Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
Um...it can't be...so... That's ok. Thanks. I'll take care of it via the router. On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:17 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Dec 23, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote: > >> You can't. At least, not as far as I can see. I set up a test account with >> Parental Controls, and the only time limits were to complete access to the >> computer. >> > > Thanks again to David for his detailed explanation. Do you find it > frustrating that they continue to piss and moan that it can't be done? > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
On Dec 23, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote: You can't. At least, not as far as I can see. I set up a test account with Parental Controls, and the only time limits were to complete access to the computer. Thanks again to David for his detailed explanation. Do you find it frustrating that they continue to piss and moan that it can't be done? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:45 PM, mike wrote: I don't know, that's why I asked, if I can do it where is the place I input the time codes for access/no access? There's a screen for that. Its one of the tabs under Parental Controls. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
What are you talking about? I don't know, that's why I asked, if I can do it where is the place I input the time codes for access/no access? On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:17 PM, tjpa wrote: > Precisely right. I would only add that fast user switching can be used to > quickly flip between the two accounts. > > Unfortunately the pissing and moaning "you can't do it" crowd took over the > topic. > > BTW, I'm surprised that a Mac owner would be interested in such regressive > parenting methods. > > > On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:58 AM, David K Watson wrote: > >> As others have pointed out, Accounts in System Preferences has >> parental controls which allow you to limit computer time or specific >> applications, but not time for particular applications. However, your >> friend could set up two accounts and limit internet applications but >> not time on one account and limit the time but not the internet >> applications on the other account. On the full time account, he >> can also be a little more specific and block Safari and iChat while >> allowing Mail for specific addresses, for example. There is also a >> logging feature which he might find useful. >> >> This seems to me to be easier to set up than the other solutions that >> have been proposed. >> > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
Precisely right. I would only add that fast user switching can be used to quickly flip between the two accounts. Unfortunately the pissing and moaning "you can't do it" crowd took over the topic. BTW, I'm surprised that a Mac owner would be interested in such regressive parenting methods. On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:58 AM, David K Watson wrote: As others have pointed out, Accounts in System Preferences has parental controls which allow you to limit computer time or specific applications, but not time for particular applications. However, your friend could set up two accounts and limit internet applications but not time on one account and limit the time but not the internet applications on the other account. On the full time account, he can also be a little more specific and block Safari and iChat while allowing Mail for specific addresses, for example. There is also a logging feature which he might find useful. This seems to me to be easier to set up than the other solutions that have been proposed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
I've also heard a way around the application limit is instead of launching the app itself, you launch a file that in turn launces the app. Sound right or is that way off? Thanks for the feedback on this, instead of setting up two accounts, it's easier to just use the router, I can set specific times to allow internet access fairly easily. As I said If this worked at the user level, I'd use that, but the solution at the OS level seems to involve too much duct tape and jiggering. Thanks. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM, David K Watson wrote: > As others have pointed out, Accounts in System Preferences has > parental controls which allow you to limit computer time or specific > applications, but not time for particular applications. However, your > friend could set up two accounts and limit internet applications but > not time on one account and limit the time but not the internet > applications on the other account. On the full time account, he > can also be a little more specific and block Safari and iChat while > allowing Mail for specific addresses, for example. There is also a > logging feature which he might find useful. > > This seems to me to be easier to set up than the other solutions that > have been proposed. > > If his son needs to download files for use outside his open internet > interval (for school work, for example), he will need to set his downloads > folder to be either his public folder or the shared folder. > > > On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:00 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: > > > From:mike > > Subject: os x and limiting net access > > > > I've got a friend with a os x machine and he wants to limit his sons > > internet time to 30 minutes...I'm not quite sure if or how to do this on > the > > mac. He wants his son to have full access to the machine 24/7, but limit > > internet connectivity to a specified time period. Any advice > appreciated. > > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
As others have pointed out, Accounts in System Preferences has parental controls which allow you to limit computer time or specific applications, but not time for particular applications. However, your friend could set up two accounts and limit internet applications but not time on one account and limit the time but not the internet applications on the other account. On the full time account, he can also be a little more specific and block Safari and iChat while allowing Mail for specific addresses, for example. There is also a logging feature which he might find useful. This seems to me to be easier to set up than the other solutions that have been proposed. If his son needs to download files for use outside his open internet interval (for school work, for example), he will need to set his downloads folder to be either his public folder or the shared folder. On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:00 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: > From:mike > Subject: os x and limiting net access > > I've got a friend with a os x machine and he wants to limit his sons > internet time to 30 minutes...I'm not quite sure if or how to do this on the > mac. He wants his son to have full access to the machine 24/7, but limit > internet connectivity to a specified time period. Any advice appreciated. > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
Dad wanted complete no access except when specified. LIke I said I have a router that will do it, but I was hoping it could be done at the user level. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:14 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM, John A. Newitt > wrote: > > > At 8:28 AM -0700 12/23/09, mike wrote: > > > > That's what I thought, that I'd have to go to the router for such > control. > >> > > > > ...or use a parental controls application (e.g. Intego ContentBarrier). > > > > Open DNS would work for content. I found it a bit overly broad but it > depends on the kids involved. They might notice the parental controls on > their maching but DNS would take someone fairly savvy to think of. > -- > John Duncan Yoyo > ---o) > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:49 AM, John A. Newitt wrote: > At 8:28 AM -0700 12/23/09, mike wrote: > > That's what I thought, that I'd have to go to the router for such control. >> > > ...or use a parental controls application (e.g. Intego ContentBarrier). > > Open DNS would work for content. I found it a bit overly broad but it depends on the kids involved. They might notice the parental controls on their maching but DNS would take someone fairly savvy to think of. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
Easier to go thru the router, I've got one laying around with DDWRT on it. Just wanted to know if I could go through the OS. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:49 AM, John A. Newitt wrote: > At 8:28 AM -0700 12/23/09, mike wrote: > > That's what I thought, that I'd have to go to the router for such control. >> > > ...or use a parental controls application (e.g. Intego ContentBarrier). > > - John > > > > -- > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
At 8:28 AM -0700 12/23/09, mike wrote: That's what I thought, that I'd have to go to the router for such control. ...or use a parental controls application (e.g. Intego ContentBarrier). - John -- * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
That's what I thought, that I'd have to go to the router for such control. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Roger D. Parish wrote: > At 12:10 AM -0700 12/23/09, mike wrote: > > Thanks, I don't have the box in front of me ATM and I wasn't sure you >> could >> get that precise as to set a time for access to the net. >> >> > You can't. At least, not as far as I can see. I set up a test account with > Parental Controls, and the only time limits were to complete access to the > computer. > > Your friend may have to look to his router for the granularity he seeks. > Some routers have access controls built in, based, of course, on MAC > addresses. > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:30 PM, t.piwowar wrote: >> >> On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:03 PM, mike wrote: >>> >>> I've got a friend with a os x machine and he wants to limit his sons internet time to 30 minutes...I'm not quite sure if or how to do this on the mac. He wants his son to have full access to the machine 24/7, but limit internet connectivity to a specified time period. Any advice apprecia >>> Easy. Set up a managed account for the boy. >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy >>> ** >>> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >>> >>> * >>> >>> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > > -- > Roger > Lovettsville, VA > > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
At 12:10 AM -0700 12/23/09, mike wrote: Thanks, I don't have the box in front of me ATM and I wasn't sure you could get that precise as to set a time for access to the net. You can't. At least, not as far as I can see. I set up a test account with Parental Controls, and the only time limits were to complete access to the computer. Your friend may have to look to his router for the granularity he seeks. Some routers have access controls built in, based, of course, on MAC addresses. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:30 PM, t.piwowar wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:03 PM, mike wrote: I've got a friend with a os x machine and he wants to limit his sons internet time to 30 minutes...I'm not quite sure if or how to do this on the mac. He wants his son to have full access to the machine 24/7, but limit internet connectivity to a specified time period. Any advice apprecia Easy. Set up a managed account for the boy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
Thanks, I don't have the box in front of me ATM and I wasn't sure you could get that precise as to set a time for access to the net. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:30 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:03 PM, mike wrote: > >> I've got a friend with a os x machine and he wants to limit his sons >> internet time to 30 minutes...I'm not quite sure if or how to do this on >> the >> mac. He wants his son to have full access to the machine 24/7, but limit >> internet connectivity to a specified time period. Any advice apprecia >> > > Easy. Set up a managed account for the boy. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] os x and limiting net access
On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:03 PM, mike wrote: I've got a friend with a os x machine and he wants to limit his sons internet time to 30 minutes...I'm not quite sure if or how to do this on the mac. He wants his son to have full access to the machine 24/7, but limit internet connectivity to a specified time period. Any advice apprecia Easy. Set up a managed account for the boy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
