RE: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures. You may be mixing up two different things. Let me make sure that we're talking about the same thing. (Sorry if I'm insulting your intelligence! :-) Maildirs are simply special sorts of folders that certain mta's (courier, postfix, etc.) can deliver mail to (one message per file) and certain imap servers (courier) can read. This has nothing to do with Inbox, Outbox, etc. With this sort of setup your Inbox is a maildir, your outbox is a maildir, in fact every folder you see in your mail client is really a maildir. Jeff Thanks for taking the time. Okay, prehaps I got it wrong. I was pretty sure that I'd read that the courier (and/or postfix???) would take care of this for me. Why else must I specify the Sent and Trash parameters in /etc/imapd?? Anyway, if it doesn't, it doesn't.. So moving swiftly on.. First are you creating the folders inside of your INBOX? You set up an account and you specify a HOME and MAIL directory. That MAIL directory is a maildir. So let's say that the HOME directory for someone is /home/mailusers/john and the MAIL directory is /home/mailusers/john/Maildir. The MAIL directory is that user's INBOX. So if you want to create a Drafts folder for this account then you would run maildirmake -f Drafts /home/mailusers/user/Maildir After reading the man file, I thought I had a grip on this when I tried it. The line I used was...Anyway, I deleted everything and started all over again as per your instructions. This worked, but with the net result that I had folders caled Drafts, Sent Items, Outbox and Trash as *subfolders* of my Inbox (Because that is what Outlook called). This looks a) messy and b) illogical. What I would like is to have Drafts, Sent, Trash, etc as *sister* folders to the Inbox. I tried to do this, and it is possible to but Outlook still puts them all as a subdirectory of Inbox. Which doesn't help. Is there a way to do what I want, or am I pissing into the wind? Lydiard That would create a maildir /home/mailusers/user/Maildir/.Drafts which your clients should see as the folder 'Drafts'. Maildirs have permissions 700 so make sure that you create the maildir as the proper user. If you create the maildir as root but the account is owned by user john then your client won't be able to access that folder. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures.
Lydiard wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures. You may be mixing up two different things. Let me make sure that we're talking about the same thing. (Sorry if I'm insulting your intelligence! :-) Maildirs are simply special sorts of folders that certain mta's (courier, postfix, etc.) can deliver mail to (one message per file) and certain imap servers (courier) can read. This has nothing to do with Inbox, Outbox, etc. With this sort of setup your Inbox is a maildir, your outbox is a maildir, in fact every folder you see in your mail client is really a maildir. Jeff Thanks for taking the time. Okay, prehaps I got it wrong. I was pretty sure that I'd read that the courier (and/or postfix???) would take care of this for me. Why else must I specify the Sent and Trash parameters in /etc/imapd?? Anyway, if it doesn't, it doesn't.. So moving swiftly on.. This is a client function. First are you creating the folders inside of your INBOX? You set up an account and you specify a HOME and MAIL directory. That MAIL directory is a maildir. So let's say that the HOME directory for someone is /home/mailusers/john and the MAIL directory is /home/mailusers/john/Maildir. The MAIL directory is that user's INBOX. So if you want to create a Drafts folder for this account then you would run maildirmake -f Drafts /home/mailusers/user/Maildir After reading the man file, I thought I had a grip on this when I tried it. The line I used was...Anyway, I deleted everything and started all over again as per your instructions. This worked, but with the net result that I had folders caled Drafts, Sent Items, Outbox and Trash as *subfolders* of my Inbox (Because that is what Outlook called). This looks a) messy and b) illogical. What I would like is to have Drafts, Sent, Trash, etc as *sister* folders to the Inbox. I tried to do this, and it is possible to but Outlook still puts them all as a subdirectory of Inbox. Which doesn't help. Is there a way to do what I want, or am I pissing into the wind? http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/FAQ.html#namespace In outlook this is the Root Folder Path: in your imap account options. Lydiard That would create a maildir /home/mailusers/user/Maildir/.Drafts which your clients should see as the folder 'Drafts'. Maildirs have permissions 700 so make sure that you create the maildir as the proper user. If you create the maildir as root but the account is owned by user john then your client won't be able to access that folder. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures.
On Monday 03 November 2003 12:52, Lydiard wrote:
What I would like is to have Drafts, Sent, Trash, etc as *sister*
folders to the Inbox. I tried to do this, and it is possible to but
Outlook still puts them all as a subdirectory of Inbox. Which doesn't
help. Is there a way to do what I want, or am I pissing into the wind?
This is a client issue, not a server one. It's the client that displays the
folders. So you need to tell your client to display the folders properly.
In the case of Outlook you need to go into the account settings, find the
IMAP tab and under root folder path put INBOX. That's the word INBOX
followed by a period ('.'). Then Outlook will display the folders as
siblings of the INBOX instead of as children.
Jeff Jansen
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[courier-users] Mail Directory Structures.
Hi My understanding of the maildirmake command, is that it would make a folder with (according to the /courier/etc/imapd) an Inbox, an Outbox, and a Trash folders However, this it hasn't done. Is my understanding correct? If so, is it possible that Postfix is using something else to create the maildirs? The second problem is, if I use maildirmake -f to try and add in the Outbox, Trash and Drafts folders, the command is accepted without throwing an error, but when I login in, there is no new folder displayed. I have tried refreshing the folders list but to no avail. Please can someone help me figure this out. It's just about the last step I need in order to have a perfectly working mail setup. TIA Lyd --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures.
On Sunday 02 November 2003 08:19, Lydiard wrote: My understanding of the maildirmake command, is that it would make a folder with (according to the /courier/etc/imapd) an Inbox, an Outbox, and a Trash folders You may be mixing up two different things. Let me make sure that we're talking about the same thing. (Sorry if I'm insulting your intelligence! :-) Maildirs are simply special sorts of folders that certain mta's (courier, postfix, etc.) can deliver mail to (one message per file) and certain imap servers (courier) can read. This has nothing to do with Inbox, Outbox, etc. With this sort of setup your Inbox is a maildir, your outbox is a maildir, in fact every folder you see in your mail client is really a maildir. The second problem is, if I use maildirmake -f to try and add in the Outbox, Trash and Drafts folders, the command is accepted without throwing an error, but when I login in, there is no new folder displayed. I have tried refreshing the folders list but to no avail. First are you creating the folders inside of your INBOX? You set up an account and you specify a HOME and MAIL directory. That MAIL directory is a maildir. So let's say that the HOME directory for someone is /home/mailusers/john and the MAIL directory is /home/mailusers/john/Maildir. The MAIL directory is that user's INBOX. So if you want to create a Drafts folder for this account then you would run maildirmake -f Drafts /home/mailusers/user/Maildir That would create a maildir /home/mailusers/user/Maildir/.Drafts which your clients should see as the folder 'Drafts'. Maildirs have permissions 700 so make sure that you create the maildir as the proper user. If you create the maildir as root but the account is owned by user john then your client won't be able to access that folder. Hope that helps. If you've set everything up correctly then it could also be a client issue. What client(s) are you using? Jeff Jansen --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
RE: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures.
One other think you might be missing... some clients - outlook included maintain a subscription file containing a list of folders to be shown - this can be used for a variety of things including selecting additional folders to test for new mail. If your subscription list is not updated, another option (at least in outlook) is to uncheck show only subscribed folders from the imap folders window in outlook. Another possibility would be to make sure the courierimapsubscribed file inside the maildir is updatedx to include the new folder you add - would end up being a new line with something like INBOX.Drafts. If it doesn't already - which I'm guessing is the case, might even make sense to add this function to maildirmake. At least as an option? m/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Jansen Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [courier-users] Mail Directory Structures. First are you creating the folders inside of your INBOX? You set up an account and you specify a HOME and MAIL directory. That MAIL directory is a maildir. So let's say that the HOME directory for someone is /home/mailusers/john and the MAIL directory is /home/mailusers/john/Maildir. The MAIL directory is that user's INBOX. So if you want to create a Drafts folder for this account then you would run maildirmake -f Drafts /home/mailusers/user/Maildir That would create a maildir /home/mailusers/user/Maildir/.Drafts which your clients should see as the folder 'Drafts'. Maildirs have permissions 700 so make sure that you create the maildir as the proper user. If you create the maildir as root but the account is owned by user john then your client won't be able to access that folder. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
