Re: [Coworking] Member board/photos
We used to use an old classroom sized chalkboard but then we outgrew it and now have a large chalkboard painted on the wall. We also used to go to Wallgreens on the corner and have them printed for about $.08/print but at some point along the way switched to a Canon Selphy printer to the tune of about $.28/print but we don't have to order them and walk up to the store. I wouldn't recommend this printer as it is kind of a pain but I'm not sure what else is out there. We have 180 members and we also put dog photos up there so it's a lot of photos. The other thing to think about is how you make sure the right photos are up there, and that exiting members come down. We use Nadine to alert us to take new member photos and when they leave it reminds us to take them down. Otherwise it's easy to end up with old members that are on there forever. Oh and we started a New Member board where we keep photos for one month. That has been well received. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Gretchen Bilbro gretchen.bil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, What have you used to create your member boards? I have a giant old metal sign that I want to use for the board itself and place photos with brief write ups on with magnets for our member board. For those that have done something similar did you print photos on your printer or buy an instant camera for this purpose? I seem to recall hearing at GCUC last year that the instant camera idea was not the best option but can't remember why or who said that. Any suggestions? Thanks! Gretchen -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Yes Cadu and Anderson, people can be represented by globe. It is a very difficult to be created symbol. It should represent many things. But I think also is not very formal. I encourage other designers to try to create an option. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:46:52 PM UTC, Cadu de Castro Alves wrote: Anderson, I think people are already represented in the world symbol. Isn't it, Fernando? I agree with the other folks about the C or CW. I think that a symbol showing people together would work very well, like this one: http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 Best regards, Cadu de Castro Alves CEO Co-founder www.deskovery.net Em terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2015 14:13:13 UTC-2, Anderson Costa escreveu: I think i miss people in this icon. Just a feeling. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:48:32 PM UTC-2, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Hi everybody, It think universal symbol is a good idea and its great that Fernardo started this topic and proposed the solution but I also think it should be done via coworking wiki open call which everybody could distribute and call out designers to come up with creative solution. Then global coworking community could then vote on best symbol or shortlist it. Participation community approach is important part of coworking so I think this process although it takes more effort will be more democratic opened and also it will make some new connections and global content to share and to collaborate on. Cheers from Zagreb, Matija On 13 Jan 2015, at 18:36, Fernando Aguirre ferna...@fernandoaguirre.com.br wrote: Yes Cadu and Anderson, people can be represented by globe. It is a very difficult to be created symbol. It should represent many things. But I think also is not very formal. I encourage other designers to try to create an option. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:46:52 PM UTC, Cadu de Castro Alves wrote: Anderson, I think people are already represented in the world symbol. Isn't it, Fernando? I agree with the other folks about the C or CW. I think that a symbol showing people together would work very well, like this one: http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 Best regards, Cadu de Castro Alves CEO Co-founder www.deskovery.net http://www.deskovery.net/ Em terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2015 14:13:13 UTC-2, Anderson Costa escreveu: I think i miss people in this icon. Just a feeling. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:48:32 PM UTC-2, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com http://discuss.coworking.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Ah, good question Fernando! There's another alternative besides the one I mentioned in another email: getting just the logo (assuming a single one emerges) adopted by a graphics standards body such as ISO. Here are some examples of symbol sets and the responsible ISO standard: http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/graphical_symbols.htm There's a submissions process that shouldn't be too difficult. I have some experience here and will be glad to dig further. Of course submitting anything requires adoption of a single logo beforehand ;) Randy On January 13, 2015 at 11:43 AM Fernando Aguirre ferna...@fernandoaguirre.com.br wrote: Randall and Ralph, really is a big challenge. As stated, have the idea is easy. People adopt is difficult. Therefore my main question is not whether the symbol is good or not. The main question is: We need a universal symbol? From this response we can work forward. I do not know if we have enough maturity to create a company or organization to manage the symbol. I think there may be something informal, to test whether people adopt. Who manages the symbols of WIFI or Wheelchair? ᐧ On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Fernando Aguirre ferna...@fernandoaguirre.com.br mailto:ferna...@fernandoaguirre.com.br wrote: Yes Cadu and Anderson, people can be represented by globe. It is a very difficult to be created symbol. It should represent many things. But I think also is not very formal. I encourage other designers to try to create an option. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:46:52 PM UTC, Cadu de Castro Alves wrote: Anderson, I think people are already represented in the world symbol. Isn't it, Fernando? I agree with the other folks about the C or CW. I think that a symbol showing people together would work very well, like this one: http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 Best regards, Cadu de Castro Alves CEO Co-founderhttp://www.deskovery.net Em terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2015 14:13:13 UTC-2, Anderson Costa escreveu: I think i miss people in this icon. Just a feeling. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:48:32 PM UTC-2, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think?
Re: [Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Randall and Ralph, really is a big challenge. As stated, have the idea is easy. People adopt is difficult. Therefore my main question is not whether the symbol is good or not. The main question is: We need a universal symbol? From this response we can work forward. I do not know if we have enough maturity to create a company or organization to manage the symbol. I think there may be something informal, to test whether people adopt. Who manages the symbols of WIFI or Wheelchair? ᐧ On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Fernando Aguirre ferna...@fernandoaguirre.com.br wrote: Yes Cadu and Anderson, people can be represented by globe. It is a very difficult to be created symbol. It should represent many things. But I think also is not very formal. I encourage other designers to try to create an option. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 4:46:52 PM UTC, Cadu de Castro Alves wrote: Anderson, I think people are already represented in the world symbol. Isn't it, Fernando? I agree with the other folks about the C or CW. I think that a symbol showing people together would work very well, like this one: http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 Best regards, Cadu de Castro Alves CEO Co-founder www.deskovery.net Em terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2015 14:13:13 UTC-2, Anderson Costa escreveu: I think i miss people in this icon. Just a feeling. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:48:32 PM UTC-2, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/ 2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a- household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/coworking/kGzQmIhyQAo/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Grande abraço, Fernando Aguirre www.fernandoaguirre.com.br (51) 9440.9452 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
ANYone can come up with a logo proposal. Adoption, though, is another matter entirely. Commonly there's a legal entity (foundation, et al) that manages identity for something like this and its directors would determine a selection method. I know there's advocacy groups for coworking but don't know offhand of a single umbrella org. In that case, selection can get more organic... various participating entities would select the logo that appeals most to them and over time one may come to dominate. If I've overlooked an existing umbrella org, mea culpa! Randy On January 13, 2015 at 11:01 AM M.E. Ralph sdg.mont...@gmail.com wrote: Fernando, What an awesome idea! So, who comes up with universal logos? Is it a government agency/department of some kind? If a designer created something like that, what would it take for everyone to adopt it or make it official? I think this is worth pursuing... On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:17:08 PM UTC-7, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: Three Case Studies on Joint Ventures with Landlords
Jaime, We've been doing a pretty interesting venture here in Boulder which might fit really well with the conversation on joint ventures. I realize this was a few days ago, but if you're still looking for info/examples I'd be glad to share what we're doing at The Riverside http://boulderriverside.com. On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 1:04:09 PM UTC-7, Jamie Russo wrote: LEXC (League of Extraordinary Coworking Spaces) is hosting a webinar on joint ventures with landlords starting at 3 pm CST today. Please join us! Meeting ID: 27252294 Join Online Meeting: http://fuze.me/27252294 Join by phone: Dial phone number and enter the Meeting ID when prompted - Toll: +1 201-479-4595 -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] A universal symbol for coworking
Well, i am agree with Ramon Why W, it will be better to use CW Best regards *José Louis QUIROS * http://youtu.be/w8L1t03Pvg0 Fondateur *AquiWork Center Coworking Mérignac* http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ 80 Avenue de la Libération 33700 Mérignac CAPEYRON Tél: 00.33.(0)5.33.48.44.46 Mobile : 00.33 (0)6.16.54.75.55 et (0)6.71.47.52.12 Email: coworkingmerig...@gmail.com coworkingmerig...@gmail.com Viadeo Jose Quiros http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/josé-louis.quiros Facebook Coworking http://www.facebook.com/Coworking.Bordeaux.Merignac http://www.facebook.com/Coworking.Bordeaux.MerignacViadeo http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/coworking.merignac , Twitter https://twitter.com/coworkingmerignGoogle Plus https://plus.google.com/109044843729837577302/postsYoutube http://www.youtube.com/user/CoworkingMerignac http://www.youtube.com/user/CoworkingMerignac http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ Profil LinkedIn r.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros http://fr.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros http://www.facebook.com/Location.Bureaux.Merignac*- Si vous ne souhaitiez plus recevoir ce genre d'informations, merci de me le signaler par retour de mail */annulation-abonnement http://www.coworking-merignac.com/annulation-abonnement-lettre-de-diffusion.html Conformément à la Loi Informatique et Libertés du 6 janvier 1978 modifiée par la loi du 6 août 2004 (articles 38 à 43 de la Loi N° 78-17 du 6 janvier 1978 relative à l'informatique, aux fichiers et aux libertés), vous pouvez exercer votre droit d'accès aux informations et le cas échéant votre droit de rectification ou de retrait des informations vous concernant en contactant directement notre espace. http://www.facebook.com/Location.Bureaux.Merignac coworkingmerig...@gmail.com 2015-01-13 8:38 GMT+01:00 Ramon Suarez ra...@betacowork.com: Why W instead of C or CW? Who will own the copyright of the symbol? Who will have the right to use it? -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] A universal symbol for coworking
For the record, this was accepted by some as the universal symbol for coworking: http://wiki.coworking.org/w/file/91218246/old%20coworking%20logo.jpg And (apologies to its creator) it's terrible. It only shows coffee and wifi, which could be a cafe, a hotel lounge, or any other place that offers both. It doesn't say coworking at all, just two of the amenities of a space. Nothing about the core values, nothing about the people. I like the idea of having something to unite us. It will be tough though. We don't all agree on the hyphen or the definition of coworking, so an image would be quite difficult too, I'm sure. r. *rachel young*rac...@camaraderie.ca *We're located at 2241 Dundas St W, 3rd floor* *(between Bloor and Roncesvalles)* *Chat with me *via 10KCoffees http://www.TenThousandCoffees.com/profile/rachel-young *Find us online:* Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca and Newsletter http://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter, Twitter http://twitter.com/camaraderie, Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Yelp http://bit.ly/CamaraderieYelp, and LinkedIn http://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup We're a proud member of CoworkingToronto http://www.coworkingtoronto.ca/, CoworkingOntario http://coworkingontario.ca/, and CoworkingCanada http://www.coworkingcanada.ca/! On 13 January 2015 at 03:00, Coworking Merignac Bordeaux coworkingmerig...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i am agree with Ramon Why W, it will be better to use CW Best regards *José Louis QUIROS * http://youtu.be/w8L1t03Pvg0 Fondateur *AquiWork Center Coworking Mérignac* http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ 80 Avenue de la Libération 33700 Mérignac CAPEYRON Tél: 00.33.(0)5.33.48.44.46 Mobile : 00.33 (0)6.16.54.75.55 et (0)6.71.47.52.12 Email: coworkingmerig...@gmail.com coworkingmerig...@gmail.com Viadeo Jose Quiros http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/josé-louis.quiros Facebook Coworking http://www.facebook.com/Coworking.Bordeaux.Merignac http://www.facebook.com/Coworking.Bordeaux.MerignacViadeo http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/coworking.merignac , Twitter https://twitter.com/coworkingmerignGoogle Plus https://plus.google.com/109044843729837577302/postsYoutube http://www.youtube.com/user/CoworkingMerignac http://www.youtube.com/user/CoworkingMerignac http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ Profil LinkedIn r.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros http://fr.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros http://www.facebook.com/Location.Bureaux.Merignac*- Si vous ne souhaitiez plus recevoir ce genre d'informations, merci de me le signaler par retour de mail */annulation-abonnement http://www.coworking-merignac.com/annulation-abonnement-lettre-de-diffusion.html Conformément à la Loi Informatique et Libertés du 6 janvier 1978 modifiée par la loi du 6 août 2004 (articles 38 à 43 de la Loi N° 78-17 du 6 janvier 1978 relative à l'informatique, aux fichiers et aux libertés), vous pouvez exercer votre droit d'accès aux informations et le cas échéant votre droit de rectification ou de retrait des informations vous concernant en contactant directement notre espace. http://www.facebook.com/Location.Bureaux.Merignac coworkingmerig...@gmail.com 2015-01-13 8:38 GMT+01:00 Ramon Suarez ra...@betacowork.com: Why W instead of C or CW? Who will own the copyright of the symbol? Who will have the right to use it? -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] A universal symbol for coworking
Accessibility isn't a logo, it's a condition or situation. It's also not relegated to a wheelchair. A logo really won't blind people much. Jerome On Jan 13, 2015, at 7:10 AM, Chad Ballantyne c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: I’m with Rachel - no likey! The universal symbol for coworking is not a logo, it’s a vibe. Hard to draw a vibe. It’s like trying to smell the colour 9. On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:27 AM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: For the record, this was accepted by some as the universal symbol for coworking: http://wiki.coworking.org/w/file/91218246/old%20coworking%20logo.jpg And (apologies to its creator) it's terrible. It only shows coffee and wifi, which could be a cafe, a hotel lounge, or any other place that offers both. It doesn't say coworking at all, just two of the amenities of a space. Nothing about the core values, nothing about the people. I like the idea of having something to unite us. It will be tough though. We don't all agree on the hyphen or the definition of coworking, so an image would be quite difficult too, I'm sure. r. rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca We're located at 2241 Dundas St W, 3rd floor (between Bloor and Roncesvalles) Chat with me via 10KCoffees Find us online: Website/blog and Newsletter, Twitter, Facebook, Google+, Yelp, and LinkedIn We're a proud member of CoworkingToronto, CoworkingOntario, and CoworkingCanada! On 13 January 2015 at 03:00, Coworking Merignac Bordeaux coworkingmerig...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i am agree with Ramon Why W, it will be better to use CW Best regards José Louis QUIROS http://youtu.be/w8L1t03Pvg0 Fondateur AquiWork Center Coworking Mérignac 80 Avenue de la Libération 33700 Mérignac CAPEYRON Tél: 00.33.(0)5.33.48.44.46 Mobile : 00.33 (0)6.16.54.75.55 et (0)6.71.47.52.12 Email: coworkingmerig...@gmail.com Viadeo Jose Quiros Facebook Coworking Viadeo , Twitter Google PlusYoutube http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ Profil LinkedIn r.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros - Si vous ne souhaitiez plus recevoir ce genre d'informations, merci de me le signaler par retour de mail /annulation-abonnement Conformément à la Loi Informatique et Libertés du 6 janvier 1978 modifiée par la loi du 6 août 2004 (articles 38 à 43 de la Loi N° 78-17 du 6 janvier 1978 relative à l'informatique, aux fichiers et aux libertés), vous pouvez exercer votre droit d'accès aux informations et le cas échéant votre droit de rectification ou de retrait des informations vous concernant en contactant directement notre espace. 2015-01-13 8:38 GMT+01:00 Ramon Suarez ra...@betacowork.com: Why W instead of C or CW? Who will own the copyright of the symbol? Who will have the right to use it? -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: Advertising
Hi Jason, Congratulations on starting your space! I am opening mine next week. Gulp! I have spent the last few months trying to get the word out a few different ways. - create a metope group on MeetUp.com - join the Chamber of Commerce (my local one is large and very active. This has helped me a lot) - Join local downtown business associations and be active in your community - I also joined a local young professional network group that is working well. Luckily what I am doing seems to be working pretty well for me. I have had two newspapers contact me for articles this week and have signed up 6 members before opening. Hope this helps! Gretchen www.cultivatecoworking.com On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 6:18:23 AM UTC-6, Jason Epstein wrote: Hello everyone! I am opening a coworking space soon in Downtown Denver. I would like to start pre-leasing before I finish the build-out of my space. Does anyone have suggestion of creative and cheap ways for me to get the word out on my space? Please also link old posts in this group that have already discussed this topic. My website is launching soon. Thank you in advance for your help! -Jason Europa Collaborative europa...@gmail.com javascript: -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
The Noun Project has a couple of coworking symbols that are free to use: http://thenounproject.com/search/?q=coworking There was another one cool one there that I don't see anymore, that I uploaded more than a year ago that has two people typing with a shelter over them. You can take a look at it in my Dropbox link here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mj618q5h35ci45/Coworking%20Symbol.pdf?dl=0 On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 4:17:08 PM UTC-6, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] A universal symbol for coworking
I’m with Rachel - no likey! The universal symbol for coworking is not a logo, it’s a vibe. Hard to draw a vibe. It’s like trying to smell the colour 9. On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:27 AM, rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca wrote: For the record, this was accepted by some as the universal symbol for coworking: http://wiki.coworking.org/w/file/91218246/old%20coworking%20logo.jpg http://wiki.coworking.org/w/file/91218246/old%20coworking%20logo.jpg And (apologies to its creator) it's terrible. It only shows coffee and wifi, which could be a cafe, a hotel lounge, or any other place that offers both. It doesn't say coworking at all, just two of the amenities of a space. Nothing about the core values, nothing about the people. I like the idea of having something to unite us. It will be tough though. We don't all agree on the hyphen or the definition of coworking, so an image would be quite difficult too, I'm sure. r. rachel young rac...@camaraderie.ca mailto:rac...@camaraderie.ca We're located at 2241 Dundas St W, 3rd floor (between Bloor and Roncesvalles) Chat with me via 10KCoffees http://www.tenthousandcoffees.com/profile/rachel-young Find us online: Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca/ and Newsletter http://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter, Twitter http://twitter.com/camaraderie, Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Yelp http://bit.ly/CamaraderieYelp, and LinkedIn http://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup We're a proud member of CoworkingToronto http://www.coworkingtoronto.ca/, CoworkingOntario http://coworkingontario.ca/, and CoworkingCanada http://www.coworkingcanada.ca/! On 13 January 2015 at 03:00, Coworking Merignac Bordeaux coworkingmerig...@gmail.com mailto:coworkingmerig...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i am agree with Ramon Why W, it will be better to use CW Best regards José Louis QUIROS http://youtu.be/w8L1t03Pvg0 http://youtu.be/w8L1t03Pvg0 Fondateur AquiWork Center Coworking Mérignac http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ 80 Avenue de la Libération 33700 Mérignac CAPEYRON Tél: 00.33.(0)5.33.48.44.46 Mobile : 00.33 (0)6.16.54.75.55 et (0)6.71.47.52.12 Email: coworkingmerig...@gmail.com mailto:coworkingmerig...@gmail.com mailto:coworkingmerig...@gmail.com Viadeo Jose Quiros http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/jos%C3%A9-louis.quiros Facebook Coworking http://www.facebook.com/Coworking.Bordeaux.Merignac http://www.facebook.com/Coworking.Bordeaux.MerignacViadeo http://www.viadeo.com/fr/profile/coworking.merignac , Twitter https://twitter.com/coworkingmerignGoogle Plus https://plus.google.com/109044843729837577302/postsYoutube http://www.youtube.com/user/CoworkingMerignac http://www.youtube.com/user/CoworkingMerignachttp://www.coworking-merignac.com/ http://www.coworking-merignac.com/ Profil LinkedIn r.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros http://fr.linkedin.com/in/joselouisquiros http://www.facebook.com/Location.Bureaux.Merignac- Si vous ne souhaitiez plus recevoir ce genre d'informations, merci de me le signaler par retour de mail /annulation-abonnement http://www.coworking-merignac.com/annulation-abonnement-lettre-de-diffusion.html Conformément à la Loi Informatique et Libertés du 6 janvier 1978 modifiée par la loi du 6 août 2004 (articles 38 à 43 de la Loi N° 78-17 du 6 janvier 1978 relative à l'informatique, aux fichiers et aux libertés), vous pouvez exercer votre droit d'accès aux informations et le cas échéant votre droit de rectification ou de retrait des informations vous concernant en contactant directement notre espace. http://www.facebook.com/Location.Bureaux.Merignac mailto:coworkingmerig...@gmail.com 2015-01-13 8:38 GMT+01:00 Ramon Suarez ra...@betacowork.com mailto:ra...@betacowork.com: Why W instead of C or CW? Who will own the copyright of the symbol? Who will have the right to use it? -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com http://discuss.coworking.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:coworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com http://discuss.coworking.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com
Re: [Coworking] My morbid curiosity with Coworking Space Closings
Sorry for being late in this conversation. I just wanted to add a few types/subtypes: 2.1 unsustainable but with unlimited funds (usually connected with some sort of govt initiative). 5 - coworking spaces as feeders for real estate. These are spaces that will never be sustainable, but the owner of the building doesn't care because the owner is just trying to get these companies to grow to get an actual office. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Turns out that surveys are terrible for collecting this kind of information :) I’ve had to do a lot of more hands on work to find real, valuable information. I’ve used some of my findings to help fuel other articles, like this one in the Philadelphia Biz Journal (I pubilished the full interview to suppliment the piece): *http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/behind-the-scenes-of-a-front-page-interview-coworking-any-old-space-wont-do/ http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/behind-the-scenes-of-a-front-page-interview-coworking-any-old-space-wont-do/* The issue is that *demand for space* is a red herring for success in coworking, and worse, it’s a magnet for opportunism. Take a look at every corner of the “sharing economy”…and you’ll find the same thing. Utopian sharing quickly devolves into mass exodus. There’s a bigger problem in doing the research, though…and that’s collecting information from founders/leaders. Founders and leaders of failed spaces (generally) won’t talk, and when they do, it’s platitudes or outright lies. Because let’s be honest, nobody likes facing their failures. There are, of course, a couple of exceptions and they’ve written about their experiences here on the Google Group. The *best* sources of insight have been former members and former staff. The problem is that THEY generally don’t respond well to being approached out of the blue (I’ve learned first hand). We see that coworking spaces are opening at accelerating rates, but what’s not as obvious is that the vast majority of them are dealing with high turnover and/or burn rates that make their business model completely unsustainable. Because of the nature of these businesses, it’s very hard to see the effects of these problems until “reality” sets in about 2 years after the start. There’s clues before then (a mix of highly visible ones, and others that are much more subtle), but any coworking space younger than 2 years old really should be focusing on getting GREAT at one thing: knowing their members. We’re going to see a lot more closings in the near future. I’d say that most coworking spaces open today fall into one of four categories: 1- they’re generally unsustainable, and will die within 2 years. 2 - they’re generally unsustainable, but somebody is pumping cash into them to extend the 2 year life expectancy. Some will right the ship, but many will not before the cash dries up. 3 - they’re growing sustainably 4 - they’re growing unsustainably I’d say that 80%+ of coworking spaces I encounter fall into unsustainable categories 1 and 2. ~18% (maybe a bit less) are safely in category 3, and less than 2% in category 4. -Alex -- *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.* Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Farhan Abbasi findfar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Glad you did this survey in 2012. Any chance you still have the results? Farhan On Wednesday, 19 September 2012 09:19:57 UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: Excellent suggestion on location data, and the little formatting fix. On their way. I've got a dozen or so submissions overnight. Keep 'em coming people. -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 at 8:45 AM, rachel young wrote: Hi, Thanks for starting this, Alex. I'm curious about the results too. I suggest adding mandatory fields for City, Province/State, and Country so that you can easily search and sort by region. The two entries I just sent were from Toronto, ON Canada. Also you copied the notes (It doesn't have to be a eulogy...) from the second last question to the last question. Just a formatting thing. r. * rachel young*rac...@camaraderie.ca *Find us in person:* Camaraderie 102 Adelaide St E 2nd Floor Toronto, ON M5C 1K9 (647) 861-4350 *Find us online:* Website/blog http://camaraderie.ca and Newsletter http://bit.ly/camaraderienewsletter Google+ http://bit.ly/CamaraderiePlus, Twitter http://twitter.com/camaraderie, Facebook http://bit.ly/9zv3Fx, and LinkedIn http://bit.ly/CamaraderieGroup *Be in business for yourself, not by yourself! * *Continue the conversations you started on May 27* *at FLCTO2 by joining the LinkedIn group http://linkd.in/FLCTO.* *Are you a coworking commitmentphobe? * *Try the Coworking Toronto Passport
[Coworking] Member board/photos
Hi all, What have you used to create your member boards? I have a giant old metal sign that I want to use for the board itself and place photos with brief write ups on with magnets for our member board. For those that have done something similar did you print photos on your printer or buy an instant camera for this purpose? I seem to recall hearing at GCUC last year that the instant camera idea was not the best option but can't remember why or who said that. Any suggestions? Thanks! Gretchen -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
I like your ideas... and I'm inspired by this conversation to try my hand at it as well. On January 13, 2015 at 10:05 AM Fernando Aguirre ferna...@fernandoaguirre.com.br wrote: On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
I think i miss people in this icon. Just a feeling. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:48:32 PM UTC-2, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Anderson, I think people are already represented in the world symbol. Isn't it, Fernando? I agree with the other folks about the C or CW. I think that a symbol showing people together would work very well, like this one: http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/223294 Best regards, Cadu de Castro Alves CEO Co-founder www.deskovery.net Em terça-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2015 14:13:13 UTC-2, Anderson Costa escreveu: I think i miss people in this icon. Just a feeling. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 1:48:32 PM UTC-2, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Guys, thanks for the feedback. The first thing I think when creating this post is to discuss: We need a universal symbol? It is a good idea? Help the movement? Second: It is impossible in one symbol represent all that means coworking. If we create one, we need to be selective. Other media help us other meanings. Third: I am not a Brand Designer. I made an initial proposal to start it. Someone else can do better. But you can see how to build my idea in the attached file. Responding to Ramon: I believe that the symbol should not have an owner. It should be free. Distributed by a free license such as Creative Commons. Anyone can use anywhere. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U7zeV_C5S7Q/VLU-Rmbt2PI/AUk/10eV0kAKm_M/s1600/coworking-symbol-2.jpg On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:17:08 PM UTC, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Coworking] My morbid curiosity with Coworking Space Closings
Elliot - Both of those scenarios – while they sound troubling in lots of ways – don’t strike me as the actual reason for the closure of a space. Symptoms, but not causes, ya know? -Alex -- The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself. Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Elliott Williams ellio...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for being late in this conversation. I just wanted to add a few types/subtypes: 2.1 unsustainable but with unlimited funds (usually connected with some sort of govt initiative). 5 - coworking spaces as feeders for real estate. These are spaces that will never be sustainable, but the owner of the building doesn't care because the owner is just trying to get these companies to grow to get an actual office. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Turns out that surveys are terrible for collecting this kind of information :) I’ve had to do a lot of more hands on work to find real, valuable information. I’ve used some of my findings to help fuel other articles, like this one in the Philadelphia Biz Journal (I pubilished the full interview to suppliment the piece): *http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/behind-the-scenes-of-a-front-page-interview-coworking-any-old-space-wont-do/ http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2014/07/behind-the-scenes-of-a-front-page-interview-coworking-any-old-space-wont-do/* The issue is that *demand for space* is a red herring for success in coworking, and worse, it’s a magnet for opportunism. Take a look at every corner of the “sharing economy”…and you’ll find the same thing. Utopian sharing quickly devolves into mass exodus. There’s a bigger problem in doing the research, though…and that’s collecting information from founders/leaders. Founders and leaders of failed spaces (generally) won’t talk, and when they do, it’s platitudes or outright lies. Because let’s be honest, nobody likes facing their failures. There are, of course, a couple of exceptions and they’ve written about their experiences here on the Google Group. The *best* sources of insight have been former members and former staff. The problem is that THEY generally don’t respond well to being approached out of the blue (I’ve learned first hand). We see that coworking spaces are opening at accelerating rates, but what’s not as obvious is that the vast majority of them are dealing with high turnover and/or burn rates that make their business model completely unsustainable. Because of the nature of these businesses, it’s very hard to see the effects of these problems until “reality” sets in about 2 years after the start. There’s clues before then (a mix of highly visible ones, and others that are much more subtle), but any coworking space younger than 2 years old really should be focusing on getting GREAT at one thing: knowing their members. We’re going to see a lot more closings in the near future. I’d say that most coworking spaces open today fall into one of four categories: 1- they’re generally unsustainable, and will die within 2 years. 2 - they’re generally unsustainable, but somebody is pumping cash into them to extend the 2 year life expectancy. Some will right the ship, but many will not before the cash dries up. 3 - they’re growing sustainably 4 - they’re growing unsustainably I’d say that 80%+ of coworking spaces I encounter fall into unsustainable categories 1 and 2. ~18% (maybe a bit less) are safely in category 3, and less than 2% in category 4. -Alex -- *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.* Join the list: http://coworkingweekly.com Listen to the podcast: http://listen.coworkingweekly.com On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Farhan Abbasi findfar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, Glad you did this survey in 2012. Any chance you still have the results? Farhan On Wednesday, 19 September 2012 09:19:57 UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote: Excellent suggestion on location data, and the little formatting fix. On their way. I've got a dozen or so submissions overnight. Keep 'em coming people. -- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 at 8:45 AM, rachel young wrote: Hi, Thanks for starting this, Alex. I'm curious about the results too. I suggest adding mandatory fields for City, Province/State, and Country so that you can easily search and sort by region. The two entries I just sent were from Toronto, ON Canada. Also you copied the notes (It doesn't have to be a eulogy...) from the second last question to the last question. Just a formatting thing. r. * rachel young*rac...@camaraderie.ca *Find us in person:* Camaraderie 102 Adelaide St E 2nd Floor Toronto, ON M5C 1K9 (647) 861-4350 *Find us online:* Website/blog
[Coworking] Re: A universal symbol for coworking
Fernando, What an awesome idea! So, who comes up with universal logos? Is it a government agency/department of some kind? If a designer created something like that, what would it take for everyone to adopt it or make it official? I think this is worth pursuing... On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 3:17:08 PM UTC-7, Fernando Aguirre wrote: Hello. I'm thinking it would be interesting to be a universal symbol for coworking. So you can easily identify coworking spaces in general. As there is with pharmacies, schools, police, etc. I believe a symbol can be useful to better spread the concept. As recently done with the Bug Heartbleed: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-28/the-branding-of-a-bug-how-heartbleed-became-a-household-name.html as well as the W3C made with HTML5. The idea is a universal symbol, distributed free of copyright. In a quick study made a proposal. Is attached. Maybe some more talented designer can propose something better. What do you think? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A-bekElkF3s/VLRHgbDgJTI/AUU/fJeJCWj9_TI/s1600/coworking-simbol.png -- Visit this forum on the web at http://discuss.coworking.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
