Re: [COOT] Coot 0.5 and colours

2008-09-25 Thread Johan P. Turkenburg
FWIW: If you have an 'old' pdb file, just run it through pdbset with no 
keywords (other than 'END'), and the 'element column' will be added for you.


Johan

Paul Emsley wrote:
I think Björn means that previous versions of Coot could read archaic 
(version 2.3) pdb files and infer the element from the atom name.  Now, 
in 0.5 that behaviour has gone. (Yes, the element is used for colo[u]ring).


There was a discussion about this (in an mmdb/CCP4 context) on CCP4-dev 
recently.


Swings and roundabouts - or the price of progress, perhaps.  Coot now 
reads PDB version 3.0/3.1 PDB files - we gain the ability to read 
modern/"proper" files from Molprobity and PHENIX but lose the ability to 
read archaic files (such as from (older?) versions of SOLVE/RESOLVE (I'm 
just guessing from what I have been told).


To answer your question then, there is no way in 0.5 to turn back to the 
old behaviour.  It might be possible in new versions to enable this, but 
currently I am against the idea.


Paul.


Steven Sheriff wrote:

  Bjorn:

First I presume you mean element field (or column) rather than card.  
Second, at least since COOT 0.3, which is when I started using COOT,  
it has used the element field to colo[u]r atoms, so this is not new 
behavio[u]r.


Steven

Björn Kauppi wrote:
Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb 
file for proper atom colouring? 

 >> Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour?




Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb 
file for proper atom colouring? Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour ?


--Björn







Re: [COOT] Coot 0.5 and colours

2008-09-25 Thread Debreczeni, Judit
> 
> To answer your question then, there is no way in 0.5 to turn 
> back to the 
> old behaviour.  It might be possible in new versions to 
> enable this, but 
> currently I am against the idea.
> 

Running the file through pdbset solves the missing element identifier problem 
-- not elegant, but quick and easy.

Running the remediator script from the Richardson lab is a good solution too 
for other pdb version related issues (e.g. when 0.5 coot draws bonds between 
vicinal H atoms with old-style names):
http://kinemage.biochem.duke.edu/software/remediator.php

Another remark on colours in 0.5: redhat8 (non-pythonic) binaries on RHEL4 seem 
to have lost colours -- the model/fit/refine window, scripting window etc are 
all grey.

JED


Re: [COOT] Coot 0.5 and colours

2008-09-25 Thread Paul Emsley
I think Björn means that previous versions of Coot could read archaic 
(version 2.3) pdb files and infer the element from the atom name.  Now, 
in 0.5 that behaviour has gone. (Yes, the element is used for colo[u]ring).


There was a discussion about this (in an mmdb/CCP4 context) on CCP4-dev 
recently.


Swings and roundabouts - or the price of progress, perhaps.  Coot now 
reads PDB version 3.0/3.1 PDB files - we gain the ability to read 
modern/"proper" files from Molprobity and PHENIX but lose the ability to 
read archaic files (such as from (older?) versions of SOLVE/RESOLVE (I'm 
just guessing from what I have been told).


To answer your question then, there is no way in 0.5 to turn back to the 
old behaviour.  It might be possible in new versions to enable this, but 
currently I am against the idea.


Paul.


Steven Sheriff wrote:

  Bjorn:

First I presume you mean element field (or column) rather than card.  
Second, at least since COOT 0.3, which is when I started using COOT,  it 
has used the element field to colo[u]r atoms, so this is not new 
behavio[u]r.


Steven

Björn Kauppi wrote:
Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb file for proper atom colouring? 

>> Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour?




Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb 
file for proper atom colouring? Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour ?


--Björn



Re: [COOT] Coot 0.5 and colours

2008-09-25 Thread Steven Sheriff

Bjorn:

First I presume you mean element field (or column) rather than card.  
Second, at least since COOT 0.3, which is when I started using COOT,  it 
has used the element field to colo[u]r atoms, so this is not new 
behavio[u]r.


Steven

Björn Kauppi wrote:


Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb file for 
proper atom colouring? Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour?


--Björn

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Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb 
file for proper atom colouring? Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour?


--Björn



[COOT] Coot 0.5 and colours

2008-09-25 Thread Björn Kauppi
Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb file for 
proper atom colouring? Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour?


--Björn

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Why is coot 0.5 relying on the element card at the right end of a pdb file for proper atom colouring? Can one turn back the 0.4.1 behaviour?



--Björn