Re: [courier-users] Re: make install-configure overwrites old configuration
On Aug 3, 2004, at 1:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mainly because it limits me to the daemon user which is a) not recommended and Where did you read that it's not recommended. In install.html which I read in its entirety before entering a single comma ;-) Quote: You should create a new userid and groupid named courier. That's optional, but highly recommended. [...] Ideally, you should reserve a separate user and group ID for Courier's use only, so a compromised mail system cannot be used to compromise the rest of the system. If push comes to shove, you can set up Courier to use a well-defined existing user and group ID, such as daemon. That's optional, but highly recommended., Ideally,, If push comes to shove,. To me (and I am sure many other newbies) this means that ergo other options are not (as) recommended. b) trails a whole lot of setuid, user and other problems for fetchmail, maildrop etc. This does not change no matter what installation method you'd use. Well, daemon seems to be a special user. Her $HOME directory in Debian by default is /usr/sbin which does not agree with maildrop (it thinks it's world readable and balks) so I need to change daemons working directory (and I have no idea what the implicatios of this are) in order to deliver mail to virtual users. Also in order to filter through spamd I have to introduce another user. Come fetchmail with a third user and the whole setup gets very confusing. It is definitely nicer to have one user - courier - to run all those processes. Also it's not platform independant when I move to FreeBSD. Then you will use the FreeBSD-specific packaging method. And have to start learning from scratch. If I learn how to do it from the tarball, then on every platform I go to, I will have the same procedure and the the same prefixes - which seem to be different on every system. RPM, apt, SuSe have their own I think, and now BSD. Unlike them, tarball and gnu-make cum gcc etc. seem to be the same everywhere. The learning curve is much steeper but it should pay off in the end. Also one understands the workings of the system much better. With binary distributions it's like Microsoft Windows Installshield. Messes up your system without your knowledge or permission. I was under the impression that tarballs and gnu-make are the preferred method of distributing software in the *X world and that binary packaged distributions are just a courtesy to not-so-technical sysadmins. Am I wrong there? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Re: make install-configure overwrites old configuration
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 09:38:37 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 3, 2004, at 1:14 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mainly because it limits me to the daemon user which is a) not recommended and Where did you read that it's not recommended. In install.html which I read in its entirety before entering a single comma ;-) Quote: You should create a new userid and groupid named courier. That's optional, but highly recommended. [...] Ideally, you should reserve a separate user and group ID for Courier's use only, so a compromised mail system cannot be used to compromise the rest of the system. If push comes to shove, you can set up Courier to use a well-defined existing user and group ID, such as daemon. That's optional, but highly recommended., Ideally,, If push comes to shove,. To me (and I am sure many other newbies) this means that ergo other options are not (as) recommended. b) trails a whole lot of setuid, user and other problems for fetchmail, maildrop etc. This does not change no matter what installation method you'd use. Well, daemon seems to be a special user. Her $HOME directory in Debian by default is /usr/sbin which does not agree with maildrop (it thinks it's world readable and balks) so I need to change daemons working directory (and I have no idea what the implicatios of this are) in order to deliver mail to virtual users. Also in order to filter through spamd I have to introduce another user. Come fetchmail with a third user and the whole setup gets very confusing. It is definitely nicer to have one user - courier - to run all those processes. Unfortunately the /etc/passwd keepers in Debian didn't grant me a courier user with a fixed uid/gid and Courier needs a numeric uid/gid for the build process. If maildrop balks, please write a Debian bug report. Bye Racke -- LinuXia Systems = http://www.linuxia.de/ Expert Interchange Consulting and System Administration ICDEVGROUP = http://www.icdevgroup.org/ Interchange Development Team --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] Re: make install-configure overwrites old configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greetings to all. I am upgrading from courier 0.37.3 (Debian Woody package) to 0.45.6.20040723 tarball. Install.html insists that #make install-configure should backup the old configuration files and take over current configuration settings. This doesn't work for me. It overwrites most old settings with new defaults although the output randomly reports unchaged or new (ie. reportedly unchaged ones are new). I am proceeding like this: #make install (goes into /usr/lib/courier) #cp -a /etc/courier/* /usr/lib/courier/etc (there are no .dist files in /etc/courier) And that's why make install-configure does not work. 0.37.3 is ancient, and did not include the needed configuration data. make install-configure was introduced in a later version. pgp67wA9cC1cJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[courier-users] Re: make install-configure overwrites old configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mainly because it limits me to the daemon user which is a) not recommended and Where did you read that it's not recommended. b) trails a whole lot of setuid, user and other problems for fetchmail, maildrop etc. This does not change no matter what installation method you'd use. Also it's not platform independant when I move to FreeBSD. Then you will use the FreeBSD-specific packaging method. pgpKltfQKu5Yx.pgp Description: PGP signature
[courier-users] Re: make install-configure
Hi,
Sorry the last messege, I see the erros,
but what I can to be?
the errors:
/usr/bin/perl5 ././sysconftool `awk ' $5 ==
"config" $1 ~ /\.dist$/ { print $1 }'
permissions.dat`/usr/lib/courier/etc/ldapaddressbook.dist: No such file
or directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/faxcoverpage.tr.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/faxrc.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/faxnotifyrc.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpd.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpd-msa.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpd-ssl.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/courierd.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/pop3d.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/pop3d-ssl.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/imapd.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/imapd-ssl.dist: No such file or
directory/usr/lib/courier/etc/authdaemonrc.dist: No such file or
directorymake: *** [install-configure] Error 9
- Original Message -
From:
Fabrcio Carlos
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:48
AM
Subject: make install-configure
Hi,
I hasrun the command: "make install-configure" in the end the
system return the messege:
"make: *** [install-configure] Error
9"
Where I see this erros?
Fabrcio
CarlosFbrica de IdiasFone: +55(61)321 1357Fax: +55(61)223
1712SCS - Quadra 2 - Ed. Empire Center - Sala 1301Braslia/DF -
BrasilCEP:
70.070-904
Re: [courier-users] Re: make install-configure
Original Message
From: Fabrcio Carlos
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: [courier-users] Re: make install-configure
Hi,
Sorry the last messege, I see the erros, but what I can to be?
the errors:
/usr/bin/perl5 ././sysconftool `awk ' $5 == config $1 ~
/\.dist$/ { print $1 }' permissions.dat`
/usr/lib/courier/etc/ldapaddressbook.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/faxcoverpage.tr.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/faxrc.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/faxnotifyrc.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpd.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpd-msa.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/esmtpd-ssl.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/courierd.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/pop3d.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/pop3d-ssl.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/imapd.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/imapd-ssl.dist: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/courier/etc/authdaemonrc.dist: No such file or directory
make: *** [install-configure] Error 9
Looks like you didn't run 'make install' first
- Original Message -
From: Fabrcio Carlos
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: make install-configure
Hi,
I has run the command: make install-configure in the end the system
return the messege:
make: *** [install-configure] Error 9
Where I see this erros?
Fabrcio Carlos
Fbrica de Idias
Fone: +55(61)321 1357
Fax: +55(61)223 1712
SCS - Quadra 2 - Ed. Empire Center - Sala 1301
Braslia/DF - Brasil
CEP: 70.070-904
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[courier-users] Re: make install-configure
the only thing I have seen give this error is when I have not become superuser. Were you running this as root? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] Re: make install-configure Error Code 1
Eugene Borukhovich writes: my host# make install-configure *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install-configure' Any ideas? I tried both make that comes with Solaris as well as gnu make from sunfreew are If you're going to use a different make, try rebuilding from the beginning: MAKE=gmake ./configure [ options ] Sun's make definitely won't work. I have no idea what mutation Sun calls gmake, but it should be a rather straightforward matter to get the latest gmake from www.gnu.org. It's fairly simple to compile and install. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
RE: [courier-users] Re: make install-configure Error Code 1
Well, the make version from sunfreeware.com is the latest packaged gmake 3.80. I did try recompiling it again and again and still the same issue. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
