Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?

2007-10-12 Thread Richard P.
FYI, I tried powering up both router and modem simultaneously and they 
booted up ok. I guess the router did wait for the modem to get going 
first. Thanks for the feedback from all parties; it's always a good 
learning environment.


Richard P.

Tom Piwowar wrote:

Actually, this isn't *strictly* true. Unless there's a design flaw,
downstream devices should simply wait and keep trying. My router's often on
with my modem off (when I'm resetting the modem).



You are right. A properly designed device should keep trying so the order 
in which they are turned on should not matter. But then, too often it 
does.




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Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?

2007-10-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have asked why they do not configure those computers to go into 
'sleep' mode after a certain time of non-use has elapsed, or why they 
do not arrange for the drives to stop running when not needed. or why 
they do not hit the off button of the monitors and printers at the 
end of the day.  The only answer I have ever gotten is a shrug or a 
How do you do that?  Yikes

The IT department frowns on Mac users flaunting their facility with the 
computer. You are going to get into a lot of trouble.



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Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?

2007-10-08 Thread Paul Meyer
Checkout One Laptop Per Child 
You have to climb the protocol stack. 
 
Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org

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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?

Yes, this is interesting. I never have turned off power to the cable 
modem and separate router because (according to Cox), they require a 
sequential boot process (is this true?).

Yes, but this is just common sense. You have to turn things from the 
outside inwards. The first box connects to the internet, the next box 
connects to the first box, etc. Your computer is last.



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Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?

2007-10-08 Thread Tom Piwowar
Actually, this isn't *strictly* true. Unless there's a design flaw,
downstream devices should simply wait and keep trying. My router's often on
with my modem off (when I'm resetting the modem).

You are right. A properly designed device should keep trying so the order 
in which they are turned on should not matter. But then, too often it 
does.



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Re: [CGUYS] Power Off?

2007-10-07 Thread Richard P.
Yes, this is interesting. I never have turned off power to the cable 
modem and separate router because (according to Cox), they require a 
sequential boot process (is this true?). I do turn off the WAP when we 
are not using it, but more for security reasons than power consumption. 
I think shutting them all down is worth trying because while they don't 
consume much power individually, I'm sure cumulatively 
(nationwide/worldwide), it would make a big impact. My computer is set 
to hibernate automatically, along with the monitor.


Richard P.

Tom Piwowar wrote:
Interesting poll at 
www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071003235748182


How Often Do You Turn Off the Power to Your Internet Connection?

2/3 say Never



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