Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Meyer
I just got my eeepc. High five!
It turn out my Dell E310 (a bargain basement desktop)
was my first Linux box if and only if I installed
Fedora (nothing supported the USB controller). Dell
and Red Hat were once cozy.
-Paul Meyer

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--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Constance Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Constance Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones
> To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 1:02 PM
> Well, the Eumenides are also known (in translation) as
> "The Friendly  
> Ones" and a translation of "eumenides" is,
> roughly, "the pleasant  
> ones."  So maybe we should think about that when
> talking about Mac  
> versus PC.
> 
> BTW, I use PC at work and (mostly) Mac at home.  I just got
> my first  
> Linux box, an Aesus Eeepc.  So I guess dogs, cats, and
> penguins can  
> play together.
> 
> --Constance
> 
> 
> On Jul 19, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote:
> 
> >> There's probably some kind of analogy to the
> present situation,  
> >> to  the actual topic of this thread, but I
> don't want to think  
> >> about it.
> >
> > I think you're overanalyzing this but your point
> is clear.
> >
> > Sometimes the Mac people come off as Eumenides to the
> non-Mac
> > people. That much is apparent.  But it is also true
> that the  
> > construction
> > "blessed ones" can be construed as a
> satirical or deprecating
> > reference as in "you think you are the Eumenides
> but you are actually
> > nothing more than dogshit".
> >
> > I think that nobody intended to deconstruct that to
> this level.
> >
> > I think that dogs and cats can play together.
> >
> > Good classical scholarship, by the way.  It never
> would have occurred
> > to me if you hadn't brought it up.
> >
> >
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Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Meyer
> No geeks here, just fan bois and glitterati.
And A intersect B :->

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--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Process name (null) on OS X
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> >No comments on this issue, eh? I suppose you'd have
> to be a serious OS X
> >geek to know about something like this.
> 
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[CGUYS] Safari annoyances

2008-07-20 Thread b_s-wilk
 I upgraded to Safari 3.1.x on my MacBook yesterday. It crashes every 
time I try to get contextual menus. I have Safari 3.1.2 on my G4 and it 
doesn't crash. How do I fix the version on the MacBook?


When I did a crash report, I told Apple that I was going back to Firefox 
and SeaMonkey until Safari is fixed for Intel Macs.  FWIW, I have OS X 
v.10.4.11 on both Macs, but haven't done the last firmware update on the MB.


Betty


p.s. could be worse--took all day to get the Dell we just got to find 
the network and then the Internet. The other PC can't find a boot disk 
at all.



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Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones

2008-07-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I just got my eeepc. High five!

Do we get a review?


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Re: [CGUYS] Safari annoyances

2008-07-20 Thread Jordan
If it's the actual version of Safari that is screwing up, as opposed to 
a setting that the new version might change, you could try throwing your 
new version in the trash and downloading an older version from a place 
like this:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_safari/

b_s-wilk wrote:
 I upgraded to Safari 3.1.x on my MacBook yesterday. It crashes every 
time I try to get contextual menus. I have Safari 3.1.2 on my G4 and 
it doesn't crash. How do I fix the version on the MacBook?





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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 2

2008-07-20 Thread Jeff Wright
> You will also see lots of Macs used by scientists. If you watch science
> programs like Nova or the occasional/rare news report about something
> scientific you will commonly see that the person who just made a
> scientific breakthrough did it with a Mac. Second choice is Xnix.
> 
> As I said before, people who get to choose their own computers to
> perform
> work care about will overwhelmingly choose Macs. People who use Macs
> outperform those who use Windows.

And in the most successful businesses, you will see Windows machines
overwhelmingly.  What does that prove?  Right.  Nothing.

Actually, the most productive people are those who don't get sucked into
another one of Tom's or John's silly, adolescent pissing matches, yet again.

FORD! CHEVY!  Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Meyer
There was a review of Linux/BSD based firewalls this
year on the Linux Action Show but I think the products
veered toward network scale. 

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--- On Wed, 7/9/08, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Subject: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone 
> Alarm
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> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:51 PM
> I've been looking around for a free firewall program
> that will allow the
> importation of blocklists...any suggestions appreciated,
> running vista
> 64bit.
> 
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Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones

2008-07-20 Thread Paul Meyer
I like it, it does have a small screen and keyboard.
The Xandros based interface is a little rinky-dink
so I want to try  Ubuntu (the common practice
is run that OS off a thumb drive or SD card).
I also have yet to see how it fares as as pseudo-
desktop by connecting to external monitor, keyboard,
hard drive etc. As a portable device is pretty satisfying.
(Unfortunately I bought the cheap 1.4 hour batteries).
-PJM

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--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] The blessed ones
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> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 12:27 PM
> >I just got my eeepc. High five!
> 
> Do we get a review?
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Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/ Zone Alarm

2008-07-20 Thread mike
I have a buffalo router flashed with a linux based firmware that allows for
greater flexibility.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ddwrt

Mike

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There was a review of Linux/BSD based firewalls this
> year on the Linux Action Show but I think the products
> veered toward network scale.
>
> Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org
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> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [CGUYS] Speaking of firewalls.. was Re: [CGUYS] Windows Update/
> Zone Alarm
> > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:51 PM
> > I've been looking around for a free firewall program
> > that will allow the
> > importation of blocklists...any suggestions appreciated,
> > running vista
> > 64bit.
> >
> > Mike
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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 2

2008-07-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Actually, the most productive people are those who don't get sucked into
>another one of Tom's or John's silly, adolescent pissing matches, yet again.

WFBs get so emotional as Microsoft slips into irrelevance. They would 
play ostrich while significant changes are occurring in the computer 
industry. I think it is much more useful to pay attention. This is all so 
fascinating.


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Re: [CGUYS] Macs in business...take 2

2008-07-20 Thread Jeff Wright
> WFBs get so emotional as Microsoft slips into irrelevance. They would
> play ostrich while significant changes are occurring in the computer
> industry. I think it is much more useful to pay attention. This is all
> so fascinating.

One must argue with you to be paying attention?  Oh my.  This level of
massive rationalization has never been observed in nature before.

Think different Thomas; think for yourself, not at the whim of the Apple
HypeMachine.


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