Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
Am Sonntag, den 28.10.2018, 15:55 +0100 schrieb Luc Verhaegen: > Ooh, bait, on a sunday afternoon with nothing better to do. I'll > bite. > > Matrix is not even 4 years old. > > IRC has been good around for just over 3 decades. Many here have > been > using it for more than 2 already. Yes, 2 decades. 20 years. > > Chat/IM protocols come and go, IRC remains. > > After this, someone will come along to suggest that we should all > switch to whatsapp. > > Luc Verhaegen. > Hey Luc, just send me your number and I'm more than happy to open a Whatsapp group – though IRC is a bit better than WA is ;D Chat protocols come and go, alright, but the times change. Do you use Telnet to access your servers? Or is it SSH? IRC is not encrypted. It does not support message formatting. It doesn't even specify the text-encoding in the protocol. It may exist for 30 years, but there is *a lot* to improve. I think one should be open for new stuff without following every new upcoming trend. And the choosing of a new system is a evolutionary process, people try it and if they like it they stay. Hey, why don't you try Matrix for a few days or weeks? Install a client of your choice, join the Linux or another channel and look how it works. You can even follow discussions on your smartphone while standing in the subway for example. P. -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
Hello, On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:47 PM Timothy Pearson wrote: > More importantly, choose your own application. There are so many good > choices for desktop-side IRC clients at this point that almost certainly > any older developers have already settled on one. Forcing us to switch > clients, or keep a browser tab open, will just shut down the real time > channel and make Email seem like the most attractive option. ;-) I definitely agree. I don't like browser-based applications. On 10/28/2018 06:27 PM, Philipp Stanner wrote: > Well, which client would you especially recommend? I have used HexChat before, and it was nice to work with. I switched to Weechat when I setup ZNC. I like working with terminals, and Weechat is perfect for this. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:36 AM Iru Cai wrote: > Previously it works, but now #coreboot needs registered nicks. AFAIK, that still holds true. This was applied as a measure to stop spambot waves. It is however very restrictive. OTOH, #flashrom has quiet for all unregistered nicks, except those connecting from freenode's webchat. This has the advantage of restricting less legitimate users (especially webchat, which is rather popular among those who only connect for support), but requires messaging an OP should someone need to be manually voiced. Regards, Angel Pons Pons -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/28/2018 06:27 PM, Philipp Stanner wrote: > Well, which client would you especially recommend? On my side I'm rather fond of Konversation. Pidgin is decent too. - -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://www.raptorengineering.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJb10DNAAoJEK+E3vEXDOFbL4cH+wYHp+Yexe18CIHQoDppKXpy T0IlhOweEqPp9rv1HXzQj6bjUIu6xddLDSQNISmNj1pqiR02OqUR2DbhthkxatZg 9JffAX3b9UpXLMh6i5EfVohWO+iyd+lQ2+QKtGR+DGtS1WRGW+XlOpurj4cGVB/y iaIhEv7wTPGy09u+RZFCNLcfMQqX8z2IP0/UnnhE0owmiXqqfAuJm2xEz9QeM8x2 WlY+q2+vTaFMES9lwzPk9K8Sy4lFUSRRDOhJtzz5EgayENDTOxXBgp+ZOlkvXkWD ZL5BkeOm/JOW2BGlE5pYX8CHU/UNJ5mIexE0MCePWiEaJTt2bNcJ5NY5jsQriIg= =M0ru -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
You can register your Matrix nickname on Freenode. There is apparently such an option. So, it still should work. On 29/10/2018 00:35, Iru Cai wrote: > Previously it works, but now #coreboot needs registered nicks. > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:43 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < > coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > >> Not sure if that is still working but >> https://matrix.org/blog/2015/06/22/the-matrix-org-irc-bridge-now-bridges-all-of-freenode/ >> should help connect to IRC via matrix. >> >> Choose your own protocol ;-) >> >> Am So., 28. Okt. 2018, 15:11 hat Philipp Stanner >> geschrieben: >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> have you guys already heard of Matrix? >>> https://matrix.org/blog/home/ >>> >>> It's some sort of modern IRC, using JSON to format messages. It's more >>> modern than IRC. Features are: >>> * Source code formatting and highlighting in messages >>> * multiple devices >>> * history + history synchronization between multiple devices >>> * possible E2C encryption >>> >>> and many more. >>> In theory it will be a decentralized protocol, but there aren't that >>> many servers yet and actually only one working server-software >>> >>> Many projects, especially tech-based ones like the Rust programming >>> language already use the service. >>> >>> Personally I think it's an enormous progress to IRC. I would give it a >>> chance if I were you :) >>> >>> P. >>> >>> -- >>> coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org >>> https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot >>> >> -- >> coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org >> https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot >> > > > -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
Previously it works, but now #coreboot needs registered nicks. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:43 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > Not sure if that is still working but > https://matrix.org/blog/2015/06/22/the-matrix-org-irc-bridge-now-bridges-all-of-freenode/ > should help connect to IRC via matrix. > > Choose your own protocol ;-) > > Am So., 28. Okt. 2018, 15:11 hat Philipp Stanner > geschrieben: > >> Hey, >> >> have you guys already heard of Matrix? >> https://matrix.org/blog/home/ >> >> It's some sort of modern IRC, using JSON to format messages. It's more >> modern than IRC. Features are: >> * Source code formatting and highlighting in messages >> * multiple devices >> * history + history synchronization between multiple devices >> * possible E2C encryption >> >> and many more. >> In theory it will be a decentralized protocol, but there aren't that >> many servers yet and actually only one working server-software >> >> Many projects, especially tech-based ones like the Rust programming >> language already use the service. >> >> Personally I think it's an enormous progress to IRC. I would give it a >> chance if I were you :) >> >> P. >> >> -- >> coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org >> https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot >> > -- > coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org > https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot > -- My website: https://vimacs.lcpu.club Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/ -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
Am Sonntag, den 28.10.2018, 16:45 -0500 schrieb Timothy Pearson: > More importantly, choose your own application. There are so many > good > choices for desktop-side IRC clients at this point that almost > certainly > any older developers have already settled on one. Forcing us to > switch > clients, or keep a browser tab open, will just shut down the real > time > channel and make Email seem like the most attractive option. ;-) Well, which client would you especially recommend? -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/28/2018 02:41 PM, Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > Not sure if that is still working > but > https://matrix.org/blog/2015/06/22/the-matrix-org-irc-bridge-now-bridges-all-of-freenode/ > should help connect to IRC via matrix. > > Choose your own protocol ;-) More importantly, choose your own application. There are so many good choices for desktop-side IRC clients at this point that almost certainly any older developers have already settled on one. Forcing us to switch clients, or keep a browser tab open, will just shut down the real time channel and make Email seem like the most attractive option. ;-) - -- Timothy Pearson Raptor Engineering +1 (415) 727-8645 (direct line) +1 (512) 690-0200 (switchboard) https://www.raptorengineering.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJb1i33AAoJEK+E3vEXDOFb8sQH/0py9i68f0s+ZT25TK1x/G9i kGnHNTi/lZGcBu8BhTxRq9NTUildaljC/eAMDcLFP7vwalSsPgQnGIXxZfxwj4I5 keNffwSl68Rt2E0tLhFnwp9J7hmznri6+wemPK8px6lWqKlbsUBCrcZ2d1QWDHDT Cjtl1h21/bKkK8LDtSvl+5zRon4EFrg1cGIx1wRtDsRTnl05IOSMuyQqWueqdbxy Hc3rcZI/rh0RpmtbDORtu0smpW3n3EFIwBpADDqNQZG4A44Qh/p2GtuBhQV9kVan 4hxdtJe+iS6vVsFHxCfhqVf4OVrdDYq8FFT+DTBl4NbpY8sLYHlqefnqiWC5o7A= =lLHJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
Not sure if that is still working but https://matrix.org/blog/2015/06/22/the-matrix-org-irc-bridge-now-bridges-all-of-freenode/ should help connect to IRC via matrix. Choose your own protocol ;-) Am So., 28. Okt. 2018, 15:11 hat Philipp Stanner geschrieben: > Hey, > > have you guys already heard of Matrix? > https://matrix.org/blog/home/ > > It's some sort of modern IRC, using JSON to format messages. It's more > modern than IRC. Features are: > * Source code formatting and highlighting in messages > * multiple devices > * history + history synchronization between multiple devices > * possible E2C encryption > > and many more. > In theory it will be a decentralized protocol, but there aren't that > many servers yet and actually only one working server-software > > Many projects, especially tech-based ones like the Rust programming > language already use the service. > > Personally I think it's an enormous progress to IRC. I would give it a > chance if I were you :) > > P. > > -- > coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org > https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot > -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
Re: [coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 03:10:11PM +0100, Philipp Stanner wrote: > Hey, > > have you guys already heard of Matrix? > https://matrix.org/blog/home/ > > It's some sort of modern IRC, using JSON to format messages. It's more > modern than IRC. Features are: > * Source code formatting and highlighting in messages > * multiple devices > * history + history synchronization between multiple devices > * possible E2C encryption > > and many more. > In theory it will be a decentralized protocol, but there aren't that > many servers yet and actually only one working server-software > > Many projects, especially tech-based ones like the Rust programming > language already use the service. > > Personally I think it's an enormous progress to IRC. I would give it a > chance if I were you :) > > P. Ooh, bait, on a sunday afternoon with nothing better to do. I'll bite. Matrix is not even 4 years old. IRC has been good around for just over 3 decades. Many here have been using it for more than 2 already. Yes, 2 decades. 20 years. Chat/IM protocols come and go, IRC remains. After this, someone will come along to suggest that we should all switch to whatsapp. Luc Verhaegen. -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
[coreboot] Matrix instead (or additionally to) IRC
Hey, have you guys already heard of Matrix? https://matrix.org/blog/home/ It's some sort of modern IRC, using JSON to format messages. It's more modern than IRC. Features are: * Source code formatting and highlighting in messages * multiple devices * history + history synchronization between multiple devices * possible E2C encryption and many more. In theory it will be a decentralized protocol, but there aren't that many servers yet and actually only one working server-software Many projects, especially tech-based ones like the Rust programming language already use the service. Personally I think it's an enormous progress to IRC. I would give it a chance if I were you :) P. -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://mail.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot
