[coreboot] Adding support for a system near you

2010-01-14 Thread j...@settoplinux.org
Could we put Peter's great presentation on the Wiki somewhere?

http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/events/3661.en.html

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Re: [coreboot] When should we retire newconfig?

2010-01-11 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM Myles Watson myle...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
  -Original Message-
  Am 09.01.2010 13:29, schrieb j...@settoplinux.org:
   Yes you can add Thomson IP1000 and RCA RM4100 to the list. They build
  fine with
   Kconfig.
 Have you boot tested them yet?
 
I tried them about a month ago (begining of December) and they were booting fine
with filo. Unless something drastic has changed since then???


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Re: [coreboot] Future coreboot phases?

2010-01-11 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 10, 2010 at 7:31 AM ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:

 great idea, we need it. I think it ought to be a .tex file. But this
 is a good start, needs to be in svn
 
yes and a wiki page please??


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Re: [coreboot] Future coreboot phases?

2010-01-11 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM Patrick Georgi patr...@georgi-clan.de wrote:

 Am 11.01.2010 14:42, schrieb Peter Stuge:
  I don't think svn or wiki matters. .tex is nice because you can
  easily make .pdf and print. Ron has inspired me to use Lyx. :)
    
 markdown can be transformed to tex for those that want it (and thus to
 pdf), but it's still editable with a simple text editor (unlike lyx
 files, or tex files of reasonable complexity). Lyx for windows is
 basically non-existant, for example.
  I think it's more important to save it than to have the righttm
  format. I think a wiki page would be fine.
    
 Right, and as said, one or the other please.
 So wiki it is?
 
My vote is for wiki...


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Re: [coreboot] Test : printing current time in serial debug

2010-01-11 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 11, 2010 at 2:24 PM Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:

 conged...@voila.fr wrote:
  I want to display the current date and time inside functions like
  add_mainboard_resources, suspend_resume or to find the elapsed time
  between the end of coreboot and the end of the payload for example.
 
 I suggest to do this is by passive measurement outside the running
 code, e.g. by timestamping messages on the serial port or by timing
 edges or data on a signal or bus which is accessible throughout the
 execution of coreboot and the rest of the system.
 
 Kevin O'Connor has written a script for serial port timestamping
 which is available in the SeaBIOS repository. It also does accounting
 for the serial port output overhead in coreboot, which is nice.
 
 
  I search how to get the current time from protected mode in
  coreboot. Since there is no library, I think the only way is to
  call real mode int 1ah from protected mode, but I can't find any
  example. Is it the only way ?
 
 There are no BIOS interrupt services available in coreboot. If you
 need them, you can use coreboot with a SeaBIOS payload, but it will
 not help during execution of coreboot itself.
 
 
  If someone can help me or gives me the source to implement this
  feature.
 
 Basically you have to rely on what the hardware provides you. There
 are several different timer peripherals in a modern x86 system and
 which one you should use depends on lots of parameters (resolution
 and maximum primarily, but also the cost of using the timers) for the
 times that you want to measure, if you choose to do it internally in
 the coreboot code.
 
If you have an Intel chipset, I have meade some recent discoveries (thanks to
serialice) that the ICH southbridges actually have a timer built into the power
management registers. You could always do a read of this register at the
starting point and another read of this register at the ending point to
calculate load time if that is what you are looking for(some vender bios's use
this method to calulate memory timing). Hope that helps.


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Re: [coreboot] When should we retire newconfig?

2010-01-09 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 8, 2010 at 4:56 PM Myles Watson myle...@gmail.com wrote:

   All boards still work on newconfig - once we drop that, there are
   several possibilities for cleaning up.
  
   Boards that were recently tested with kconfig and tinybootblock:
   emulation/qemu-x86
   kontron/986lcd-m
   amd/serengeti_cheetah_fam10
   asus/m2v-mx_se
 with kconfig, but not with tiny bootblock:
 I've tested:
 tyan/s2895
 tyan/s2892 
 Hugh's tested:
 arima/hdama

Yes you can add Thomson IP1000 and RCA RM4100 to the list. They build fine with
Kconfig.
In fact they do not build the old way anymore, only with Kconfig.
 
  Is there some kind of guilde line or list of things that need to be done
  to cleanup/convert on each board?
 
 I would say:
 1. Run util/kbuildall/kbuildall vendor/board
 2. Fix Kconfig mismatches in src/mainboard/vendor/board/Kconfig
 3. Build and boot test (and report to the list)
 
 Soon we'll need to start only reporting Kconfig build errors on the mailing
 list.  Then we can fix kbuildall to use an older version of newconfig for
 its comparisons, then we'll be able to phase it out.
 
ok but what needs to be done to use tinybootblock?

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Re: [coreboot] When should we retire newconfig?

2010-01-08 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 8, 2010 at 7:37 AM Patrick Georgi patr...@georgi-clan.de wrote:

 Am 08.01.2010 01:09, schrieb j...@settoplinux.org:
  Hello Patrick,
  Are there any boards that have completely crossed over that I can look at
  for an
  example?
    
 All boards still work on newconfig - once we drop that, there are
 several possibilities for cleaning up.
 
 Boards that were recently tested with kconfig and tinybootblock:
 emulation/qemu-x86
 kontron/986lcd-m
 amd/serengeti_cheetah_fam10
 asus/m2v-mx_se
 
Is there some kind of guilde line or list of things that need to be done to
cleanup/convert on each board?


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Re: [coreboot] When should we retire newconfig?

2010-01-07 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 6, 2010 at 12:03 PM Patrick Georgi patr...@georgi-clan.de wrote:

 Hi,
 
 With r5000 all boards build with kconfig. The last step of the
 buildconfig project is to eliminate the old system so we're down to one
 method of building an image.
 What issues remain before we can remove newconfig from the tree?
 
 My list currently contains:
 * Kconfig must match newconfig for all boards, as appropriate.
 The automatic KBuild report on the list (which can be regenerated
 locally by running util/kbuildall/kbuildall) gives some indication on
 how much work is left in that area.
 
 * More testing
 I'm not sure how many boards and chipsets were successfully run with a
 kconfig image recently.
 
 * Fallback/normal switch
 While the hard part in code is done for the switch (via tinybootblock),
 there are some issues left. kbuild always builds just one image, not two
 as would be necessary to build fallback/normal in a single pass.
 Question is, do we want that?
 In my opinion, it's more sensible to have a way to add to and update an
 existing coreboot image, and expect users who rely on fallback/normal to
 build twice (into the same image), with an appropriate configuration for
 each run.
 Either way, this requires support in the build system (either to update,
 or to build twice in one go), and some alternative tinybootblock routine.
 
 * Documentation
 I'll try to work out some documentation for the new config system and
 code flow (esp. tinybootblock).
 Apart from that, with kconfig, many of the build tutorials on the wiki
 will be outdated.
 
 
Hello Patrick,
Are there any boards that have completely crossed over that I can look at for an
example?


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Re: [coreboot] FOSDEM2010 devroom needs speakers :)

2010-01-07 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On January 7, 2010 at 11:39 PM Rudolf Marek r.ma...@assembler.cz wrote:

 Hi again,
 
 Btw what is the duration of the talk?
 
  Rudolf Marek - ACPI and Suspend/Resume under coreboot
 
 Ever wanted to know more about ACPI? The aim of the talk is to introduce
 the software part of ACPI as well as provide the necessary hardware details to
 
 get the bigger picture. The tour through Coreboot ACPI implementation will be 
 given. Suspend and resume procedure will be presented with all nifty parts 
 explained.
 
 Thats it. I think I need like hour or hour and half for this. Do you like it?
 What sort of audience should I expect?
 
 Perhaps it could even start with a question - what OS needs to know about the 
 hardware - and then show how it is connected to the ACPI (irq routing, PM,
 PCI 
 buses). When done, one could show how this is implemented in Coreboot/what
 files 
 and what does it do. Plus perhaps some hints how to port ACPI to some new
 board. 
 At the end I would like to describe the suspend/resume with some details and 
 pitfalls.
 
 Maybe some a or the is missing in the abstract. We don't use them in Czech
 
 language so I don't have big sense for them.
 
Dam I wish I could be there!
Sounds like it is going to be a pretty good agenda.
Is anyone going to get all the talks on video (crossing my fingers)?

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Re: [coreboot] [flashrom] We have a FOSDEM DevRoom!

2009-12-02 Thread j...@settoplinux.org

On December 2, 2009 at 12:22 AM Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:13:18AM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
  On 02.12.2009 00:36, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
   The kind FOSDEM organizers have given us a DevRoom on saturday the 6th 
   of February, as requested.
     
  
  Thanks a lot for organizing this, Luc!
  
Yes this is a great oppritunity Luc.
I wish I could be there...
 
 Well, i definitely want you to do the introductory flashrom talk. But on 
 the other hand, the introductory part with flashrom is rather limited, 
 after which you can go and delve deeper into one or several 
 further topics that you mentioned.
 
 Chances are that it gets filmed in HDTV and makes it onto phoronix.com.
 
 And for showing off, maybe we should get a webcam along that we then can 
 use to show hardware up close on the projector.
 
According to the wiki it looks like you want to get into bios security a bit.
This may be an opritune time to introduce SerialICE???

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