Hector from Saturn 3. The Maria robot was created by a mad scientist, so it's not really the robots fault how she is. I'd say Giskard is one of the more pure examples from Asimov because it could make choices beyond it's programming. And those choices were for the well being of humans it loved. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 1:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Where does a robot engender fear and aprehension? Droid is a play on google's OS name, not motorola's. An android is defined as a robotic automaton, specifically a robot that takes on human form and functionality, a la the humanoid destroyer depicted in the Terminator movie series or the metal woman in Metropolis, or those in the Will Smith movie, the title of which currently escapes me. Androids are not normally considered as warm and fuzzy robots that do good. In stories, they typically exist to wreak havoc upon the human populous. I think that type of imagery works well in the United States, particularly since we are engaged in the war without end, or so we have been told. Thus, we saw the original Droid ads drawing upon that name as well as drawing upon metal machines of destruction to sell that product. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Have you thought maybe it's just you that gets 'warmonger' out of that? Sure. It is very likely that one's political and/or philosophical bent will have an impact upon what is considered as being warlike, warmongering or militaristic, and whether or not you appreciate or even adore such. I note that the Brits do not refer to that phone over there as the Droid, as in android, an automaton with its own will, which in and of itself is generally considered to be a frightening thing that tends to engender fear and apprehension. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
On Dec 12, 2009, at 9:58 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I note that the Brits do not refer to that phone over there as the Droid, as in android, an automaton with its own will, which in and of itself is generally considered to be a frightening thing that tends to engender fear and apprehension. Exactly. Milestone vs. Droid are definitely speaking at a different market psychology. I can see BHO wanting a Milestone vs. SLP going for a Droid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtNisSeihPE Another moto android commercial, less Michael Bay'ish for those who didn't like the droid invasion. Well, that is a British ad meant for Old Europeans. Those crazy, cowardly Europeans are not the warmongers that we are in the USA. They do not have leaders who get the Nobel Peace Prize and then immediately feel the need to escalate invasions. They are inspired by things that speak directly and pertinently to the questions at hand as opposed to reacting solely to jingoistic imagery that bears little upon the actual aspects of the real focus of the product being advertised. They see little need for visions of threatening aircraft, bombs and big explosions in order to sell phones. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
Have you thought maybe it's just you that gets 'warmonger' out of that? Maybe the euros just don't like Michael Bay movies? On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:02 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtNisSeihPE Another moto android commercial, less Michael Bay'ish for those who didn't like the droid invasion. Well, that is a British ad meant for Old Europeans. Those crazy, cowardly Europeans are not the warmongers that we are in the USA. They do not have leaders who get the Nobel Peace Prize and then immediately feel the need to escalate invasions. They are inspired by things that speak directly and pertinently to the questions at hand as opposed to reacting solely to jingoistic imagery that bears little upon the actual aspects of the real focus of the product being advertised. They see little need for visions of threatening aircraft, bombs and big explosions in order to sell phones. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] moto android again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqu835nA3t0NR=1 Looks promising. I had my first close look at a Blackberry yesterday. Damn it's awful. You have to be highly motivated to put up with its cramped and cluttered interface and endless menus. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] moto android again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtNisSeihPE Another moto android commercial, less Michael Bay'ish for those who didn't like the droid invasion. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
