Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:47:52 -0400
Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a packaging bug. Apache is the primary owner of
Ok, agreed.
so it should install this directory, instead of having it implicitly
Yes
That's incorrect. Because the packages explicitly install this
directory, any package will satisfy this dependency.
So you mean, that every package has a
%dir /usr/.../font
line in %files? Okay, but then we are talking about different things.
I was talking about the way /var/www/cgi-bin is created right now in
the Mandrake apache RPM. It is created, because it contains files
which are in /var/www/cgi-bin, and that's why I brought up the
/usr/bin example. Many packages have files in /usr/bin, but on
Mandrake exactly one package provides this directory: basesystem.
So I don't get what you wanted to say with the X font packages
example. But that's OT here.
I'll accept a patch that checks for a Mandrake distro, and makes the
necessary adjustments. You should be able to come up with something
that does not depend on an external flag, and detects a Mandrake
distro automatically.
What do you mean by external flag? I thought about checking for the
existance of /etc/mandrake-release, and if this file is present, I
would have assumed that this is a Mandrake distro. Or I might do a
rpm -q --queryformat '%{RELEASE}' rpm | grep -q mdk echo TRUE (or
something like that). Would these be external flags?
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[courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
Alexander Skwar writes:
I'll accept a patch that checks for a Mandrake distro, and makes the
necessary adjustments. You should be able to come up with something
that does not depend on an external flag, and detects a Mandrake
distro automatically.
What do you mean by external flag? I thought about checking for the
existance of /etc/mandrake-release, and if this file is present, I
would have assumed that this is a Mandrake distro. Or I might do a
rpm -q --queryformat '%{RELEASE}' rpm | grep -q mdk echo TRUE (or
something like that). Would these be external flags?
Either one will work fine.
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Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
So sprach Sam Varshavchik am 2002-06-25 um 07:26:15 -0400 :
Either one will work fine.
Attached. It also sets the %courier_release to mdk and further replaces
the obsolete Copyright: tag with License:
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--- courier.spec.in 2002-06-23 13:17:04.0 -0400
+++ courier.spec.in.mdk 2002-06-25 15:13:59.0 -0400
@@ -6,8 +6,14 @@
# Need to version-upgrade RH builds due to different directory locations.
#
-%define courier_release %(release=`rpm -q --queryformat='.%{VERSION}' redhat-release
2/dev/null` ; if test $? != 0 ; then release= ; fi ; echo $release)
%define alternatives %(test -x /usr/sbin/alternatives echo 1 || echo 0)
+%define is_not_mandrake %(test ! -x /etc/mandrake-release echo 0 || echo 1)
+
+%if %is_not_mandrake
+%define courier_release %(release=`rpm -q --queryformat='.%{VERSION}' redhat-release
+2/dev/null` ; if test $? != 0 ; then release= ; fi ; echo $release)
+%else
+%define courier_release mdk
+%endif
%define __libtoolize /bin/true
@@ -15,7 +21,7 @@
Name: courier
Version: @VERSION@
Release: 1%{courier_release}
-Copyright: GPL
+License: GPL
Group: Applications/Mail
Source: http://download.sourceforge.net/courier/courier-@VERSION@.tar.gz
Packager: %{PACKAGER}
@@ -29,7 +35,10 @@
Requires: courier-sendmail-wrapper
%endif
-BuildPreReq: rpm = 4.0.2 fileutils binutils sed perl make openssl gdbm-devel
openssl-perl openssl-devel pam-devel gnupg = 1.0.5 expect
+BuildPreReq: rpm = 4.0.2 fileutils binutils sed perl make openssl gdbm-devel
+openssl-devel pam-devel gnupg = 1.0.5 expect
+%if %is_not_mandrake
+BuildPreReq: openssl-perl
+%endif
#
# RH custom locations.
@@ -79,12 +88,18 @@
%package webmail
Summary: Courier @VERSION@ Integrated HTTP (webmail) server
Group: Applications/Mail
-Requires: courier = @VERSION@ %{_cgibindir} %{_documentrootdir} vixie-cron gnupg =
1.0.5 expect fileutils
+Requires: courier = @VERSION@ %{_documentrootdir} vixie-cron gnupg = 1.0.5 expect
+fileutils
+%if %is_not_mandrake
+Requires: %{_cgibindir}
+%endif
%package webadmin
Summary: Courier @VERSION@ web-based administration tool
Group: Applications/Mail
-Requires: courier = @VERSION@ %{_cgibindir} %{_documentrootdir}
+Requires: courier = @VERSION@ %{_documentrootdir}
+%if %is_not_mandrake
+Requires: %{_cgibindir}
+%endif
%package mlm
Summary: Courier @VERSION@ Integrated Mailing List Manager
Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote: Wouldn't it be possible to have it distribution independent? Especially if it is as easy as dropping the require for cgibindir and openssl-perl? As I said in an earlier off-list email to you, I think you're looking at a Mandrake bug (ie. that no package owns /var/www/cgi-bin even though it appears that apache-common created it). I don't see the value in dropping openssl-perl either, as the package provides the necessary scripts for cert and key conversions to OpenSSL formats. Sam probably hasn't the time to provide SPEC files for other RPM-based distributions like Mandrake and SuSE. If you do, go for it. -- Regards, Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
So sprach Juha Saarinen am 2002-06-24 um 21:21:52 +1200 :
As I said in an earlier off-list email to you, I think you're looking at a
Mandrake bug (ie. that no package owns /var/www/cgi-bin even though it
appears that apache-common created it).
And as I said, it doesn't matter if a package creates a directory. It
only matters if it provides it, by either explicitly stating Proivdes:
/var/www/cgi-bin or by having %{dir} /var/www/cgi-bin in the %files
list.
Besides: What's the value in requiring /var/www/cgi-bin? The package
already Requires: apache by requiring /var/www/html.
I don't see the value in dropping openssl-perl either, as the package
The value is, that there's no openssl-perl package.
Sam probably hasn't the time to provide SPEC files for other RPM-based
distributions like Mandrake and SuSE. If you do, go for it.
Well, the SPEC can easily be adopted for Mandrake by dropping the
Requires: for /var/www/cgi-bin and openssl-perl. This way, it will work
for RedHat and Mandrake. Don't know about SuSE.
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[courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
Alexander Skwar writes: So sprach Sam Varshavchik am 2002-06-23 um 21:52:49 -0400 : The RPM spec file is for Red Hat. You're welcome to modify it for your distribution. Wouldn't it be possible to have it distribution independent? Especially if it is as easy as dropping the require for cgibindir and openssl-perl? Except that the cgi-bin directory, and the script from openssl-perl, is a mandatory prerequisite. -- Sam --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
Alexander Skwar writes:
And as I said, it doesn't matter if a package creates a directory. It
only matters if it provides it, by either explicitly stating Proivdes:
/var/www/cgi-bin or by having %{dir} /var/www/cgi-bin in the %files
list.
Nope. If the package installs /var/www/cgi-bin, then the package will
satisfy a dependency on /var/www/cgi-bin.
Besides: What's the value in requiring /var/www/cgi-bin? The package
already Requires: apache by requiring /var/www/html.
If the apache package provides /var/www/html, it should provide the cgi-bin
directory as well.
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Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
So sprach Sam Varshavchik am 2002-06-24 um 10:19:51 -0400 : Nope. If the package installs /var/www/cgi-bin, then the package will satisfy a dependency on /var/www/cgi-bin. That's wrong. Else every package would satisfy a dependency on /usr/bin. And that's not true - and it also shouldn't be true. If the apache package provides /var/www/html, it should provide the cgi-bin directory as well. Yes, it should. However, it doesn't. And there are a lot of installations where this won't be. New packages *MIGHT* satisfy this, but that's not guaranteed. However, it's easy to make courier be Mandrake compatible. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 1 day 6 hours 43 minutes --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
So sprach Sam Varshavchik am 2002-06-24 um 17:11:41 -0400 : Only if /usr/bin, the directory itself, is created by the package, in addition to whatever the package installs in /usr/bin. Yes, exactly. And the apache RPM does not create the /var/www/cgi-bin directory directly by having %dir /var/www/cgi-bin. It's only created, because it contains files which are in /var/www/cgi-bin. packages. This way, removing the last font package that installs some font subdirectory of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts will also remove the font subdirectory itself. Yes, and this makes sense. However, because of this, there can be no package which has a Requires: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, because this directory isn't provided or owned by a package. Yes, many packages might create this directory. But that's not important as far as RPM's dependencies are concerned. I do agree that this might/is a bug in the Mandrake apache RPM. But as I already said, there's nothing that can be done about it - at least not as far as the the current and older packages of apache are concerned. Would you accept a patch to the spec which makes this a conditional requirement, so that packages built on a Mandrake machine do not have this? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 1 day 11 hours 25 minutes --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote:
Yes, exactly. And the apache RPM does not create the /var/www/cgi-bin
directory directly by having %dir /var/www/cgi-bin. It's only created,
because it contains files which are in /var/www/cgi-bin.
That depends on which Apache RPM package you use, it seems. RH Apache
2.0.x RPMs have:
%define contentdir %{_var}/www2
-e 's;@@ServerRoot@@/htdocs;%{contentdir}/html;' \
datadir: %{contentdir}
iconsdir: %{contentdir}/icons
htdocsdir: %{contentdir}/html
errordir: %{contentdir}/error
manualdir: %{contentdir}/manual
cgidir:%{contentdir}/cgi-bin
--datadir=%{contentdir} \
%dir %{contentdir}/cgi-bin
but nothing gets installed in cgi-bin when you install Apache.
Apache 1.3.x RPMs exhibit similar behaviour.
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[courier-users] Re: webmail and webadmin require %{cgibindir}
Alexander Skwar writes: So sprach Sam Varshavchik am 2002-06-24 um 17:11:41 -0400 : Only if /usr/bin, the directory itself, is created by the package, in addition to whatever the package installs in /usr/bin. Yes, exactly. And the apache RPM does not create the /var/www/cgi-bin directory directly by having %dir /var/www/cgi-bin. It's only created, because it contains files which are in /var/www/cgi-bin. This is a packaging bug. Apache is the primary owner of /var/www/cgi-bin, so it should install this directory, instead of having it implicitly created. packages. This way, removing the last font package that installs some font subdirectory of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts will also remove the font subdirectory itself. Yes, and this makes sense. However, because of this, there can be no package which has a Requires: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, because this directory isn't provided or owned by a package. That's incorrect. Because the packages explicitly install this directory, any package will satisfy this dependency. Try it, it actually works as advertised. Would you accept a patch to the spec which makes this a conditional requirement, so that packages built on a Mandrake machine do not have this? I'll accept a patch that checks for a Mandrake distro, and makes the necessary adjustments. You should be able to come up with something that does not depend on an external flag, and detects a Mandrake distro automatically. -- Sam --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ courier-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
