Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Steve at Verizon wrote: About a month ago, I asked here about internet radios, which was a new concept to me. I was helpfully pointed at a few and checked out and ordered the Roku Soundbridge R1000 for $250 (they also make an M1000 for $150, which connects to your hifi system instead of having built in speakers). Steve, I'd like to thank you for sharing your experience with the group. I had been reluctant to invest in a Soundbridge until reading your post. Promising units like this have always disappointed in the past. Your post came in time for a M1001 to make it under my Xmas Tree from Santa. I must say that setup was very straight forward and performance everything I expected. This unit does not disappoint. I am glad to here it pleases your Gran. Thanks again for your most helpful review. -- Sous le ciel tout étoilé John Settle Personal Webpage: Urban Astro Images http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejjs-cts/ * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
As I understand it, the app on the PC is a front end for programming the Roku. In fact, after I sent it to my mom, I read in the User Manual that there is a telnet interface to the Roku for command line commands. Programming the Roku for the stations directly is very easy. For example, I wanted to program public radio stations, so, using the remote and the display on the radio, I just keyed in WETA and it found the url and I set it as a preset. b_s-wilk wrote: Is the applet for the radio itself or to use on your computer? It sounds like a browser interface for the radio on the computer for setup, like there are for switches, routers, modems. It should be self-contained within the radio instead. Short-wave radios often have a big display, relative to size. My portable Kaito/Degen shortwave radio is tiny but has a display that's bigger than the iPhone or any other mobile phone or PDA. The WiFi radio could have a display like that too, with its own browser. If the WiFi radio had a touch-screen or good menu like Nokia phones and PDAs, that would make it much easier to find and save stations, and create presets of your favorites. Handheld devices are evolving quickly along some very exciting paths. Betty I think I mentioned previously that the Roku site provides a free applet you can download and which provides a web browser interface to the radio to setup and program presets. Check the link to the user manual I had in a message earlier today for screen shots. Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:15 PM 12/9/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online of course. It sure would be nice if these things had network (or other, e.g., USB) connectivity that allowed setting them up (selection of the small set of stations you really want to listen to) using a computer, with its large screen and full-size keyboard. I would think that sort of capability would be obvious. Sort of like what one does with a PDA, although I don't have a PDA, so I don't really know how they really work. Once the receiver is set up, it surely saves a whole lot of power without having a spinning hard drive or large display needed. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kinda novice are you?? It's a dead link!! ...or maybe it's only gud4 macs!! ;^) Works for me. It must be information Microsoft does not want you to have. Dude, the obvious problem is a line break. I used tinyurl to fix: http://tinyurl.com/2zgfec Good luck! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
A few thoughts on this topic... *) None of today's units seem to be able to play the newest streaming audio format AAC (successor to .mp3). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding *) Presumably these units will be worse than cell phones in an emergency. Especially since the 'broadcasters' aren't actually broadcasting at all. *) While setup at grandma's may be easy, all of us with forwarded ports (DHCP disabled) aren't going to have nearly as easy a time. How the heck am I supposed to get my 63 bit key into one of these anyway? Type carefully??? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
At 11:15 PM 12/9/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online of course. It sure would be nice if these things had network (or other, e.g., USB) connectivity that allowed setting them up (selection of the small set of stations you really want to listen to) using a computer, with its large screen and full-size keyboard. I would think that sort of capability would be obvious. Sort of like what one does with a PDA, although I don't have a PDA, so I don't really know how they really work. Once the receiver is set up, it surely saves a whole lot of power without having a spinning hard drive or large display needed. Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
I think I mentioned previously that the Roku site provides a free applet you can download and which provides a web browser interface to the radio to setup and program presets. Check the link to the user manual I had in a message earlier today for screen shots. Fred Holmes wrote: At 11:15 PM 12/9/2007, b_s-wilk wrote: Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online of course. It sure would be nice if these things had network (or other, e.g., USB) connectivity that allowed setting them up (selection of the small set of stations you really want to listen to) using a computer, with its large screen and full-size keyboard. I would think that sort of capability would be obvious. Sort of like what one does with a PDA, although I don't have a PDA, so I don't really know how they really work. Once the receiver is set up, it surely saves a whole lot of power without having a spinning hard drive or large display needed. Fred Holmes * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
While I don't use a wi-fi radio per se, I already do this with desktops and laptops throughout the house. As noted in the past, I've all but abandoned terrestrial radio, save for the occasional AM talk radio. XM, Sirius and MP3s in the car, MP3s and streaming in the house and at work. I don't miss FM radio one bit. -Original Message- Interesting story. Has anyone tried either alternative? http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech /tes t_bench/article3016102.ece With all the fuss about digital radio (DAB), it has been easy to miss the arrival of a new technology that offers even greater choice: the wi-fi radio. Technically, these excellent gadgets are not radios at all. Rather than picking up the radio-wave signals of terrestrial stations - - be they analogue or digital -- a wi-fi radio uses a broadband connection to receive audio signals from internet-based stations all over the world.,, And the sound is often better too... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
About a month ago, I asked here about internet radios, which was a new concept to me. I was helpfully pointed at a few and checked out and ordered the Roku Soundbridge R1000 for $250 (they also make an M1000 for $150, which connects to your hifi system instead of having built in speakers). This was for my 90 year old mom who had to move to assisted living in her retirement community. She loved her over-the-air classical FM stations, but could not receive them in the main building. Last visit to her, I picked up a WiFi signal in her room so contacted the techie there. They use WPA security, so I had the unit delivered to me first, set up my Linksys for WPA, and could easily configure the Roku for WPA. I also found 8 great internet radio classical stations; public radio in NY, Boston, DC, Minnesota, even a great classical station from the UK, which I entered as presets. Mailed it to her and she is thrilled with the selection. The R1000 is similar to a small Bose, but a few inches taller. It has great sound. The display is 4 lines by 80. Very easy learning how to operate with the remote. There is even a small app you can download from Roku to communicate with it from a browser window to manage the presets, and other options. Really neat! It also can receive OTA FM by attaching an antenna. And it has an SD slot, primarily as a vehicle for updating firmware (shipped unit was current), but you can load an SD with MP3 music and play that as well. Although a bit pricey, as Tom suggests, I can really see WiFi internet as the future for in home radio. And, as was just recently mentioned here, many music managers (I use iTunes) can access thousands of radio stations which stream. That was how I found the classical music stations for my mom. As was mentioned, I, also, have internet radio going, when I'm on my PC. Tom Piwowar wrote: Interesting story. Has anyone tried either alternative? http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/tes t_bench/article3016102.ece With all the fuss about digital radio (DAB), it has been easy to miss the arrival of a new technology that offers even greater choice: the wi-fi radio. Technically, these excellent gadgets are not radios at all. Rather than picking up the radio-wave signals of terrestrial stations -- be they analogue or digital -- a wi-fi radio uses a broadband connection to receive audio signals from internet-based stations all over the world.,, And the sound is often better too... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
I have a regular FM that is fairly hi-tech made by Sangean. When this subject last came up I did a little looking around at the Wi-Fi radios and discovered that Sangean is making a few that sound pretty interesting. They might be worth a look if you are interested in this. http://www.sangean.com/category.php?category_ID=12 Tom Piwowar wrote: Interesting story. Has anyone tried either alternative? http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/tes t_bench/article3016102.ece With all the fuss about digital radio (DAB), it has been easy to miss the arrival of a new technology that offers even greater choice: the wi-fi radio. Technically, these excellent gadgets are not radios at all. Rather than picking up the radio-wave signals of terrestrial stations -- be they analogue or digital -- a wi-fi radio uses a broadband connection to receive audio signals from internet-based stations all over the world.,, And the sound is often better too... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
It's new and it's not new. I've set up WiFi radio in my house, but had to do it on my own. This packaged version looks interesting for those who haven't taken the time to program it on their own. Best feature is finding all the stations on its own. Worst feature is finding stations you like out of the thousands it loads. Finding a dozen or so out of thousands of radio stations on a shortwave radio is hard enough. I'd like to see what kind of listening guide or list they provide for WiFi radio--online of course. Betty Interesting story. Has anyone tried either alternative? http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/tes t_bench/article3016102.ece With all the fuss about digital radio (DAB), it has been easy to miss the arrival of a new technology that offers even greater choice: the wi-fi radio. Technically, these excellent gadgets are not radios at all. Rather than picking up the radio-wave signals of terrestrial stations -- be they analogue or digital -- a wi-fi radio uses a broadband connection to receive audio signals from internet-based stations all over the world.,, And the sound is often better too... * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
