[Coworking] Re: Cubes Crayons (WAS Re: [Coworking] New member introduction)

2008-02-20 Thread rainesc

Felicity -

Welcome to Coworking! That's a great vision you've got with Cubes 
Crayons, very empowering for parents who otherwise wouldn't have as
many options and who still face barriers in workforce integration,
even in the progressive, welcoming coworking movement, where in the
pioneering spaces, a mostly younger, mostly male (mostly nonparent?)
workforce has not (so far as I've seen) had childcare and the needs of
families as an explicit priority. Here's a couple of notes from a
quick trip 'round your website, worth what you paid for 'em:

- If you want to be a part of the coworking movement (and it does
sound like you've got  some valuable pieces of the puzzle, tools and
models that can inspire other spaces), it would be nice if your site
used the term and/or linked to other coworking sites. As it is, it
doesn't look like you have any outbound links at all, even in the
Press section. In my experience, the best way to get link love (web
pointers that lead to web traffic and therefore customers) is to give
it.

- The co-op workshare membership contribution element didn't show up
anywhere except in the FAQ and press articles (the rates page is kinda
sparse). This seems like an important aspect of your model, both in
terms of expectations of prospective members for their commitment and
in the customer service and child care received and who will be
involved in providing it. Given that even some non-kid-friendly
coworking spaces are talking about background/reference checks for
prospective members/keyholders, I'm curious whether this issue has
come up for members in terms of the childcare services. Its also not
clear whether the co-op hours requirement applies to office-only
members... could a non-parent be involved in childcare and related
areas?

I'm curious about all this because we run into a lot of similar issues
in the cohousing movement, and we're always looking for innovative
solutions. I hope to get down there soon for a visit.

- You might want to compare notes with MyDayOffice and other coworking
and related groups that have similar franchise multi-location
models... obviously, whole different sets of issues emerge related to
branding and staffing and management that are not as significant for
the D-I-Y cooperative one-off workspaces. Given regional variations in
space and childcare prices, as well as different regulatory schemes in
each state, I'd imagine that the rates won't be universal across all
of your spaces.

- I'd love to know whether your gender balance of members mirrors that
of other coworking spaces.

[the rest of this msg is less about coworking so everyone else can
feel free to ignore]

Technical and Typo and Territorial notes:

- The menus seem to behave oddly in Safari after the first minute or
so on a given page, unpopping before sub-items can be selected, and
then not responding to clicks on the main item. The Community page's
menus seem to work when others don't.

- In the Press section, Read more... links open a new window.. but
the Palo Alto Weekly article has a Return to Press section link at
the bottom that doesn't switch back to the original window or close
the new window.

- I had to read the PA Weekly article to get it (without doing the
math) that rates drop to as little as $9 an hour for members including
childcare... the membership info page might want to be a little bit
more explicit about the value.

- Typo in the Press section: tele-communtes has an extra n
- Typo in the Press section: choosed should be present tense
- Typo on the FAQ: What happens if I can't volunteers should be singular
- Typo on the House Rules page: recption missing an e

- While OnRamping and OffRamping sounds interesting; there's no link
or context on the Community page's workshops  events calendar to fill
in somebody who hadn't heard of it before. It helped once I discovered
that your founder's blog is at http://YourOnRamp.com/ (a side note
there: a blog that doesn't display dates for posts and then references
current events can be a bit confusing.. and there isn't anything
obvious over there that I could find actually referencing those
terms Google eventually led me to
http://www.youronramp.com/youronramp-presents-onramping-offramping-workshops-menlo-park
but there's still nothing linking to actual definitions of the terms
of what the workshop includes. I eventually found a definition in a
Boston Globe article. Maybe this is Human Resources jargon? WIkipedia
has it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-Ramping -- although
IMNSHO the entry has issues related to NPOV and promotion of the
particular website)

Raines Cohen, Coworking Coach / Cohousing Coach
Planning for Sustainable Communities
in Berkeley, CA

who recently learned at a National Aging In Place Council meeting in
Denver that some large employers are setting up ELDERCARE facilities
to help employees who are taking lots of time off work to care for
family members and in web surfing for alternative options. Perhaps
there's a 

[Coworking] Introduction

2008-02-20 Thread Barbara

Hi! I'm Barbara, and I'm a freelance consultant. I've had a concept
for co-working, as it would really fit my needs - I rarely need an
office, but when I do it would be nice to have something where I could
meet with clients, take the (rare) fax, that kind of thing.
Probably because management consulting is my field, I'm interested in
the details. How do those of you with active co-working spaces manage
the niceties - making sure the place is cleaned now and then, dealing
with bad actors, that sort of thing? I'd like to set up such a space
in a year or so, but want to be prepare for and avoid and pitfalls
from the onset.
Thanks for any help!

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[Coworking] Re: Introduction

2008-02-20 Thread Tara Hunt
The way we handle our situation is to carefully choose who are our tenants.
People have to be the right 'fit' and drop into the space for a while before
we let them rent. We haven't really had any situations because of that.

T

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi! I'm Barbara, and I'm a freelance consultant. I've had a concept
 for co-working, as it would really fit my needs - I rarely need an
 office, but when I do it would be nice to have something where I could
 meet with clients, take the (rare) fax, that kind of thing.
 Probably because management consulting is my field, I'm interested in
 the details. How do those of you with active co-working spaces manage
 the niceties - making sure the place is cleaned now and then, dealing
 with bad actors, that sort of thing? I'd like to set up such a space
 in a year or so, but want to be prepare for and avoid and pitfalls
 from the onset.
 Thanks for any help!

 



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blog: www.horsepigcow.com
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fax: 415-727-5335

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[Coworking] Re: Introduction

2008-02-20 Thread Alex Hillman
Similar to Citizen Agency (but not quite), IndyHall encourages folks to sign
up for one of our lower-level memberships (basic or lite) or even just work
on a day rate before we sign them up with a full time desk. This helps makes
sure that we're the right fit for them, they're the right fit for us, and
we're the right fit for them. Not only is coworking not for everyone, but
every coworking community is different and has different expectations and
dynamics, so we carry no hard feelings if things don't fit.

To date, though, we've had no problems as well! Community as a core
moderator is the key. Since one of the aspects of community is respect, that
mutual respect for each other and the space in which we inhabit keeps
problems at bay.

-Alex, IndyHall, Philadelphia

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Tara Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The way we handle our situation is to carefully choose who are our
 tenants. People have to be the right 'fit' and drop into the space for a
 while before we let them rent. We haven't really had any situations because
 of that.

 T

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Hi! I'm Barbara, and I'm a freelance consultant. I've had a concept
  for co-working, as it would really fit my needs - I rarely need an
  office, but when I do it would be nice to have something where I could
  meet with clients, take the (rare) fax, that kind of thing.
  Probably because management consulting is my field, I'm interested in
  the details. How do those of you with active co-working spaces manage
  the niceties - making sure the place is cleaned now and then, dealing
  with bad actors, that sort of thing? I'd like to set up such a space
  in a year or so, but want to be prepare for and avoid and pitfalls
  from the onset.
  Thanks for any help!
 
 
 


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 coFounder
 Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com)
 blog: www.horsepigcow.com
 phone: 415-694-1951
 fax: 415-727-5335

 



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[Coworking] Re: Introduction

2008-02-20 Thread Raines Cohen
What Tara said. ;-)
Seriously, I actually just came from a cohousing neighbor's meeting with a
property-management agency that she's looking to hire to handle renting out
her cottage since she finds it frustrating to deal with the details or wait
for late rent checks. Their approach was straightforward: run credit checks
and look for monthly income at least 3x the rent, and apply their own
intuition and experience as to whether the person based on that data will be
reliable in paying the rent and not trashing the place.

It's the same thing with coworking, kinda: Develop a vision. Test that
vision in the market, collaborating for input (because it may be a great
vision, but the world or at least your particular neighborhood/city may not
be ready for it). Find others who share it, and engage in activities that
help people discover capacities in each other (and maybe themselves), build
confidence and trust, and combine forces and resources to get the particular
venture off the ground, drawing on and contributing to the larger movement
for leverage, support, feedback, and cross-pollination.

And from that solid base, go forth with the confidence that you don't have
to embrace and tie your success (or making next month's rent) to the next
person who walks in the door... yes, you want to create an on-ramp, to
make it easy for people to get familiar with what you do, and for you to get
to know them. The screening you need to do is mutual.. are they willing to
take the risk to be part of your venture? (and are you doing enough to
reduce/manage the risk so someone with a less adventuresome personality will
feel comfortable joining you?) How much will it be able to meet their needs
if it was crafted based on yours? How much are they sharing in the risk...
and in potential gains? Are you using effective decision-making tools and
processes so you aren't killing yourself (or losing your family) in the
process? Is there a balance, is what they'll be looking for, if you're
looking for people who have a balanced approach to life.

Yes, we are exploring being pioneers in new ventures, breaking new ground,
embracing new opportunities for co-creation. But that doesn't mean we need
to throw out hundreds of years of business experience  in processes to limit
risks of taking on partners/tenants/clients/etc., or thousands of years of
experience of human group dynamics and community formation

Raines, your neighborhood Coworking Coach, Cohousing Coach, and *Camp
Counselor

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[Coworking] Re: Introduction

2008-02-20 Thread David Doolin

Raines,

This is damn good advice for starting any venture!

Thanks for such an elegant summary.

-dave d

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Raines Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What Tara said. ;-)

 Seriously, I actually just came from a cohousing neighbor's meeting with a
 property-management agency that she's looking to hire to handle renting out
 her cottage since she finds it frustrating to deal with the details or wait
 for late rent checks. Their approach was straightforward: run credit checks
 and look for monthly income at least 3x the rent, and apply their own
 intuition and experience as to whether the person based on that data will be
 reliable in paying the rent and not trashing the place.

 It's the same thing with coworking, kinda: Develop a vision. Test that
 vision in the market, collaborating for input (because it may be a great
 vision, but the world or at least your particular neighborhood/city may not
 be ready for it). Find others who share it, and engage in activities that
 help people discover capacities in each other (and maybe themselves), build
 confidence and trust, and combine forces and resources to get the particular
 venture off the ground, drawing on and contributing to the larger movement
 for leverage, support, feedback, and cross-pollination.

 And from that solid base, go forth with the confidence that you don't have
 to embrace and tie your success (or making next month's rent) to the next
 person who walks in the door... yes, you want to create an on-ramp, to
 make it easy for people to get familiar with what you do, and for you to get
 to know them. The screening you need to do is mutual.. are they willing to
 take the risk to be part of your venture? (and are you doing enough to
 reduce/manage the risk so someone with a less adventuresome personality will
 feel comfortable joining you?) How much will it be able to meet their needs
 if it was crafted based on yours? How much are they sharing in the risk...
 and in potential gains? Are you using effective decision-making tools and
 processes so you aren't killing yourself (or losing your family) in the
 process? Is there a balance, is what they'll be looking for, if you're
 looking for people who have a balanced approach to life.

 Yes, we are exploring being pioneers in new ventures, breaking new ground,
 embracing new opportunities for co-creation. But that doesn't mean we need
 to throw out hundreds of years of business experience  in processes to limit
 risks of taking on partners/tenants/clients/etc., or thousands of years of
 experience of human group dynamics and community formation

 Raines, your neighborhood Coworking Coach, Cohousing Coach, and *Camp
 Counselor


  




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[Coworking] Re: Introduction

2008-02-20 Thread Alex Hillman
Agreed, Raines is on the ball here. I'll be starring this email for future
thoughts and reference!

-Alex

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:46 PM, David Doolin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Raines,

 This is damn good advice for starting any venture!

 Thanks for such an elegant summary.

 -dave d

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Raines Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What Tara said. ;-)
 
  Seriously, I actually just came from a cohousing neighbor's meeting with
 a
  property-management agency that she's looking to hire to handle renting
 out
  her cottage since she finds it frustrating to deal with the details or
 wait
  for late rent checks. Their approach was straightforward: run credit
 checks
  and look for monthly income at least 3x the rent, and apply their own
  intuition and experience as to whether the person based on that data
 will be
  reliable in paying the rent and not trashing the place.
 
  It's the same thing with coworking, kinda: Develop a vision. Test that
  vision in the market, collaborating for input (because it may be a great
  vision, but the world or at least your particular neighborhood/city may
 not
  be ready for it). Find others who share it, and engage in activities
 that
  help people discover capacities in each other (and maybe themselves),
 build
  confidence and trust, and combine forces and resources to get the
 particular
  venture off the ground, drawing on and contributing to the larger
 movement
  for leverage, support, feedback, and cross-pollination.
 
  And from that solid base, go forth with the confidence that you don't
 have
  to embrace and tie your success (or making next month's rent) to the
 next
  person who walks in the door... yes, you want to create an on-ramp, to
  make it easy for people to get familiar with what you do, and for you to
 get
  to know them. The screening you need to do is mutual.. are they willing
 to
  take the risk to be part of your venture? (and are you doing enough to
  reduce/manage the risk so someone with a less adventuresome personality
 will
  feel comfortable joining you?) How much will it be able to meet their
 needs
  if it was crafted based on yours? How much are they sharing in the
 risk...
  and in potential gains? Are you using effective decision-making tools
 and
  processes so you aren't killing yourself (or losing your family) in the
  process? Is there a balance, is what they'll be looking for, if you're
  looking for people who have a balanced approach to life.
 
  Yes, we are exploring being pioneers in new ventures, breaking new
 ground,
  embracing new opportunities for co-creation. But that doesn't mean we
 need
  to throw out hundreds of years of business experience  in processes to
 limit
  risks of taking on partners/tenants/clients/etc., or thousands of years
 of
  experience of human group dynamics and community formation
 
  Raines, your neighborhood Coworking Coach, Cohousing Coach, and *Camp
  Counselor
 
 
   
 



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