Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Mohit Gupta wrote:
 Don't understand why Intel has made DRAM controller setup/Ram-init
 documentation NDA,

Many people wonder about the same thing. It's not clear.


 and have made chipset documentation public

The chipset docs aren't really published. Only some parts of them.


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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-18 Thread Mohit Gupta
Thanks Vald ... not possible to break intel safe :).. wondering how coreboot 
team was able to write i945 ram init?
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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-18 Thread Mohit Gupta
Thanks Peter once again for helpful information. I was reading code line by 
line and going through i945 Express chipset document, tried to understand 
register settings and values. Seems to be tough job writing RAM init, and 
wouldn't have been possible without any documentation. Don't understand why 
Intel has made DRAM controller setup/Ram-init documentation NDA, and have made 
chipset documentation public
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[coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-13 Thread Mohit Gupta
I am having trouble understanding i945 ram init code especially timing 
parameters. Can some explain me in layman language? When I go through DDR2 
specification, timing related text is too complex and confusing. Interested in 
getting very simple explanation.

Also, i945 ram init code is doing lot of settings in MCH. Is there any step by 
step documentation available?
 
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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-13 Thread Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
On 14.02.2014 00:03, Mohit Gupta wrote:
 I am having trouble understanding i945 ram init code especially timing
 parameters. Can some explain me in layman language? When I go through
 DDR2 specification, timing related text is too complex and confusing.
 Interested in getting very simple explanation.
 
There isn't any. RAM init is difficult.
 Also, i945 ram init code is doing lot of settings in MCH. Is there any
 step by step documentation available?
 
Sure:
1) Locate intel offices
2) Locate their top-secret safes
3) Observe security
4) Buy military gear
5) Recruit and train a company (~200 people) for a year
6) Launch assault on the office
7) Break into the safe
8) Get out of Intel building
9) Read the documentation

 Regards
 Mohit Gupta
 
 




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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-13 Thread mrnuke
On Friday, February 14, 2014 12:38:58 AM Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko 
wrote:
 Sure:
 1) Locate intel offices
 2) Locate their top-secret safes
 3) Observe security
 4) Buy military gear
 5) Recruit and train a company (~200 people) for a year
 6) Launch assault on the office
 7) Break into the safe
 8) Get out of Intel building
 9) Read the documentation
 
Don't do that. As a member of the US Armed Forces, I will stop you. Instead, 
why not get enough cash, buy Intel, then you can make executive decisions. 
It's legal.

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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-13 Thread Mohit Gupta


Thanks Vald … not possible to break intel safe .. wondering how coreboot team 
was able
to write i945 ram init? 
 
Regards
Mohit Gupta



On Friday, 14 February 2014 10:39 AM, Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko 
phco...@gmail.com wrote:
 
On 14.02.2014 00:03, Mohit Gupta wrote:
 I am having trouble understanding i945 ram init code especially timing
 parameters. Can some explain me in layman language? When I go through
 DDR2 specification, timing related text is too complex and confusing.
 Interested in getting very simple explanation.
 
There isn't any. RAM init is difficult.
 Also, i945 ram init code is doing lot of settings in MCH. Is there any
 step by step documentation available?
 
Sure:
1) Locate intel offices
2) Locate their top-secret safes
3) Observe security
4) Buy military gear
5) Recruit and train a company (~200 people) for a year
6) Launch assault on the office
7) Break into the safe
8) Get out of Intel building
9) Read the documentation


 Regards
 Mohit Gupta
 
 



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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-13 Thread Mohit Gupta

Thanks Vald … not possible to break intel safe .. wondering how coreboot team 
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Re: [coreboot] Ram Init: Intel i945: Timing parameters

2014-02-13 Thread Peter Stuge
Mohit Gupta wrote:
 wondering how coreboot team was able to write i945 ram init? 

The code was written by individuals who had limited access to Intel
documents and source code under NDA.

Those individuals can not tutor you in the i945 MCH or in DDR2
technology.


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