[coreboot] Re: Coreboot + ASUS P5K-E???

2020-01-13 Thread Mike Banon
>
> Please don't suggest "cross-flashing". That it worked does not mean
> that it is a wise thing to do. Different boards have different
> settings, and some of these are critical. The worst case are GPIOs:
> configurable pins that can be either inputs or outputs. If a GPIO that
> is wired as an input is configured as an output, this will result in a
> shortcircuit when the logic levels conflict, which can damage
> something. Maybe some GPIOs control the RAM voltage regulators on some
> boards?
>

Sorry, I used to think that in worst case it simply won't boot... This
makes a porting seem more dangerous to do, if there's a chance of
damaging a board by simply flashing an incorrect build.
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[coreboot] Re: Coreboot + ASUS P5K-E???

2020-01-13 Thread Angel Pons
Hi Aaron, Mike,

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 9:34 AM Mike Banon  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:10 AM Aaron Garza  wrote:
> >
> > Does Coreboot work on every motherboard or does it have to be certain
> > motherboards/PCs?
> >
> > I have an old Intel Core 2 Quad and an ASUS P5K-E motherboard that I
> > would love to set up with a coreboot BIOS replacement. Is it even possible?

The Asus P5K-E uses a P35 northbridge, for which there is no support.
Getting coreboot to run on it would require adding support for this
northbridge (which is a rather complex task).

About mainboard support: coreboot can run on anything as long as
support for it is added. For example, porting (adding support for)
LGA775 or LGA1155 desktop boards is not too hard, as long as the
northbridge, southbridge and SuperIO are supported. Of course,
flashing coreboot onto a supported board is easier, but you learn much
more when doing a port. Laptops are harder to port, however. They have
an EC (embedded controller), which is a microcontroller running some
custom, undocumented firmware. coreboot does not replace the EC
firmware, but has to interact with the EC to make things like
keyboard, touchpad, fan control, lid switch, battery and power
management function correctly. Adding support for the EC interface is
the most time-consuming part of a laptop port.

> As coreboot does the low level init of hardware, its' support is
> board-specific of course. If you'd look at coreboot supported boards (
> i.e. those with a board status report here -
> https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html ), there are some ASUS
> P5*** boards supported. Compare your P5K-E technical specification
> against these boards, take the most similar one, build a coreboot for
> it and (after a backup of previous chip contents just in case) try it
> on your PC - maybe it will work. I've done ASUS P2B build for my
> friend's ASUS P2B-B board, and it ran fine without any source code
> modifications at all! Perhaps should add it as a board variant to
> Kconfig, but I'm too lazy/busy solving the other problems.

Please don't suggest "cross-flashing". That it worked does not mean
that it is a wise thing to do. Different boards have different
settings, and some of these are critical. The worst case are GPIOs:
configurable pins that can be either inputs or outputs. If a GPIO that
is wired as an input is configured as an output, this will result in a
shortcircuit when the logic levels conflict, which can damage
something. Maybe some GPIOs control the RAM voltage regulators on some
boards?

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Best regards,

Angel
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[coreboot] Re: Coreboot + ASUS P5K-E???

2020-01-13 Thread Mike Banon
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:10 AM Aaron Garza  wrote:
>
> Does Coreboot work on every motherboard or does it have to be certain
> motherboards/PCs?
>
> I have an old Intel Core 2 Quad and an ASUS P5K-E motherboard that I
> would love to set up with a coreboot BIOS replacement. Is it even possible?

As coreboot does the low level init of hardware, its' support is
board-specific of course. If you'd look at coreboot supported boards (
i.e. those with a board status report here -
https://coreboot.org/status/board-status.html ), there are some ASUS
P5*** boards supported. Compare your P5K-E technical specification
against these boards, take the most similar one, build a coreboot for
it and (after a backup of previous chip contents just in case) try it
on your PC - maybe it will work. I've done ASUS P2B build for my
friend's ASUS P2B-B board, and it ran fine without any source code
modifications at all! Perhaps should add it as a board variant to
Kconfig, but I'm too lazy/busy solving the other problems.
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