[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Sorry, getting to this late. Catching up. The Wrath of Khoworking. I'm done. Carry on. Todd C4 Workspace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Is it wrong to create *an* entity, not *the* entity, that can take some action? Many open source projects have similar support to help them pay for web servers and the like. I'm sure this idea has even been mentioned earlier in the week. I guess that some people might see the new thing as the lightning rod - which could be good or bad. Then, once there are some processes (e.g. how do I get a password) they can be documented and things can be very distributed and self- starting, except for those few times when we need to renew a domain name or whatever. For a year or two, maybe we just ask someone to take point (Alex is that person today), but make sure that a few people are able to pull the trigger. If there are gatekeepers, they should be able to anoint other gatekeepers. We were borrowing a domain name from someone locally (for a user group) here and he let it lapse, so for a week we were trying to call that guy and begging him to renew. I'd hate to see that happen on a global level. Peace, Ryan Price rpr...@ryanpricemedia.com @liberatr 407-484-8528 FloridaCreatives.com Orlando Happy Hour: Mar 15th @ Crooked Bayou Next Likemind: Mar 19th @ UrbanThink! On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle: *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: yes - all done! What's next on coworking.com? On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way. Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs Zombo.com off-list, yes? On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Yep. Both platforms have come a long way. We are impressed with each and try to fit the framework with the clint needs. Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP. http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too. peace, Chad On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins but does now. A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how to use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. tcs-sign-1.png * * Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email.
[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Who is interested in copartying and connecting it with coworking? I am a member of New Work City (in NYC) and spent many years in Ann Arbor, so I am friends with the co-workers at workantileexchange.com. Back in the 1980's I was also part of small systems group an early coworking experiment that emerged from the local MacTechnics users group. After I recently provided DJ/VJ services for a KeenKong launch party at New Work City, I decided to register copartying.com. I'd like to see it end up containing information about cooperating to be really social (i.e. in person, not just virtually social). From 2002 to 2005, I ran a monthly networking party in Ann Arbor called Network Downtown, usually in the offices of some tech start- up. I was the web master, host, head chef, bartender and DJ/VJ. People really took the the work spaces and galleries, that we used for our parties, as an alternative to the bar scene. And it what continues to be a down economy, many of us in start-up companies do not have a lot of money to spend in bars and restaurants for our social events. From the cost effective use of making a space multi-purpose to the notion of taking control of our social space the way coworking is taking control of our work space, I'm interested in what others think about this. - dr.ron On Feb 20, 2:55 pm, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: nice idea... they are looking at various forms of media outreach... we are the NEW generation. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Steven Heath she...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 February 2010 07:18, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. Bring on Pepsi as sponsor? -- Steven Heath Director, Foxbane Consulting Founder, AltSpace Cell: +64 21 706-067 www.foxbane.co.nz Level 22 Plimmer Towers 2 Gilmer Terrace Wellington AltSpace.co.nz http://altspace.co.nz/ - Shared office space in Wellington for home based workers, freelancers, or nimble companies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Alex: my company beex.org is a challenge and project-based fundraising platform. People use it to say what they'll do if a certain amount of money if raised for the nonprofit of their choice. For example, you could use it to say something like 'We will purchase coworking.com if $6000 is raised for (nonprofit org). The system allows anyone with a paypal address to receive funds but so far we've only let nonprofits register. I LOVE coworking and am starting a cafe/coworking space with some friends in Brooklyn this spring so we'd be honored if our tools could power this community's fundraising efforts. Everything is free: no startup charges, no transaction fees. We're getting sponsors to pay for everything. :) We have two options to adapt BEEx to the needs of this community: 1. We can get a nonprofit to fiscally sponsor our projects. This would make all donations to these projects tax-deductible because the money would flow through a nonprofit whose mission is aligned with the coworking movement. I know a number of organizations who would be interested in fiscally sponsoring these projects. With just a little coordination we could be collecting tax-deductible donations by the end of the week. 2. We could also create a custom solution for coworking that alerts users that their donations aren't tax deductible but I'd much prefer to do option 1. Let's discuss more off list. Folks: If you guys have favorite nonprofits please email me their names and my genuinely charming partner will reach out to them after our next site update (javascript registration and improved formatting!) this week. Exciting stuff. On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle: *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: yes - all done! What's next on coworking.com? On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way. Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs Zombo.com off-list, yes? On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Yep. Both platforms have come a long way. We are impressed with each and try to fit the framework with the clint needs. Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP. http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too. peace, Chad On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins but does now. A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how to use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -- You received this message because you are
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Devin, This is very, very cool. We've been looking for something like this regionally for event fundraising. I'll be in touch off-list. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Devin devinbalk...@gmail.com wrote: Alex: my company beex.org is a challenge and project-based fundraising platform. People use it to say what they'll do if a certain amount of money if raised for the nonprofit of their choice. For example, you could use it to say something like 'We will purchase coworking.com if $6000 is raised for (nonprofit org). The system allows anyone with a paypal address to receive funds but so far we've only let nonprofits register. I LOVE coworking and am starting a cafe/coworking space with some friends in Brooklyn this spring so we'd be honored if our tools could power this community's fundraising efforts. Everything is free: no startup charges, no transaction fees. We're getting sponsors to pay for everything. :) We have two options to adapt BEEx to the needs of this community: 1. We can get a nonprofit to fiscally sponsor our projects. This would make all donations to these projects tax-deductible because the money would flow through a nonprofit whose mission is aligned with the coworking movement. I know a number of organizations who would be interested in fiscally sponsoring these projects. With just a little coordination we could be collecting tax-deductible donations by the end of the week. 2. We could also create a custom solution for coworking that alerts users that their donations aren't tax deductible but I'd much prefer to do option 1. Let's discuss more off list. Folks: If you guys have favorite nonprofits please email me their names and my genuinely charming partner will reach out to them after our next site update (javascript registration and improved formatting!) this week. Exciting stuff. On Feb 19, 11:32 am, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I'll reiterate the next steps I'd like to tackle: *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:23 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: yes - all done! What's next on coworking.com? On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way. Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs Zombo.com off-list, yes? On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Yep. Both platforms have come a long way. We are impressed with each and try to fit the framework with the clint needs. Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP. http://www.symfony-project.org/looksgood too. peace, Chad On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in
[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. On Feb 18, 2:29 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain.http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/ -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Somebody just as picky as I am about words. I can respect that :) -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.comwrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. On Feb 18, 2:29 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain. http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/ -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
good comment.! Danielle Nicoli WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.comwrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. On Feb 18, 2:29 pm, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain. http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/ -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: good comment.! Danielle Nicoli WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: good comment.! Danielle Nicoli WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Coworking:Deep Space Nine On 2010-02-20, at 2:03 PM, Tara Hunt wrote: How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: good comment.! Danielle Nicoli WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. inline: tcs-sign-1.png
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
That's the 3rd Star Trek reference in just this thread. /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Coworking:Deep Space Nine On 2010-02-20, at 2:03 PM, Tara Hunt wrote: How about Coworking: the same generation, but better! ;P On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, WHERE MMM where...@gmail.com wrote: good comment.! Danielle Nicoli WHERE to cowork in Los Angeles On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. * * Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. tcs-sign-1.png
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
On 21 February 2010 07:18, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. Bring on Pepsi as sponsor? -- Steven Heath Director, Foxbane Consulting Founder, AltSpace Cell: +64 21 706-067 www.foxbane.co.nz Level 22 Plimmer Towers 2 Gilmer Terrace Wellington AltSpace.co.nz - Shared office space in Wellington for home based workers, freelancers, or nimble companies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
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nice idea... they are looking at various forms of media outreach... we are the NEW generation. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Steven Heath she...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 February 2010 07:18, resourcesuites dan...@resourcesuites.com wrote: i would like to suggest Coworking: the NEW generation. let's cross over the bar, not compete to raise it. Bring on Pepsi as sponsor? -- Steven Heath Director, Foxbane Consulting Founder, AltSpace Cell: +64 21 706-067 www.foxbane.co.nz Level 22 Plimmer Towers 2 Gilmer Terrace Wellington AltSpace.co.nz http://altspace.co.nz/ - Shared office space in Wellington for home based workers, freelancers, or nimble companies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Anyway, I'm a former Drupal guy who after 2 years finally realized how much pain Drupal was causing me and switched to WordPress Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Thanks Alex for stepping up and putting all that time in, teh awesome once again. Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins but does now. A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how to use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
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This is all massively -- dare I say, dangerously -- awesome. Rock on, Alex, for wrangling the domain purchase. I long, long time ago, I had a minor hand in the Coworkination code, and I still have it kicking around here somewhere. If I may provide dev help in resurrecting a Rails-based community component of the site, I'd love to do it. well done, all. -Jacob On Feb 19, 9:33 am, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to snapshot my memories of this last week as I remembered it, and share it. I wrote this last night. As I said on Twitter, I'm sure I left out something Juicy, but: http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2010/02/18/coworking-com-the-next-g... http://www.dangerouslyawesome.com/2010/02/18/coworking-com-the-next-g... -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Hi, We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! Either way, we'll help. Chad On 2010-02-19, at 12:48 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: We're a Drupal studio. If planned well the site can be both aesthetically pleasing and self sustained. (Drupal is the # 1 opensourse CMS) Sorry to hijack the thread *but only for a bit;* I just can't let that assertion stand unchallenged! :-) Drupal is not the #1 opensource CMS, WordPress is! It's got far more users than Drupal! ;-) Anyway, I'm a former Drupal guy who after 2 years finally realized how much pain Drupal was causing me and switched to WordPress, never been happier! :) -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com p.s. OTOH, my partner in Ignition Alley is a Drupal guy so there you go! On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:55 PM, TCS wrote: We're a Drupal studio. If planned well the site can be both aesthetically pleasing and self sustained. (Drupal is the # 1 opensourse CMS) We're willing to help develop the site if y'all wanna do the leg work on Information Architecture, finalize a content outline and navigation schematic, name the taxonomy terms and design. ;o) We can do design as well, but thought that could be another studio if they want to help. Don't know if there's funds available to offer to help build, but we're willing to do whatever for the cause of coworking! Chad The Creative Space - Canada www.thecreativespace.ca 705-252-2423 On 2010-02-18, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
Yep. Both platforms have come a long way. We are impressed with each and try to fit the framework with the clint needs. Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP. http://www.symfony-project.org/ looks good too. peace, Chad On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins but does now. A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how to use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. inline: tcs-sign-1.png
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
HAHA you said Zombo. /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo tonybacigal...@gmail.comwrote: Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way. Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs Zombo.com off-list, yes? On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Yep. Both platforms have come a long way. We are impressed with each and try to fit the framework with the clint needs. Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP. http://www.symfony-project.org/looks good too. peace, Chad On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins but does now. A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how to use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. * * Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. tcs-sign-1.png
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
yes - all done! What's next on coworking.com? On 2010-02-19, at 11:08 AM, Tony Bacigalupo wrote: Alex, thanks for rocking this and documenting it as you go. This is a good start and I look forward to this evolving in a healthy way. Let's move the discussion on w/Drupal vs WP vs Emacs vs Yahoo Store vs Zombo.com off-list, yes? On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM, TCS c...@thecreativespace.ca wrote: Yep. Both platforms have come a long way. We are impressed with each and try to fit the framework with the clint needs. Thus far for CMS we're about 80/20 between Drupal instals and WP. http://www.symfony-project.org/ looks good too. peace, Chad On 2010-02-19, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:25 AM, TCS wrote: We realize there's more users - I wasn't counting users, rather considering the overall expandability and multifunctional use of a website tool. It's not the easiest to use as a developer, but once you get it, it is robust! Just thinking if you want to create a community environment and build on a more robust tool, Drupal's great. We love Wordpress too! On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Patrick wrote: Wordpress is a blog platform that can be used as a CMS, not an actual CMS ;) Just teasing. Yes mine was some as light hearted teasing as well. Glad you took it as as such. :) Still, many a truth said in jest as they say. I really have seen people have a lot more difficulty getting Drupal projects completed vs. WordPress projects and then training users to understand Drupal is yet another complication where it's pretty easy for users to get WordPress. As way to explain and a rule of thumb I tell prospective users that the minimum WordPress project cost they'd pay a local consultant for a professional design and a bit of custom functionality developed in PHP and/or jQuery is about $2500 vs. the minimum Drupal is around $10k. Drupal typically makes the first 85% easy but the last 15% can be very difficult (and hence time consuming/expensive.) FWIW a year ago WordPress didn't have the feature set needed in core+plugins but does now. A partner and I are actually launching a conference in Atlanta called The Business of WordPress to highlight how to use it for local businesses in part because I want them to see how effective it is now. -Mike Schinkel Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking http://ignitionalley.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. tcs-sign-1.png Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. Chad Ballantyne Creative Director www.thecreativespace.ca 705.252.2423 ü Please consider the environment before printing this email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. inline: tcs-sign-1.png
[Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
On Feb 19, 12:48 am, Mike Schinkel mikeschin...@newclarity.net wrote: p.s. OTOH, my partner in Ignition Alley is a Drupal guy so there you go! Said Drupal-loving partner here :) I'm the guy that too www.ignitionalley.com from PSD to HTML to Drupal to custom-built members area with Freshbooks and PayPal integration. I know Wordpress pretty well too and am really platform-agnostic. I'm glad to lend my talents wherever needed. I'm actually in the process of selling one of my companies (final paperwork went out today!), so I'll have a glut of free time to be able to help in the coming weeks :) I also have a design company that I'll be focusing on, so I have a whole group of guys to fall back on as needed. Let's build something awesome! -Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en.
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You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks great! Avesta and Cameron Founders CoLoft Coloft.com On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking around. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just came out of my head! :) /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page, h?)! And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk! p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future (please please please?): http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/ On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain. http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/ -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
One more fun, kinda geeky idea I had: http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.com http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.comI've now posted the very first iteration of the website to github for anybody to fork and contribute back to. Bug fixes, UI ideas, copywriting...whatever you like. You can submit a pull request to me and we can use true open source to evolve the website. For those who don't now what Git or Github is, I apologize for the last 4 sentences of what must have appeared to be Klingon to you. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Avesta 2bave...@gmail.com wrote: You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks great! Avesta and Cameron Founders CoLoft Coloft.com On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking around. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just came out of my head! :) /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page, h?)! And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk! p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future (please please please?): http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/ On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain. http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/ -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com coworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The Whuffie Factor (http://www.thewhuffiefactor.com) Blog: HorsePigCow: Marketing Uncommon (http://horsepigcow.com) Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/missrogue phone: 514-679-2951 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: [Coworking] Re: coworking.com: the next generation
That was awesome. /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:48 PM, j. p. sweeney james.swee...@workantileexchange.com wrote: Alex- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. J.P. On 18 Feb 2010, at 21:46, Alex Hillman wrote: One more fun, kinda geeky idea I had: http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.com http://github.com/alexknowshtml/Coworking.comI've now posted the very first iteration of the website to github for anybody to fork and contribute back to. Bug fixes, UI ideas, copywriting...whatever you like. You can submit a pull request to me and we can use true open source to evolve the website. For those who don't now what Git or Github is, I apologize for the last 4 sentences of what must have appeared to be Klingon to you. -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Avesta 2bave...@gmail.com wrote: You did an awesome job handling all of this Alex, and the page looks great! Avesta and Cameron Founders CoLoft Coloft.com On Feb 18, 5:17 pm, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure it did! I can't find it. I'm sure Messina has a few kicking around. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.comwrote: You have any screencaps of the early flock pages? I swear this just came out of my head! :) /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Tara Hunt horsepig...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's great for now (reminds me of an early FLOCK page, h?)! And THANK YOU Alex for doing this! You rawk! p.s. I hope we can revisit Coworkination mockups in the future (please please please?): http://www.flickr.com/photos/missrogue/sets/72157600017335084/ On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Alex Hillman dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com wrote: Over the last several hours, I've finalized the transactions with Bernie and Gerrit, transferred the domain, configured the DNS, and set up a simple static homepage to display the community core values and point them to the three communal resources that we have, just like intended by the proposal sent out earlier this week. The new coworking.com points to the google group, the wiki, and the blog. It defines some explicit activities that people can do at each of those places to get involved. http://coworking.com It does not attempt to define coworking any more than is already defined on the landing page of the google group. It does not express any commercial or even organizational intent. It just says we're here, and we're not going anywhere. I think this stake in the ground is extremely representative and lets us go ANY direction we want. The design is the product of...well...an hour of my time put in to copywriting and CSS. I'd be just as happy to throw it away if something else came along and the group suggests that, so long as the general concept stays clear. I'd also be willing to take design/copy tips/tweaks to heart. You can't hurt my feelings too bad, I'm not a designer and I know it :) There are still a number of other matters to sort out that have come up since we started down this fun journey this week, and they can be dealt with one at a time. I'll be following up with all of the contributors, as well as the list, to discuss the next steps in managing the remaining funds. *I'd really like the next discussion on this list* to help find a more sustainable mechanism for allowing people to contribute to the website fund without raising money that we simply don't need. Right now the fund raise is spread out over ~20 people. That de-risked the initial purchase, and let this happen at all. In the next phase, I think the objective should be to spread the fund wider and, as Chris Messina said, put the focus on individual supporters instead of business supporters, giving everyone more equal access to the resources that come with having the domain. Let's brainstorm! I also want to publicly thank Bernie and Gerrit for being so awesome during the transaction. They asked me to share this retrospective they posted last night on the last 10 years with the domain. http://www.smartmobs.com/2010/02/17/coworking-past-and-future/ -Alex /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Coworking group. To post to this group, send email to cowork...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com coworking%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comcoworking%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- tara 'missrogue' hunt Book: The
