Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
On May 5, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Brian Jones wrote: I was recently installing Trend Micro's AV for a customer when an error occurred. When tried to uninstall to start over, there was no uninstall routine available. So I re-ran the install and got more errors (different from the prior time). I repeated the cycle and it continued to get worse. I have had similar problems with Notron and BitDefender. I suspect that all antiviral software has to make itself hard to remove. If they didn't the next virus that came along could easily uninstall it. The best defense is to not run defective OSs. More and more I like the idea of periodically booting into Linux from a CD and then running a virus scanner from there. BitDefender has such a disk and it is free. It creates a RAM disk and downloads the latest definitions. Then it runs against the inactive Windows drive. That means it can bypass rootkits and other defenses that a virus could have inserted into Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I have already used this approach once when someone got infected with this XP antivirus scam. They are getting worse and will literally paralyze the system from doing anything, even in safe mode, so the only option is to run the boot disk. These have all been windows XP systems. Have not run into it yet with 7. Stewart At 11:18 AM 5/6/2010, you wrote: On May 5, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Brian Jones wrote: I was recently installing Trend Micro's AV for a customer when an error occurred. When tried to uninstall to start over, there was no uninstall routine available. So I re-ran the install and got more errors (different from the prior time). I repeated the cycle and it continued to get worse. I have had similar problems with Notron and BitDefender. I suspect that all antiviral software has to make itself hard to remove. If they didn't the next virus that came along could easily uninstall it. The best defense is to not run defective OSs. More and more I like the idea of periodically booting into Linux from a CD and then running a virus scanner from there. BitDefender has such a disk and it is free. It creates a RAM disk and downloads the latest definitions. Then it runs against the inactive Windows drive. That means it can bypass rootkits and other defenses that a virus could have inserted into Windows. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
At 5:37 PM -0400 5/4/10, Mother Geek wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? I'm using Microsoft's Security Essentials on my Windows 7 machine, and AVG Free on Windows XP. -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
Decisions, decisions, decisions... McAfee Internet Security 2010 1-User SAVE $38.00 FREE BUDGET SHIPPING Buy.com price: $11.99 List price: $49.99 Trend Micro Internet Security 2010 3 User SAVE $30.00 FREE BUDGET SHIPPING Buy.com price: $19.99 List price: $49.99 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I was recently installing Trend Micro's AV for a customer when an error occurred. When tried to uninstall to start over, there was no uninstall routine available. So I re-ran the install and got more errors (different from the prior time). I repeated the cycle and it continued to get worse. When I went to their website and knowledge base, it was difficult to find the instructions for a manual uninstall, and the instructions I found did not work.. it still would not install correctly. Finally, (for times sake) I convinced the customer to use Avast Home instead. I have encountered Trend in reviews and at some business sites; the reviews were always good, the businesses did not have any issues with the protection. I don't know why I had this problem, and don't care enough to pursue it, nor to recommend it. Brian On 5/4/2010 5:37 PM, Mother Geek wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend insteadwww.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? Thank you. /gayley knight * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I like the free Comodo products. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I will check that one out. I have been using Avast Home. Stewart At 04:48 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote: I like the free Comodo products. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
I've been using Trend Micro PC-Cillin for quite a few years and it has done the job. The only problem, kind of a big one, was that they majorly updated the program a little over a year ago and uninstalling the old program (necessary before installing the new one) was very complicated. Because I was having trouble with the uninstallation and was busy with other stuff at the time, I put off completing the job, and, of course, contracted a virus necessitating (or so I thought) reinstallation of the entire OS. This will not be a problem for you, unless Trend Micro does another similar upgrade in the next couple of years. Soon we PC users will all be running Windows 7 and hopefully these security issue will be but a bad memory. -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:COMPUTERGUYS- l...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Mother Geek Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:37 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information? Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? Thank you. /gayley knight *** ** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *** ** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?
On May 4, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek wrote: Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there something else you'd recommend? There are dozens of anti-virus programs for the PC and the difference between most of them is slight. The differences are also ever changing as upgrades add or subtract features and annoyances. I was recently looking at anti-virus options for a client. I looked at both McAfee and Trend (among others) and saw very little difference between them. Technically I like Bit Defender the best, but their USA support operation is horrible. It is so bad that I won't use the product. Some products have owners who poorly maintain their software and then go in for major rewrites when sales drop too low. An example of this is Norton, whose last update made the software good again. Some people insist on only using free software, even though virus definitions are not delivered as quickly. M$ offers a free product that ain't bad. So anybody who suggests dumping one anti-virus program for another should be telling you exactly why. Their reasons may not impress you. I would not bother swapping McAfee and Trend. There just isn't enough difference to matter. If you really cared about anti-virus you would not be using a virus- prone OS. Get a Mac and stop fretting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
