Re: [cooperation-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE80
Sara, All, I can share our experiences as IXP, but think others from ISPs, Data Centers, etc are very important. Also connect -WG has started to cosus on this. A couple of week ago within ITNOG Max Stucchi organized a virtual meeting attended by more then 150 people to share experiences but also to learn. Job Snijders had a presentation about Network operations during corona ( http://instituut.net/~job/netops_during_pandemics.pdf) and this is a good starting point. -- Luca Il giorno ven 27 mar 2020 alle ore 10:07 Marcolla, Sara Veronica < sara.marco...@europol.europa.eu> ha scritto: > Hi Luca, > > > > I think a case-study could be very useful, perhaps could be useful even > beyond this contingent time, I am reading in some IETF mailing list about > setting up guidelines for preparedness and resilience, maybe is something > the RIPE community can have an appetite for as well. I think we can learn a > lot from the Italian experience, in terms of lessons learned and > identification of potential safety measures. Wo could volunteer for this > (taking into account, obviously, the scarce resources that are currently > deployed to face the emergency)? > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > *Sara Marcolla* > > > > *Europol - *O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) > > > > Eisenhowerlaan 73, 2517 KK > > The Hague, The Netherlands > > www.europol.europa.eu > > > > > > > > *From:* cooperation-wg *On Behalf Of *Luca > Cicchelli > *Sent:* 26 March 2020 23:15 > *To:* RIPE Cooperation Working Group > *Subject:* Re: [cooperation-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE80 > > > > As Italian I follow Sara suggestion. > > There are some bottom up experiences that can be shared but think other > countries already in lockdown can do the same. > > I can do as an IXP but, if there are other Italians in the group from > ISPs, they can do on their side. > > > > -- Luca > > Il 25 mar 2020, 14:22 +0100, Marcolla, Sara Veronica < > sara.marco...@europol.europa.eu>, ha scritto: > > I second Chris' suggestions, very interesting topics and such an agenda > fills up quickly. > > One interesting topic, giving the time we are living in, could be how to > make sure policymakers and standard organisations as well as technical > communities can find a common discussion ground. We will likely see a > substantial change in our ways of living and working (I assume most of us > are actually teleworking now and this is already a change!). It may sound a > bit philosophical, but we are possibly the best placed group in the > Cooperation WG to try to find at least some pointers towards where this > impending cooperation could be oriented. > > Another perhaps interesting topic could be learning from the experience of > our Italian colleagues, who are at the forefront of this crisis and had to > deal first with a surge of issues. > > Kind regards, > > Sara Marcolla > > Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) > > Eisenhowerlaan 73, 2517 KK > The Hague, The Netherlands > www.europol.europa.eu > > > > -Original Message- > From: cooperation-wg On Behalf Of Chris > Buckridge > Sent: 24 March 2020 17:04 > To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight > Cc: RIPE Cooperation Working Group > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE80 > > Jumping in from the RIPE NCC side here… there are a number of developments > that we could report on: > > - developments in the ITU discussion (including the “new IP” proposals > that have received some attention in recent months) > - developments in EU regulation (including the upcoming review of the > Digital Services and its implications for intermediary liability - though > this may be delayed as the Commission manages its own COVID-19 adjustments > - and work with ENISA) > - broader regulatory developments, including in relation to IPv6 adoption > strategies, and updates on specific relevant national regulatory efforts, > such as continue to develop in Russia and other countries in the RIPE NCC > service. > > So while we’re certainly happy to contribute to (or substantially make up) > the agenda for a Coop session, it would be great to hear if that’s > something that working group members would find useful, and whether there > are any specific issues (including, but not limited to the ones I’ve > mentioned above) that you’d like to hear an update on. > > Hope that helps! > > Cheers > Chris > > > > On 24 Mar 2020, at 16:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight < > mich...@blacknight.com> wrote: > > Is there anything new to report? > > > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > > Blacknight Solutions > > Hosting, Colocation & Domain
[cooperation-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE80
Hi Luca, I think a case-study could be very useful, perhaps could be useful even beyond this contingent time, I am reading in some IETF mailing list about setting up guidelines for preparedness and resilience, maybe is something the RIPE community can have an appetite for as well. I think we can learn a lot from the Italian experience, in terms of lessons learned and identification of potential safety measures. Wo could volunteer for this (taking into account, obviously, the scarce resources that are currently deployed to face the emergency)? Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) Eisenhowerlaan 73, 2517 KK The Hague, The Netherlands www.europol.europa.eu<http://www.europol.europa.eu> From: cooperation-wg On Behalf Of Luca Cicchelli Sent: 26 March 2020 23:15 To: RIPE Cooperation Working Group Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE80 As Italian I follow Sara suggestion. There are some bottom up experiences that can be shared but think other countries already in lockdown can do the same. I can do as an IXP but, if there are other Italians in the group from ISPs, they can do on their side. -- Luca Il 25 mar 2020, 14:22 +0100, Marcolla, Sara Veronica mailto:sara.marco...@europol.europa.eu>>, ha scritto: I second Chris' suggestions, very interesting topics and such an agenda fills up quickly. One interesting topic, giving the time we are living in, could be how to make sure policymakers and standard organisations as well as technical communities can find a common discussion ground. We will likely see a substantial change in our ways of living and working (I assume most of us are actually teleworking now and this is already a change!). It may sound a bit philosophical, but we are possibly the best placed group in the Cooperation WG to try to find at least some pointers towards where this impending cooperation could be oriented. Another perhaps interesting topic could be learning from the experience of our Italian colleagues, who are at the forefront of this crisis and had to deal first with a surge of issues. Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) Eisenhowerlaan 73, 2517 KK The Hague, The Netherlands www.europol.europa.eu<http://www.europol.europa.eu> -Original Message- From: cooperation-wg mailto:cooperation-wg-boun...@ripe.net>> On Behalf Of Chris Buckridge Sent: 24 March 2020 17:04 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight mailto:mich...@blacknight.com>> Cc: RIPE Cooperation Working Group mailto:cooperation-wg@ripe.net>> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE80 Jumping in from the RIPE NCC side here… there are a number of developments that we could report on: - developments in the ITU discussion (including the “new IP” proposals that have received some attention in recent months) - developments in EU regulation (including the upcoming review of the Digital Services and its implications for intermediary liability - though this may be delayed as the Commission manages its own COVID-19 adjustments - and work with ENISA) - broader regulatory developments, including in relation to IPv6 adoption strategies, and updates on specific relevant national regulatory efforts, such as continue to develop in Russia and other countries in the RIPE NCC service. So while we’re certainly happy to contribute to (or substantially make up) the agenda for a Coop session, it would be great to hear if that’s something that working group members would find useful, and whether there are any specific issues (including, but not limited to the ones I’ve mentioned above) that you’d like to hear an update on. Hope that helps! Cheers Chris On 24 Mar 2020, at 16:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight mailto:mich...@blacknight.com>> wrote: Is there anything new to report? -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com https://blacknight.blog / http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 --- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow, R93 X265 ,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 24/03/2020, 15:30, "cooperation-wg on behalf of Johan Helsingius" mailto:cooperation-wg-boun...@ripe.net%20on%20behalf%20of%20j...@julf.com>> wrote: Dear Cooperation WG members, I hope you are all managing to stay safe and healthy! As I am sure you have seen, RIPE80 will be a virtual meeting of some sort. The WG chairs are having a discussion about this on tomorrow (Wednesday 25 March) and Monday (30 March). So far our thinking is to just do a very quick RIPE NCC update for the Co-op WG, but not have the traditional full session. What are your views? Julf & Achilleas *** DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipi
Re: [cooperation-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE80
As Italian I follow Sara suggestion. There are some bottom up experiences that can be shared but think other countries already in lockdown can do the same. I can do as an IXP but, if there are other Italians in the group from ISPs, they can do on their side. -- Luca Il 25 mar 2020, 14:22 +0100, Marcolla, Sara Veronica , ha scritto: > I second Chris' suggestions, very interesting topics and such an agenda fills > up quickly. > > One interesting topic, giving the time we are living in, could be how to make > sure policymakers and standard organisations as well as technical communities > can find a common discussion ground. We will likely see a substantial change > in our ways of living and working (I assume most of us are actually > teleworking now and this is already a change!). It may sound a bit > philosophical, but we are possibly the best placed group in the Cooperation > WG to try to find at least some pointers towards where this impending > cooperation could be oriented. > > Another perhaps interesting topic could be learning from the experience of > our Italian colleagues, who are at the forefront of this crisis and had to > deal first with a surge of issues. > > Kind regards, > > Sara Marcolla > > Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) > > Eisenhowerlaan 73, 2517 KK > The Hague, The Netherlands > www.europol.europa.eu > > > > -Original Message- > From: cooperation-wg On Behalf Of Chris > Buckridge > Sent: 24 March 2020 17:04 > To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight > Cc: RIPE Cooperation Working Group > Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE80 > > Jumping in from the RIPE NCC side here… there are a number of developments > that we could report on: > > - developments in the ITU discussion (including the “new IP” proposals that > have received some attention in recent months) > - developments in EU regulation (including the upcoming review of the Digital > Services and its implications for intermediary liability - though this may be > delayed as the Commission manages its own COVID-19 adjustments - and work > with ENISA) > - broader regulatory developments, including in relation to IPv6 adoption > strategies, and updates on specific relevant national regulatory efforts, > such as continue to develop in Russia and other countries in the RIPE NCC > service. > > So while we’re certainly happy to contribute to (or substantially make up) > the agenda for a Coop session, it would be great to hear if that’s something > that working group members would find useful, and whether there are any > specific issues (including, but not limited to the ones I’ve mentioned above) > that you’d like to hear an update on. > > Hope that helps! > > Cheers > Chris > > > > On 24 Mar 2020, at 16:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight > > wrote: > > > > Is there anything new to report? > > > > > > > > -- > > Mr Michele Neylon > > > > Blacknight Solutions > > > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > > > https://www.blacknight.com > > https://blacknight.blog / > > > > http://ceo.hosting/ > > > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > > > --- > > > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > > > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow, R93 X265 > > ,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > > > On 24/03/2020, 15:30, "cooperation-wg on behalf of Johan Helsingius" > > wrote: > > > > Dear Cooperation WG members, > > > > I hope you are all managing to stay safe and healthy! > > > > As I am sure you have seen, RIPE80 will be a virtual meeting of some > > sort. The WG chairs are having a discussion about this on tomorrow > > (Wednesday 25 March) and Monday (30 March). > > > > So far our thinking is to just do a very quick RIPE NCC update for the > > Co-op WG, but not have the traditional full session. > > > > What are your views? > > > > Julf & Achilleas > > > > > > > *** > > DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the > named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, > copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely > upon the information contained in it. > Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant > e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by > Europol unless otherwise indicated. > > ***
[cooperation-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE80
I second Chris' suggestions, very interesting topics and such an agenda fills up quickly. One interesting topic, giving the time we are living in, could be how to make sure policymakers and standard organisations as well as technical communities can find a common discussion ground. We will likely see a substantial change in our ways of living and working (I assume most of us are actually teleworking now and this is already a change!). It may sound a bit philosophical, but we are possibly the best placed group in the Cooperation WG to try to find at least some pointers towards where this impending cooperation could be oriented. Another perhaps interesting topic could be learning from the experience of our Italian colleagues, who are at the forefront of this crisis and had to deal first with a surge of issues. Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) Eisenhowerlaan 73, 2517 KK The Hague, The Netherlands www.europol.europa.eu -Original Message- From: cooperation-wg On Behalf Of Chris Buckridge Sent: 24 March 2020 17:04 To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight Cc: RIPE Cooperation Working Group Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] RIPE80 Jumping in from the RIPE NCC side here… there are a number of developments that we could report on: - developments in the ITU discussion (including the “new IP” proposals that have received some attention in recent months) - developments in EU regulation (including the upcoming review of the Digital Services and its implications for intermediary liability - though this may be delayed as the Commission manages its own COVID-19 adjustments - and work with ENISA) - broader regulatory developments, including in relation to IPv6 adoption strategies, and updates on specific relevant national regulatory efforts, such as continue to develop in Russia and other countries in the RIPE NCC service. So while we’re certainly happy to contribute to (or substantially make up) the agenda for a Coop session, it would be great to hear if that’s something that working group members would find useful, and whether there are any specific issues (including, but not limited to the ones I’ve mentioned above) that you’d like to hear an update on. Hope that helps! Cheers Chris > On 24 Mar 2020, at 16:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight > wrote: > > Is there anything new to report? > > > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > > Blacknight Solutions > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > https://www.blacknight.com > https://blacknight.blog / > > http://ceo.hosting/ > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > --- > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow, R93 X265 > ,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > On 24/03/2020, 15:30, "cooperation-wg on behalf of Johan Helsingius" > wrote: > >Dear Cooperation WG members, > >I hope you are all managing to stay safe and healthy! > >As I am sure you have seen, RIPE80 will be a virtual meeting of some >sort. The WG chairs are having a discussion about this on tomorrow >(Wednesday 25 March) and Monday (30 March). > >So far our thinking is to just do a very quick RIPE NCC update for the >Co-op WG, but not have the traditional full session. > >What are your views? > > Julf & Achilleas > > *** DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. ***
