[Coworking] Re: What's your Twitter name?
Thanks, Tony. Cubes&Crayons @cubesandcrayons @felicityatcubes -Felicity Cubes&Crayons On Feb 23, 7:29 am, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: > [oops, sent an old version... see updated version below!] > > This would make for a great wiki page. > > Hopefully I can spare us all some emails: > > *New Work City* = @nwc > Me = @tonybgoode > Sanford Dickert = @sanford > > *Jelly* = @workatjelly > Amit Gupta = @superamit > > *Berkeley Coworking* = @berkeleycowork > Raines Cohen = @raines > His "coworking coach" account = @coworkingcoach > > *Citizen Space* = @citizenspace > Tara Hunt = @missrogue > Hillary Hartley = @quepol > Jade Rossdale = @jaderossdale > Chris Messina = @factoryjoe > > *IndyHall* = @indyhall > Alex Hillman = @alexknowshtml > Geoff DiMasi = @geoffd > Bart Mroz = @bartmroz > > *LaunchPad Coworking* > Julie Gomoll = @juliegomoll > > *Caroline Collective* = @carolineco > Matthew Wettergreen = @organ_printer > Erica O'Grady = @ericaogrady > > *Souk Portland* = @soukportland > > *Conjunctured* = @conjunctured > John Erik Metcalf = @johnerik > Dusty Reagan = @dustyreagan > Cesar Torres = @cesart > > *I'm Outta Here *book authors: > Drew Jones = @drewjones > Todd Sundsted = @todd_sundsted > > There are many more, but that's a start! > > Tony > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM, BrianR wrote: > > > My name on twitter is @brianr. The coworking space I run is > > @carrborocowork. > > I'd like to keep up with what ya'll are doing. :) > > -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
Fantastic thread! thanks to everyone who responded I have tried to absorb what was said and I will hopefully put this advice to good use. I'm going to look into community interaction and think about hosting/participating in democamps as well as finding out more about "jelly" sessions. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:48 PM, turbo2ltr wrote: > > As someone who "put the cart before the horse", I would agree with > Alex, don't worry about the business plan at this point, get the > people first, then the business plan will define itself. I made this > mistake and now I have a space that is open but has no users (yet). > > -Mike > > > On Feb 25, 10:36 am, Matthew Wettergreen > wrote: > > This coworking group exists because we've all learned a wealth of > > knowledge from each other and have a firm commitment to the greater > > community to in turn help everyone achieve success and sustainability. > > Over the past three years (congratulations everyone), this sharing has > > cemented the methodology for opening a successful coworking space. > > Followed properly these steps are financially low-risk and move at the > > pace of the community's needs. By jumping steps or opening a coworking > > space in a vacuum you're making a high-risk move that could result in > > something nobody wants, financial loss or worse, the closing of your > > space. > > > > These low-risk steps start with going out into the community and > > talking about coworking but mostly listening (this is something that > > Alex mentions again and again as being important) which will help you > > discover what the needs and desires of the community are. If there is > > no community then you build one through jellys or meetups. Once you > > have the support of the community the next low-risk step would be > > getting a commitment (not necessarily financial immediately) out of > > the people who will become your anchors when you find a space. The > > next low-risk step would be to document your search for a space based > > on the stated needs of the community. With the community behind an > > idea you're less likely to take a financial or business bath when you > > open the space. Additional low-risk steps that relate to financials > > would be to build based on the usage of your community, ie not > > spending money on superfluous equipment until demonstrated need. > > > > Low-risk steps and high transparency to your community and to the > > google coworking group are essential for all of this. By doing this > > you can immediately avoid problems like an empty space or thinking you > > need an advertising or marketing budget to make your space successful. > > By dropping a space into the landscape and saying "it's here, everyone > > come" you're not only taking high-risk but you're working backwards > > from a PROVEN methodology that will allow you to open with a path > > towards success and a leg up towards sustainability. The most > > successful coworking spaces have been the ones who have been the most > > open with their process to both of these communities from the > > beginning.Tara and Alex and Jacob and others were incredibly helpful > > in the infancy of Caroline Collective preventing us from taking > > financial or community missteps that could result in reduced success > > for the space. > > > > I dont' think anyone's arguing against forming a strategy but forming > > a business plan for a coworking space before having a community behind > > it might be putting the cart in front of the horse. A business plan if > > eventually needed, should be simple because you can cull from > > discussions with the community: the ones who will ultimately utilize > > the coworking space, financially contribute, provide sweat equity and > > ultimately evangelize the virtues of coworking. From another > > standpoint, you already have a dynamic business plan and business > > advisors: this google group, several posts by members of the coworking > > community and the coworking wiki. There's enough information in those > > places as well as the wealth of resources from the voices on the > > google group that can help overcome any problem that people will come > > up against. But this is only if you are open and transparent about > > these problems. > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > Matthew Wettergreen, Ph.D > > coFounder - Caroline Collectivehttp://carolinecollective.cc > > > > cell: 713.825.4613 > > email: mwettergr...@gmail.com > > twitter: organ_printerhttp://matthewwettergreen.com > > -- > > > > On Feb 25, 9:59 am, Alex Hillman wrote: > > > > > Susan, > > > Your point that every market is different is exactly the point I'm > making: > > > not that you should go in unplanned, but a traditional business plan > > > template isn't going to properly serve a venture like this in my > opinion. > > > > > The plan you described: *bullet points & flexible goals*, and I'll even > go > > > so far as to define a *mantra* or set of *core values,* is going to > help y
[Coworking] Re: What's your Twitter name?
Hey all, Great thread indeed; just remember to also add your info to the wiki page! Tony On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:18 PM, "M. Kathryn Stern" wrote: > @water_girl also joining the group. I'm from Austin, TX and we've > got a couple of coworking spaces here, but this community can > support more and I have an interest in making that happen. You all > have provided some invaluable information here. Much Thanks! See > you at SXSW! > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Alex Hillman > wrote: > Tony already shared my username, @alexknowshtml, Geoff's, @geoffd, > and @indyhall. > > I just wanted to say that this is one of the neatest threads in the > group I've seen in a long time. Awesome idea. > > -Alex > > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful: www.unstick.me > visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, JR Moreau > wrote: > > @jrmoreau is my Twitter name. Trying to start a co-working space in > Worcester, MA! > > On Feb 23, 10:14 am, BrianR wrote: > > My name on twitter is @brianr. The coworking space I run is > > @carrborocowork. > > I'd like to keep up with what ya'll are doing. :) > > -Brian > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: New space in SLC...we're just getting started!
That's great Tyler! I've been creating a community of coworkers here in SLC, we are currently looking for a space. I didn't see a link to your blog in that post, but here's a link to our site. Http://montagecoworking.com Let's connect on this. Drew 801.529.8479 @knite20 Drew[at]montagecoworking.com On Feb 25, 12:29 am, Tyler SLC wrote: > Hello all! My partner and I have just stumbled upon an amazing > opportunity to create a cowork space. We're leasing a building -and > the owner loves the concept and is being very accommodating- in Salt > Lake City. We're in the beginning phases and are really excited. Ok, > I'll admit that I'm also a little overwhelmed. Our focus is on artists > and creative entrepreneurs. Check out our blog - which should have > pictures momentarily - to see our amazing building. Any advice or > guidance would be very much appreciated. Looking forward to learning > from you all and hearing about your endeavors! > > Best, > > Tyler --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
As someone who "put the cart before the horse", I would agree with Alex, don't worry about the business plan at this point, get the people first, then the business plan will define itself. I made this mistake and now I have a space that is open but has no users (yet). -Mike On Feb 25, 10:36 am, Matthew Wettergreen wrote: > This coworking group exists because we've all learned a wealth of > knowledge from each other and have a firm commitment to the greater > community to in turn help everyone achieve success and sustainability. > Over the past three years (congratulations everyone), this sharing has > cemented the methodology for opening a successful coworking space. > Followed properly these steps are financially low-risk and move at the > pace of the community's needs. By jumping steps or opening a coworking > space in a vacuum you're making a high-risk move that could result in > something nobody wants, financial loss or worse, the closing of your > space. > > These low-risk steps start with going out into the community and > talking about coworking but mostly listening (this is something that > Alex mentions again and again as being important) which will help you > discover what the needs and desires of the community are. If there is > no community then you build one through jellys or meetups. Once you > have the support of the community the next low-risk step would be > getting a commitment (not necessarily financial immediately) out of > the people who will become your anchors when you find a space. The > next low-risk step would be to document your search for a space based > on the stated needs of the community. With the community behind an > idea you're less likely to take a financial or business bath when you > open the space. Additional low-risk steps that relate to financials > would be to build based on the usage of your community, ie not > spending money on superfluous equipment until demonstrated need. > > Low-risk steps and high transparency to your community and to the > google coworking group are essential for all of this. By doing this > you can immediately avoid problems like an empty space or thinking you > need an advertising or marketing budget to make your space successful. > By dropping a space into the landscape and saying "it's here, everyone > come" you're not only taking high-risk but you're working backwards > from a PROVEN methodology that will allow you to open with a path > towards success and a leg up towards sustainability. The most > successful coworking spaces have been the ones who have been the most > open with their process to both of these communities from the > beginning.Tara and Alex and Jacob and others were incredibly helpful > in the infancy of Caroline Collective preventing us from taking > financial or community missteps that could result in reduced success > for the space. > > I dont' think anyone's arguing against forming a strategy but forming > a business plan for a coworking space before having a community behind > it might be putting the cart in front of the horse. A business plan if > eventually needed, should be simple because you can cull from > discussions with the community: the ones who will ultimately utilize > the coworking space, financially contribute, provide sweat equity and > ultimately evangelize the virtues of coworking. From another > standpoint, you already have a dynamic business plan and business > advisors: this google group, several posts by members of the coworking > community and the coworking wiki. There's enough information in those > places as well as the wealth of resources from the voices on the > google group that can help overcome any problem that people will come > up against. But this is only if you are open and transparent about > these problems. > > Matthew > > -- > Matthew Wettergreen, Ph.D > coFounder - Caroline Collectivehttp://carolinecollective.cc > > cell: 713.825.4613 > email: mwettergr...@gmail.com > twitter: organ_printerhttp://matthewwettergreen.com > -- > > On Feb 25, 9:59 am, Alex Hillman wrote: > > > Susan, > > Your point that every market is different is exactly the point I'm making: > > not that you should go in unplanned, but a traditional business plan > > template isn't going to properly serve a venture like this in my opinion. > > > The plan you described: *bullet points & flexible goals*, and I'll even go > > so far as to define a *mantra* or set of *core values,* is going to help you > > have the check points for making decisions along the way. > > > Planning is extremely important, and running your coworking space like a > > business is important for your sustainability. > > > Just be ready for that plan to change once new people enter the mix :) > > > -Alex > > > -- > > - > > -- > > - > > Alex Hillman > > im always developing something > > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > > helpful:www.unstick.me > > visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com > > local:www.indyhall.org > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 20
[Coworking] Re: What's your Twitter name?
@water_girl also joining the group. I'm from Austin, TX and we've got a couple of coworking spaces here, but this community can support more and I have an interest in making that happen. You all have provided some invaluable information here. Much Thanks! See you at SXSW! On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Alex Hillman wrote: > Tony already shared my username, @alexknowshtml, Geoff's, @geoffd, and > @indyhall. > > I just wanted to say that this is one of the neatest threads in the group > I've seen in a long time. Awesome idea. > > -Alex > > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful: www.unstick.me > visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, JR Moreau wrote: > >> >> @jrmoreau is my Twitter name. Trying to start a co-working space in >> Worcester, MA! >> >> On Feb 23, 10:14 am, BrianR wrote: >> > My name on twitter is @brianr. The coworking space I run is >> > @carrborocowork. >> > I'd like to keep up with what ya'll are doing. :) >> > -Brian >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: What's your Twitter name?
Tony already shared my username, @alexknowshtml, Geoff's, @geoffd, and @indyhall. I just wanted to say that this is one of the neatest threads in the group I've seen in a long time. Awesome idea. -Alex -- - -- - Alex Hillman im always developing something digital: a...@weknowhtml.com helpful: www.unstick.me visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:50 PM, JR Moreau wrote: > > @jrmoreau is my Twitter name. Trying to start a co-working space in > Worcester, MA! > > On Feb 23, 10:14 am, BrianR wrote: > > My name on twitter is @brianr. The coworking space I run is > > @carrborocowork. > > I'd like to keep up with what ya'll are doing. :) > > -Brian > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Reservation systems - what works for you?
I looked at both of these, totally user un-friendly. I wouldn't come to IndyHall if they were the thing between me and a desk. The software needs to be as pleasant of an experience to use as the space, in my opinion. -Alex -- - -- - Alex Hillman im always developing something digital: a...@weknowhtml.com helpful: www.unstick.me visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM, BrianR wrote: > > In my search for reservation software I came across these. > > PHPScheduleIT > http://www.php.brickhost.com/index.php > > MRBS > http://mrbs.sourceforge.net/ > > Both are install it yourself PHP/MySQL applications. Both have awfully > GUIs. Both are free and OpenSource. > > Anyone use these? If so are users able to navigate the system? > > Thanks, > -BrianR > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Little Hill --- El Cerrito East Bay --- Jelly today 11 - 4 33 Revolution Cafe
If you're interested in a Jelly group in the Albany, El Cerrito, Richmond, N. Berkeley CA area, meet today at http://www.33revolutions.com/ 33 Rev is an excellent venue: Ritual coffee, couple of blocks from BART, the owner plays jazz from his *extensive* collection of vinyl. Charles Earland "Living Black" spinning right now. Come on down! -dave d --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: What's your Twitter name?
@jrmoreau is my Twitter name. Trying to start a co-working space in Worcester, MA! On Feb 23, 10:14 am, BrianR wrote: > My name on twitter is @brianr. The coworking space I run is > @carrborocowork. > I'd like to keep up with what ya'll are doing. :) > -Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] New space in SLC...we're just getting started!
Hello all! My partner and I have just stumbled upon an amazing opportunity to create a cowork space. We're leasing a building -and the owner loves the concept and is being very accommodating- in Salt Lake City. We're in the beginning phases and are really excited. Ok, I'll admit that I'm also a little overwhelmed. Our focus is on artists and creative entrepreneurs. Check out our blog - which should have pictures momentarily - to see our amazing building. Any advice or guidance would be very much appreciated. Looking forward to learning from you all and hearing about your endeavors! Best, Tyler --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: I'm Outta Here! - Book about coworking
Speaking of SXSW. If anyone is looking for a place to stay, please let me know. Interested in renting out my space. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: > Chris, > That's a deal :-) I'll get my Sharpie ready! > > Tony > > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Chris Stewart wrote: > >> >> Hi Tony, >> >>Thanks to you, Todd, and Drew for putting this book together. I've >> been needing a resource to easily communicate the coworking concept to >> leaders and influencers in my community, as I'm really wanting to >> build a coworking space in Cedar Hill, about 15 minutes outh of >> Dallas. I've picked up three copies to start; hopefully I'll get them >> autographed if the three of you make it to SXSW next month. :) >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Chris >> >> On Feb 20, 4:38 pm, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: >> > Hey everybody! >> > >> > As many of you know, I've been working with Todd Sundsted and Drew Jones >> on >> > a book that centers on the coworking concept. >> > >> > I'm happy to say that, after over a year of researching, writing, >> rewriting, >> > editing, laying out, and editing some more, we're ready to share the >> book >> > with you all! >> > >> > The book is called *I'm Outta Here: How coworking is making the office >> > obsolete*, and you can get it here:http://imouttaherethebook.com >> > >> > It's meant to be a relatively simple introduction to the coworking >> concept >> > and an exploration into its significance in the overall workplace. Each >> page >> > is a short vignette that describes one aspect, whether a coworking >> space, or >> > an individual, or a short story. >> > >> > In addition to the actual book, we've created pages on our site that >> > correspond to each page in the book, where you will be able to find more >> > information and references corresponding to each piece. We also want to >> use >> > each of these pages so get readers' feedback and comments, so the site >> can >> > act as a bridge between the book and the rest of the great stuff that's >> > happening online. >> > >> > While we cover a lot of spaces and people, there's so much more out >> there >> > that we'd love to include in the future, so we're hoping that with your >> > feedback, we can release an updated version of the book at some point in >> the >> > future. >> > >> > Researching for the book has been an incredibly eye-opening experience, >> and >> > I have to say that the more I learn about this wonderful movement, the >> more >> > I believe that coworking is an important part of a fundamental shift >> that's >> > taking place in the way we think about the way we work and live, and >> this >> > change is all for the better. >> > >> > I count myself lucky that Drew and Todd asked me to join them on this >> > journey, and I'm excited to be sharing our work with you now. >> > >> > Much more as we go! >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Tony >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
This coworking group exists because we've all learned a wealth of knowledge from each other and have a firm commitment to the greater community to in turn help everyone achieve success and sustainability. Over the past three years (congratulations everyone), this sharing has cemented the methodology for opening a successful coworking space. Followed properly these steps are financially low-risk and move at the pace of the community's needs. By jumping steps or opening a coworking space in a vacuum you're making a high-risk move that could result in something nobody wants, financial loss or worse, the closing of your space. These low-risk steps start with going out into the community and talking about coworking but mostly listening (this is something that Alex mentions again and again as being important) which will help you discover what the needs and desires of the community are. If there is no community then you build one through jellys or meetups. Once you have the support of the community the next low-risk step would be getting a commitment (not necessarily financial immediately) out of the people who will become your anchors when you find a space. The next low-risk step would be to document your search for a space based on the stated needs of the community. With the community behind an idea you're less likely to take a financial or business bath when you open the space. Additional low-risk steps that relate to financials would be to build based on the usage of your community, ie not spending money on superfluous equipment until demonstrated need. Low-risk steps and high transparency to your community and to the google coworking group are essential for all of this. By doing this you can immediately avoid problems like an empty space or thinking you need an advertising or marketing budget to make your space successful. By dropping a space into the landscape and saying "it's here, everyone come" you're not only taking high-risk but you're working backwards from a PROVEN methodology that will allow you to open with a path towards success and a leg up towards sustainability. The most successful coworking spaces have been the ones who have been the most open with their process to both of these communities from the beginning.Tara and Alex and Jacob and others were incredibly helpful in the infancy of Caroline Collective preventing us from taking financial or community missteps that could result in reduced success for the space. I dont' think anyone's arguing against forming a strategy but forming a business plan for a coworking space before having a community behind it might be putting the cart in front of the horse. A business plan if eventually needed, should be simple because you can cull from discussions with the community: the ones who will ultimately utilize the coworking space, financially contribute, provide sweat equity and ultimately evangelize the virtues of coworking. From another standpoint, you already have a dynamic business plan and business advisors: this google group, several posts by members of the coworking community and the coworking wiki. There's enough information in those places as well as the wealth of resources from the voices on the google group that can help overcome any problem that people will come up against. But this is only if you are open and transparent about these problems. Matthew -- Matthew Wettergreen, Ph.D coFounder - Caroline Collective http://carolinecollective.cc cell: 713.825.4613 email: mwettergr...@gmail.com twitter: organ_printer http://matthewwettergreen.com -- On Feb 25, 9:59 am, Alex Hillman wrote: > Susan, > Your point that every market is different is exactly the point I'm making: > not that you should go in unplanned, but a traditional business plan > template isn't going to properly serve a venture like this in my opinion. > > The plan you described: *bullet points & flexible goals*, and I'll even go > so far as to define a *mantra* or set of *core values,* is going to help you > have the check points for making decisions along the way. > > Planning is extremely important, and running your coworking space like a > business is important for your sustainability. > > Just be ready for that plan to change once new people enter the mix :) > > -Alex > > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful:www.unstick.me > visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local:www.indyhall.org > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Susan Potter < > > su...@acropolisproperties.com> wrote: > > While I completely agree with Alex that walking in to a bank with financial > > statements that show revenue already coming in is far better than going into > > a bank with an idea, a business plan should be used a tool by business > > owners. I am not sure about Alex's business/startup experiences, but as > > someone who has started a number of ventures from scratch I have found > > having a basic business plan (ju
[Coworking] Coworking in A-Town
Hi All, My name is Kathryn Stern and I am in the research and development phase of launching a coworking site here in Austin, Texas. We have one active site and another in process. I hope to add to the mix at the beginning of 2010. I am enjoying following your dialogue on GoogleGroups, and the Coworking Institute site has also been a valuable tool. Thank you, KStern --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
> > Just be ready for that plan to change once new people enter the mix :) Thanks for clarifying, I think we agree then. "Change happens", which is why I always keep my business plans in a bullet point list so that I am willing to let the plan evolve and update it whenever I need to. Making it wordy usually makes people less inclined to update the plan when it needs to. Do whatever works for you, everyone is different. It doesn't need to be formal. People I meet that are writing their first (or even second) business plan that come to me for advise always try to make this super formal and complex. Remember you are writing this for yourself. Put whatever obsceneities you want in the plan if that is the language that helps you think (who is anyone else to judge). Just brush it up if/when you do want to get others (like lenders, etc.) involved. Now that I understand Alex's stance I totally agree that blindly using a Coworking business template is not going to help anyone, except maybe to find a sucker to invest or lend money to you (although in this lending environment in US you'll need good luck with that one any way). A general business template is helpful for those that have never written a business plan before to give them an idea of what to think about. As you get better at the process you'll have your own template that you write out in your own way. Don't be a robot business plan writer. Otherwise the business will diverge completely away from what *you* really want it to be about and you'll be stuck in a 9-5 type of job you hate again (assuming you ever were a permanent employee) or perhaps even a 9-9 job that you resent from the core of your soul. Of course, your plan needs to evolve as you get more feedback (prospect/customer opinions/suggestions, data, etc.), but always use your own ideas and incorporate your own style into the mix along with the community of "customers" you want to build. All great businesses today from local to global build communities in and around their customer base to some degree with coworking this goes needs to go to the extreme. You can't do that with a boilerplate business plan that someone else wrote and you just filled in the blanks. The people that emailed me privately (yes there was more than one) to share my business plan with them take note!:) Best, Susan Susan Potter Collective Turf Coworking Urbana, IL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Reservation systems - what works for you?
In my search for reservation software I came across these. PHPScheduleIT http://www.php.brickhost.com/index.php MRBS http://mrbs.sourceforge.net/ Both are install it yourself PHP/MySQL applications. Both have awfully GUIs. Both are free and OpenSource. Anyone use these? If so are users able to navigate the system? Thanks, -BrianR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
Susan, Alex - Another way to think about this discussion is that one must conduct research prior to writing a business plan. If Trevor were to sit down and write a business plan now, what would he write, exactly? With what raw data and information would he populate this template? Would the product be anything other than speculation? By contrast, if he makes some effort to hold some regular Jelly sessions, talks to his stakeholders about what locations, venues, and values would drive the proposed coworking community, he would actually have something substantive, true, and verifiable to talk about in his business plan. The argument against taking action without having a business plan is that one will squander resources and fly rudderless; however, conducting the research of having Jelly sessions costs only time and can help verify whether his concept will work. In effect, the first and only step of his business plan right now ought to be to conduct market research. That all said, as an experienced entrepreneur and angel investor, I can attest to the fact that there is a time and a place for full-blown business plans, and coworking as a business is simple and straightforward enough that if you follow the simple step 1 of assessing sufficient demand, the rest truly will fall into place. The beauty of the coworking model is that unlike most businesses, it doesn't need to generate a profit stream, so as a result, the planning necessary beyond the hard work of community building is comparably limited. However, your mileage and community may vary; and as Alex said, because your community DOES have its own DNA, you need to take the time to understand it by conducting rigorous research in the form of Jellies, camps, and tweetups. Otherwise, you're truly flying blind. Dave On Feb 25, 10:59 am, Alex Hillman wrote: > Susan, > Your point that every market is different is exactly the point I'm making: > not that you should go in unplanned, but a traditional business plan > template isn't going to properly serve a venture like this in my opinion. > > The plan you described: *bullet points & flexible goals*, and I'll even go > so far as to define a *mantra* or set of *core values,* is going to help you > have the check points for making decisions along the way. > > Planning is extremely important, and running your coworking space like a > business is important for your sustainability. > > Just be ready for that plan to change once new people enter the mix :) > > -Alex > > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful:www.unstick.me > visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local:www.indyhall.org > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Susan Potter < > > > > su...@acropolisproperties.com> wrote: > > While I completely agree with Alex that walking in to a bank with financial > > statements that show revenue already coming in is far better than going into > > a bank with an idea, a business plan should be used a tool by business > > owners. I am not sure about Alex's business/startup experiences, but as > > someone who has started a number of ventures from scratch I have found > > having a basic business plan (just in bullet point format for my own and > > partner reference) to be very beneficial, especially when you have partners. > > You might be able to "wing it" by chance or because you have the right > > connections, but if you don't have connections on your side, basic > > preparation is key no matter what business you want to start. > > > There isn't just one exact model for a coworking space or any business idea > > out there, there are multiple and every situation will likely be different. > > I am not suggestion you violate the notion that a coworking space is about > > the people - not at all. > > > Each market (in this case physical location and target audience) has > > slightly different needs (i.e. in larger cities people might be > > willing to travel 20 miles to a coworking space - in a small college town > > that would NEVER fly without anything *very* different about the offering, I > > don't know what though?). Also while the target markets for all coworking > > spaces might seem to be the exact same in every location, I don't think that > > is true. For example, I know in some areas there are large numbers of tech > > freelancers (e.g. SF bay area and Raleigh-Durham both places I have lived > > and worked in before - not to mention Boston, DC metro, etc), whereas in > > other areas the types of freelancers will be less tech more professionally > > oriented (e.g. architects, lawyers, designers, etc.). Having a plan to > > target the specific target audiences that are relevant to your area is > > definitely a good idea. It helps you think through things like "who do I > > really want to attract to my space to make it a better experience for all > > involved", which creates a better overall ambiance and will be the backbone >
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
Susan, Your point that every market is different is exactly the point I'm making: not that you should go in unplanned, but a traditional business plan template isn't going to properly serve a venture like this in my opinion. The plan you described: *bullet points & flexible goals*, and I'll even go so far as to define a *mantra* or set of *core values,* is going to help you have the check points for making decisions along the way. Planning is extremely important, and running your coworking space like a business is important for your sustainability. Just be ready for that plan to change once new people enter the mix :) -Alex -- - -- - Alex Hillman im always developing something digital: a...@weknowhtml.com helpful: www.unstick.me visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Susan Potter < su...@acropolisproperties.com> wrote: > While I completely agree with Alex that walking in to a bank with financial > statements that show revenue already coming in is far better than going into > a bank with an idea, a business plan should be used a tool by business > owners. I am not sure about Alex's business/startup experiences, but as > someone who has started a number of ventures from scratch I have found > having a basic business plan (just in bullet point format for my own and > partner reference) to be very beneficial, especially when you have partners. > You might be able to "wing it" by chance or because you have the right > connections, but if you don't have connections on your side, basic > preparation is key no matter what business you want to start. > > There isn't just one exact model for a coworking space or any business idea > out there, there are multiple and every situation will likely be different. > I am not suggestion you violate the notion that a coworking space is about > the people - not at all. > > Each market (in this case physical location and target audience) has > slightly different needs (i.e. in larger cities people might be > willing to travel 20 miles to a coworking space - in a small college town > that would NEVER fly without anything *very* different about the offering, I > don't know what though?). Also while the target markets for all coworking > spaces might seem to be the exact same in every location, I don't think that > is true. For example, I know in some areas there are large numbers of tech > freelancers (e.g. SF bay area and Raleigh-Durham both places I have lived > and worked in before - not to mention Boston, DC metro, etc), whereas in > other areas the types of freelancers will be less tech more professionally > oriented (e.g. architects, lawyers, designers, etc.). Having a plan to > target the specific target audiences that are relevant to your area is > definitely a good idea. It helps you think through things like "who do I > really want to attract to my space to make it a better experience for all > involved", which creates a better overall ambiance and will be the backbone > of your longer-term success. > > Home grown spaces can work, in fact, many on this list have proved it can > work. However, that does not mean planning and preparation don't go a long > way too. I use business plans as a tool for organizing my thoughts and > addressing potential pitfalls before they show up. Since leaving the bay > area I have steered away from VCs and only occasionally sought loans from > banks or private investors, but I now always "write" a business plan if for > no one else than for myself. If you are using a business plan this way it > doesn't need to suck the soul out of a venture. > > Best, > Susan > -- > Susan Potter > Collective Turf Coworking > Urbana, IL USA > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Alex Hillman < > dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Trevor, >> Stop right there: >> You don't need a business plan just yet, you need some people. Those >> people will be your business plan. >> >> Yes, you could walk into a bank with a 10 page document explaining how and >> what you are going to do with their money...or you could walk in with signed >> checks from 10 paying members and say "see, they're already willing to pay >> for it". >> >> Developing the community before you think "business plan" is critical, >> because your business plan is likely to NOT jive with the people you're >> ultimately trying to reach. >> >> There are some great recent posts about community development roadmaps, >> and I have one that's a little more abstract that I crafted after seeing >> MILK at the end of last year: >> >> >> http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2008/12/22/a-roadmap-for-community-organization-and-mobilization-harvey-milk/ >> >> Good luck! >> >> -Alex >> -- >> - >> -- >> - >> Alex Hillman >> im always developing something >> digital: a...@weknowhtml.com >> helpful: www.unstick.me >> visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com >> local: www.indyhall.org >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:58
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
While I completely agree with Alex that walking in to a bank with financial statements that show revenue already coming in is far better than going into a bank with an idea, a business plan should be used a tool by business owners. I am not sure about Alex's business/startup experiences, but as someone who has started a number of ventures from scratch I have found having a basic business plan (just in bullet point format for my own and partner reference) to be very beneficial, especially when you have partners. You might be able to "wing it" by chance or because you have the right connections, but if you don't have connections on your side, basic preparation is key no matter what business you want to start. There isn't just one exact model for a coworking space or any business idea out there, there are multiple and every situation will likely be different. I am not suggestion you violate the notion that a coworking space is about the people - not at all. Each market (in this case physical location and target audience) has slightly different needs (i.e. in larger cities people might be willing to travel 20 miles to a coworking space - in a small college town that would NEVER fly without anything *very* different about the offering, I don't know what though?). Also while the target markets for all coworking spaces might seem to be the exact same in every location, I don't think that is true. For example, I know in some areas there are large numbers of tech freelancers (e.g. SF bay area and Raleigh-Durham both places I have lived and worked in before - not to mention Boston, DC metro, etc), whereas in other areas the types of freelancers will be less tech more professionally oriented (e.g. architects, lawyers, designers, etc.). Having a plan to target the specific target audiences that are relevant to your area is definitely a good idea. It helps you think through things like "who do I really want to attract to my space to make it a better experience for all involved", which creates a better overall ambiance and will be the backbone of your longer-term success. Home grown spaces can work, in fact, many on this list have proved it can work. However, that does not mean planning and preparation don't go a long way too. I use business plans as a tool for organizing my thoughts and addressing potential pitfalls before they show up. Since leaving the bay area I have steered away from VCs and only occasionally sought loans from banks or private investors, but I now always "write" a business plan if for no one else than for myself. If you are using a business plan this way it doesn't need to suck the soul out of a venture. Best, Susan -- Susan Potter Collective Turf Coworking Urbana, IL USA On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: > Trevor, > Stop right there: > You don't need a business plan just yet, you need some people. Those people > will be your business plan. > > Yes, you could walk into a bank with a 10 page document explaining how and > what you are going to do with their money...or you could walk in with signed > checks from 10 paying members and say "see, they're already willing to pay > for it". > > Developing the community before you think "business plan" is critical, > because your business plan is likely to NOT jive with the people you're > ultimately trying to reach. > > There are some great recent posts about community development roadmaps, and > I have one that's a little more abstract that I crafted after seeing MILK at > the end of last year: > > > http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2008/12/22/a-roadmap-for-community-organization-and-mobilization-harvey-milk/ > > Good luck! > > -Alex > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful: www.unstick.me > visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local: www.indyhall.org > > > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Trevor wrote: > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> My name is Trevor I live in Mississauga, Ontario which is very close >> to Toronto for those of you who aren't familiar with the area. I'm >> relatively new to the concept of coworking but I'm so excited that >> this exists. I have been thinking about creating my own space and I >> would like to start preparing a business plan. I don't really know how >> to get started writing a business plan are there any good templates to >> use? Can anyone suggest a good starting place? >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
thanks turbo I was able to find some links in the "Files" link. On Feb 25, 10:09 am, turbo2ltr wrote: > Hi Trevor, > > A great place to start is > here:http://www.google.com/search?q=business+plan+template > > If you search around, I think there is a coworking business plan or > two that have been published by people, but I don't have a link. > Searching this group using the search box at the top right will give > you a *lot* of good info from the great people here. > > Regards, > Mike Montalvowww.collablab.net > > On Feb 24, 2:58 pm, Trevor wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > My name is Trevor I live in Mississauga, Ontario which is very close > > to Toronto for those of you who aren't familiar with the area. I'm > > relatively new to the concept of coworking but I'm so excited that > > this exists. I have been thinking about creating my own space and I > > would like to start preparing a business plan. I don't really know how > > to get started writing a business plan are there any good templates to > > use? Can anyone suggest a good starting place?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
Thanks Alex! That is pretty good advice. I will start spreading the word and start thinking of ways to get involved in different events where I can spread the idea and see if there is any interest. I think I'll still attempt to draft up a business plan just to help me organize my thoughts. thanks again. On Feb 25, 10:19 am, Alex Hillman wrote: > Trevor, > Stop right there: > You don't need a business plan just yet, you need some people. Those people > will be your business plan. > > Yes, you could walk into a bank with a 10 page document explaining how and > what you are going to do with their money...or you could walk in with signed > checks from 10 paying members and say "see, they're already willing to pay > for it". > > Developing the community before you think "business plan" is critical, > because your business plan is likely to NOT jive with the people you're > ultimately trying to reach. > > There are some great recent posts about community development roadmaps, and > I have one that's a little more abstract that I crafted after seeing MILK at > the end of last year: > > http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2008/12/22/a-roadmap-for-community-... > > Good luck! > > -Alex > -- > - > -- > - > Alex Hillman > im always developing something > digital: a...@weknowhtml.com > helpful:www.unstick.me > visual:www.dangerouslyawesome.com > local:www.indyhall.org > > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Trevor wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > My name is Trevor I live in Mississauga, Ontario which is very close > > to Toronto for those of you who aren't familiar with the area. I'm > > relatively new to the concept of coworking but I'm so excited that > > this exists. I have been thinking about creating my own space and I > > would like to start preparing a business plan. I don't really know how > > to get started writing a business plan are there any good templates to > > use? Can anyone suggest a good starting place?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
Trevor, Stop right there: You don't need a business plan just yet, you need some people. Those people will be your business plan. Yes, you could walk into a bank with a 10 page document explaining how and what you are going to do with their money...or you could walk in with signed checks from 10 paying members and say "see, they're already willing to pay for it". Developing the community before you think "business plan" is critical, because your business plan is likely to NOT jive with the people you're ultimately trying to reach. There are some great recent posts about community development roadmaps, and I have one that's a little more abstract that I crafted after seeing MILK at the end of last year: http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2008/12/22/a-roadmap-for-community-organization-and-mobilization-harvey-milk/ Good luck! -Alex -- - -- - Alex Hillman im always developing something digital: a...@weknowhtml.com helpful: www.unstick.me visual: www.dangerouslyawesome.com local: www.indyhall.org On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Trevor wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > My name is Trevor I live in Mississauga, Ontario which is very close > to Toronto for those of you who aren't familiar with the area. I'm > relatively new to the concept of coworking but I'm so excited that > this exists. I have been thinking about creating my own space and I > would like to start preparing a business plan. I don't really know how > to get started writing a business plan are there any good templates to > use? Can anyone suggest a good starting place? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Hi I'm Trevor - Coworking space newbie
Hi Trevor, A great place to start is here: http://www.google.com/search?q=business+plan+template If you search around, I think there is a coworking business plan or two that have been published by people, but I don't have a link. Searching this group using the search box at the top right will give you a *lot* of good info from the great people here. Regards, Mike Montalvo www.collablab.net On Feb 24, 2:58 pm, Trevor wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My name is Trevor I live in Mississauga, Ontario which is very close > to Toronto for those of you who aren't familiar with the area. I'm > relatively new to the concept of coworking but I'm so excited that > this exists. I have been thinking about creating my own space and I > would like to start preparing a business plan. I don't really know how > to get started writing a business plan are there any good templates to > use? Can anyone suggest a good starting place? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: Interested in using empty space for co-working
Hi Stein, I have done the same thing, though my space is a bit smaller and I don't actually have any users yet. Your basic plan is very doable, and a great way to start since there is minimal startup costs (thats why I did it). And to top it off, your location is probably quite a bit better than mine. heh. There is a ton of information in this group and a lot of the same questions get asked. (Just look up posts by me..). My suggestion is you look at how other successful spaces are being run. You can learn a lot from seeing how spaces like Indy Hall and CitizenSpace are run and from what Alex and Tara have said in this group, among plenty of others. As far as getting the word out, definitely look up a post I made a few days ago. I got some excellent feedback and great ideas. Regards, Mike Montalvo www.collablab.net On Feb 24, 3:14 pm, "st...@progressionpartners.com" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My name is Stine Jewett and I work for a start up called Progression > Partners. We're based in Menlo Park, CA and have extra space available > that we're thinking of using as co-working space. > > We have approx 9 desks in an open work area that could be used for > this. We have meeting rooms and video conferencing as well as basic > office supplies, soft drinks and of course a wifi connection. > > I'd love to get input on the best way to set this up and how to get > the word out that we have space available. > > We were thinking that occassional drop ins could use the space for > free, but we would charge a monthly fee for part time or full time > use, does that sound reasonable? > > Look forward to geeting some feedback. > > Best, > Stine Jewett > email: st...@progressionpartners.com > phone: 650 276 0536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Coworking] Re: DC area co-working history/contacts
Venkat, As you may have noticed I am one of the folks who's been leading the coworking charge here in Baltimore. And we are not, "far out," per se. :) Anyway, you may want to talk to Peter Corbett from iStrategy Labs (@corbett3000), Maxine Teller (@mixtmedia), and possibly Justin Thorp (@thorpus). All are plugged in to the current barcamp / coworking scene and you should seek them out for a conversation. Peter and Maxine are running the Government 2.0 camp and will probably also be at Transparency Camp this weekend (I may be there as well). I hear good things about Affinity Lab, but agree that they come across as more incubator than coworking, and that a proper coworking implementation is long overdue in DC. If there is anything I can do to help (besides shame DC into taking action :) please let me know. Best, Dave Beehive Baltimore Community Coworking in Baltimore www.beehivebaltimore.org @bhivebmore On Feb 24, 9:30 am, Venkat wrote: > Hello: > > I've been working out of my apartment in the Metro DC area for the > past few months (I remote-work for Xerox research in Rochester, NY). > > I've been on this list for about a month, and I searched around as > best I could in the archives, as well as the wiki and blog. The only > evidence of activity in this area I could find was something called > Affinity Lab, listed on the wiki, which seems more like a startup > incubator. There seems to be latent interest though, since I saw > several work-from-home themed meetup groups listed on meetup.com. > > I would like to meet specific people in the Metro DC area (NOT as far > out as Baltimore though) who have tried to start/catalyze co-working > spaces. I'd appreciate any introductions to specific people, or > anything anyone can tell me about the history of coworking attempts > here. > > If there isn't already a history with some momentum, I'd like to help > create some. Maybe starting with a meetup. Anyone else? > > Regards, > > Venkat > > Blog:http://www.ribbonfarm.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
