Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[Jerome Chang]

I agree.
For all the demands and claims for needing a ton of bandwidth, we have 250/250 
of lit fiber in our Santa Monica location and no more than 20-30% is ever in 
use.

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> On Sep 20, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have been happy with 150 mbps of service. We often get 70 down and we 
> don't get any complaints.
> 
> We get complaints when there is something wrong with the ISP in general.
> 
> Don't stress too much about the speeds. You'll see plenty of spaces advertise 
> they have gig internet. That's cool, but it's often not needed if you are 
> running a smaller space with less than 40 people at a time.
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Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[Craig Baute - Creative Density Coworking]

We have been happy with 150 mbps of service. We often get 70 down and we 
don't get any complaints.

We get complaints when there is something wrong with the ISP in general.

Don't stress too much about the speeds. You'll see plenty of spaces 
advertise they have gig internet. That's cool, but it's often not needed if 
you are running a smaller space with less than 40 people at a time.

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Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[Michael Ma]

Here is a link that discusses individual user access setup on the Unifi.
Bottom line it can be done but it requires you setup a Radius database with
WPA-Enterprise
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/How-to-implement-a-quot-one-password-per-user-quot-policy/td-p/1587623

The unifi does allow a captive portal for guest wireless network.   I have
our guest wireless setup with their facebook integration.   Folks can get
on the wireless for free after they check into our site with their facebook
account.
I don't see any reason why your unifi switch won't be compatible with any
router.   Also you don't have to use the unifi switches.   I got a less
expensive POE switch for my unifi AP's that work fine.   You just have to
make sure the POE switch you get is compatible with the type of POE used by
the unifi ap's you purchase.

best,
Michael


On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 8:17 AM  wrote:

> Alex - what a goldmine of information and insight. It's so much more
> practical to hear from actual operators who understand the clientele and
> with experience of running spaces. Thank you very much!
>
> Unifi swtich - our ISP will be providing enterprise class Cisco or Huawei
> routers, will these be compatible with this switch?
>
> Uifi controller - impressive list of functionalities but does it also
> provide individual user access from the APs? not sure what the technical
> term is but I'm looking for a solution that allows members to login to the
> wireless network with their own individual login and password credentials
> over the same network, as opposed to everyone given the same password to
> login. Furthermore, does the controller allow for the creation of a captive
> portal, say on a Guest wireless network?
>
>
> Trevor - thanks for sharing! Are you concerned with 50mb up being
> insufficient, or do you envision the use case for the majority of members
> not requiring extra bandwidth?
>
> On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:21:56 UTC+1, Alex Hillman wrote:
>>
>> In my experience, 100 mbs up and down *should* be ample for most users.
>> 30 people with ~2ish devices each should be fine.
>>
>> We have 150 down/120 up for over 150 users and *never* run into
>> bandwidth issues, even when lots of people are streaming videos,
>> downloading large files, doing big dropbox syncs, etc. Actual real world
>> usage in our 150 person space shows that that it's a near-zero occurrence
>> that more than 1-5 people are large bandwidh users *at the same time. *At
>> this moment as I write this email, 6 people are using more than 1 meg per
>> second.
>>
>> That said, even with the exact same setup we used to have *major* issues
>> with our old Comcast service, their non-fiber upload speeds are limited and
>> more importantly, when you "fill" the upload pipe it can do anything from
>> slow the download connection to crash the modem. Go figure. Comcast
>> "business class" is pretty terrible. Avoid at all costs.
>>
>> For the rest of your infrastructure - I'd plan for *more than one* Unifi
>> AP. I've got a super detailed outline of our Unifi setup in this other
>> thread on the google group
>> .
>> These day's I'd recommend going with the AP AC Pro. They're awesome.
>>
>> That said, every environment is different, but we start to see
>> performance degradation when there is more than 30-40 devices on a single
>> AP. Two should be good, and help you spread coverage across the space. And
>> make sure you follow the mounting instructions!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:26 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Super new to this and would appreciate some advice. I'm opening up a
>>> small space with a capacity of 30 people, including laptops and phones I
>>> expect around 60-70 devices at full capacity.I expect to have our CCTV,
>>> entry system, POS and printer hooked up to the network at all times.
>>>
>>> I estimate 90+% of our users to be of the drop-in type, similar to those
>>> who work from your local coffee shop or Starbucks. The remaining minority
>>> of users will have more demanding needs in terms of their internet speeds.
>>>
>>> I'm planning on getting an uncontended leased line, with symmetrical
>>> speeds of 100mbs on a 100mb circuit and 1 UniFi AP. Do you think this will
>>> be sufficient? My research is telling me it's everything ranging from
>>> complete overkill to being insufficient (target of 5mbs per person)??
>>>
>>> Please also sure your bandwidth and no. of users for comparison.
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
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Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[Trevor Townsend]

Hi,

No, I'm not too concerned with the 50Mb up at the moment - I'll be
monitoring this and talking with members and will bump up if needed.
It's a small space, so not likely to have more than 15-20 concurrent users.

Cheers,
Trevor

On 19 September 2018 at 04:29,  wrote:

> Alex - what a goldmine of information and insight. It's so much more
> practical to hear from actual operators who understand the clientele and
> with experience of running spaces. Thank you very much!
>
> Unifi swtich - our ISP will be providing enterprise class Cisco or Huawei
> routers, will these be compatible with this switch?
>
> Uifi controller - impressive list of functionalities but does it also
> provide individual user access from the APs? not sure what the technical
> term is but I'm looking for a solution that allows members to login to the
> wireless network with their own individual login and password credentials
> over the same network, as opposed to everyone given the same password to
> login. Furthermore, does the controller allow for the creation of a captive
> portal, say on a Guest wireless network?
>
>
> Trevor - thanks for sharing! Are you concerned with 50mb up being
> insufficient, or do you envision the use case for the majority of members
> not requiring extra bandwidth?
>
> On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:21:56 UTC+1, Alex Hillman wrote:
>>
>> In my experience, 100 mbs up and down *should* be ample for most users.
>> 30 people with ~2ish devices each should be fine.
>>
>> We have 150 down/120 up for over 150 users and *never* run into
>> bandwidth issues, even when lots of people are streaming videos,
>> downloading large files, doing big dropbox syncs, etc. Actual real world
>> usage in our 150 person space shows that that it's a near-zero occurrence
>> that more than 1-5 people are large bandwidh users *at the same time. *At
>> this moment as I write this email, 6 people are using more than 1 meg per
>> second.
>>
>> That said, even with the exact same setup we used to have *major* issues
>> with our old Comcast service, their non-fiber upload speeds are limited and
>> more importantly, when you "fill" the upload pipe it can do anything from
>> slow the download connection to crash the modem. Go figure. Comcast
>> "business class" is pretty terrible. Avoid at all costs.
>>
>> For the rest of your infrastructure - I'd plan for *more than one* Unifi
>> AP. I've got a super detailed outline of our Unifi setup in this other
>> thread on the google group
>> .
>> These day's I'd recommend going with the AP AC Pro. They're awesome.
>>
>> That said, every environment is different, but we start to see
>> performance degradation when there is more than 30-40 devices on a single
>> AP. Two should be good, and help you spread coverage across the space. And
>> make sure you follow the mounting instructions!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:26 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Super new to this and would appreciate some advice. I'm opening up a
>>> small space with a capacity of 30 people, including laptops and phones I
>>> expect around 60-70 devices at full capacity.I expect to have our CCTV,
>>> entry system, POS and printer hooked up to the network at all times.
>>>
>>> I estimate 90+% of our users to be of the drop-in type, similar to those
>>> who work from your local coffee shop or Starbucks. The remaining minority
>>> of users will have more demanding needs in terms of their internet speeds.
>>>
>>> I'm planning on getting an uncontended leased line, with symmetrical
>>> speeds of 100mbs on a 100mb circuit and 1 UniFi AP. Do you think this will
>>> be sufficient? My research is telling me it's everything ranging from
>>> complete overkill to being insufficient (target of 5mbs per person)??
>>>
>>> Please also sure your bandwidth and no. of users for comparison.
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
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Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[xaymanhsu]

Alex - what a goldmine of information and insight. It's so much more 
practical to hear from actual operators who understand the clientele and 
with experience of running spaces. Thank you very much!

Unifi swtich - our ISP will be providing enterprise class Cisco or Huawei 
routers, will these be compatible with this switch?

Uifi controller - impressive list of functionalities but does it also 
provide individual user access from the APs? not sure what the technical 
term is but I'm looking for a solution that allows members to login to the 
wireless network with their own individual login and password credentials 
over the same network, as opposed to everyone given the same password to 
login. Furthermore, does the controller allow for the creation of a captive 
portal, say on a Guest wireless network?


Trevor - thanks for sharing! Are you concerned with 50mb up being 
insufficient, or do you envision the use case for the majority of members 
not requiring extra bandwidth?

On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:21:56 UTC+1, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> In my experience, 100 mbs up and down *should* be ample for most users. 
> 30 people with ~2ish devices each should be fine. 
>
> We have 150 down/120 up for over 150 users and *never* run into bandwidth 
> issues, even when lots of people are streaming videos, downloading large 
> files, doing big dropbox syncs, etc. Actual real world usage in our 150 
> person space shows that that it's a near-zero occurrence that more than 1-5 
> people are large bandwidh users *at the same time. *At this moment as I 
> write this email, 6 people are using more than 1 meg per second.  
>
> That said, even with the exact same setup we used to have *major* issues 
> with our old Comcast service, their non-fiber upload speeds are limited and 
> more importantly, when you "fill" the upload pipe it can do anything from 
> slow the download connection to crash the modem. Go figure. Comcast 
> "business class" is pretty terrible. Avoid at all costs. 
>
> For the rest of your infrastructure - I'd plan for *more than one* Unifi 
> AP. I've got a super detailed outline of our Unifi setup in this other 
> thread on the google group 
> . 
> These day's I'd recommend going with the AP AC Pro. They're awesome. 
>
> That said, every environment is different, but we start to see performance 
> degradation when there is more than 30-40 devices on a single AP. Two 
> should be good, and help you spread coverage across the space. And make 
> sure you follow the mounting instructions! 
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:26 PM > wrote:
>
>> Super new to this and would appreciate some advice. I'm opening up a 
>> small space with a capacity of 30 people, including laptops and phones I 
>> expect around 60-70 devices at full capacity.I expect to have our CCTV, 
>> entry system, POS and printer hooked up to the network at all times. 
>>
>> I estimate 90+% of our users to be of the drop-in type, similar to those 
>> who work from your local coffee shop or Starbucks. The remaining minority 
>> of users will have more demanding needs in terms of their internet speeds.
>>
>> I'm planning on getting an uncontended leased line, with symmetrical 
>> speeds of 100mbs on a 100mb circuit and 1 UniFi AP. Do you think this will 
>> be sufficient? My research is telling me it's everything ranging from 
>> complete overkill to being insufficient (target of 5mbs per person)??
>>
>> Please also sure your bandwidth and no. of users for comparison. 
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
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Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[Trevor Townsend]

This is really good information.

I'm opening my coworking space in October, and I also have a complete
Ubiquiti Unifi AP AC Pro system for my members.
I'm running on Bell Canada fiber at 150Mb down, 50Mb up, and will likely
have no more than 20 users on-site at any given time.

Thanks for this info - very, very helpful.

Best,
Trevor

On 18 September 2018 at 16:21, Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> In my experience, 100 mbs up and down *should* be ample for most users.
> 30 people with ~2ish devices each should be fine.
>
> We have 150 down/120 up for over 150 users and *never* run into bandwidth
> issues, even when lots of people are streaming videos, downloading large
> files, doing big dropbox syncs, etc. Actual real world usage in our 150
> person space shows that that it's a near-zero occurrence that more than 1-5
> people are large bandwidh users *at the same time. *At this moment as I
> write this email, 6 people are using more than 1 meg per second.
>
> That said, even with the exact same setup we used to have *major* issues
> with our old Comcast service, their non-fiber upload speeds are limited and
> more importantly, when you "fill" the upload pipe it can do anything from
> slow the download connection to crash the modem. Go figure. Comcast
> "business class" is pretty terrible. Avoid at all costs.
>
> For the rest of your infrastructure - I'd plan for *more than one* Unifi
> AP. I've got a super detailed outline of our Unifi setup in this other
> thread on the google group
> .
> These day's I'd recommend going with the AP AC Pro. They're awesome.
>
> That said, every environment is different, but we start to see performance
> degradation when there is more than 30-40 devices on a single AP. Two
> should be good, and help you spread coverage across the space. And make
> sure you follow the mounting instructions!
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:26 PM  wrote:
>
>> Super new to this and would appreciate some advice. I'm opening up a
>> small space with a capacity of 30 people, including laptops and phones I
>> expect around 60-70 devices at full capacity.I expect to have our CCTV,
>> entry system, POS and printer hooked up to the network at all times.
>>
>> I estimate 90+% of our users to be of the drop-in type, similar to those
>> who work from your local coffee shop or Starbucks. The remaining minority
>> of users will have more demanding needs in terms of their internet speeds.
>>
>> I'm planning on getting an uncontended leased line, with symmetrical
>> speeds of 100mbs on a 100mb circuit and 1 UniFi AP. Do you think this will
>> be sufficient? My research is telling me it's everything ranging from
>> complete overkill to being insufficient (target of 5mbs per person)??
>>
>> Please also sure your bandwidth and no. of users for comparison.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
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Re: [Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[Alex Hillman]

In my experience, 100 mbs up and down *should* be ample for most users. 30
people with ~2ish devices each should be fine.

We have 150 down/120 up for over 150 users and *never* run into bandwidth
issues, even when lots of people are streaming videos, downloading large
files, doing big dropbox syncs, etc. Actual real world usage in our 150
person space shows that that it's a near-zero occurrence that more than 1-5
people are large bandwidh users *at the same time. *At this moment as I
write this email, 6 people are using more than 1 meg per second.

That said, even with the exact same setup we used to have *major* issues
with our old Comcast service, their non-fiber upload speeds are limited and
more importantly, when you "fill" the upload pipe it can do anything from
slow the download connection to crash the modem. Go figure. Comcast
"business class" is pretty terrible. Avoid at all costs.

For the rest of your infrastructure - I'd plan for *more than one* Unifi
AP. I've got a super detailed outline of our Unifi setup in this other
thread on the google group
. These
day's I'd recommend going with the AP AC Pro. They're awesome.

That said, every environment is different, but we start to see performance
degradation when there is more than 30-40 devices on a single AP. Two
should be good, and help you spread coverage across the space. And make
sure you follow the mounting instructions!

Alex




On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 2:26 PM  wrote:

> Super new to this and would appreciate some advice. I'm opening up a small
> space with a capacity of 30 people, including laptops and phones I expect
> around 60-70 devices at full capacity.I expect to have our CCTV, entry
> system, POS and printer hooked up to the network at all times.
>
> I estimate 90+% of our users to be of the drop-in type, similar to those
> who work from your local coffee shop or Starbucks. The remaining minority
> of users will have more demanding needs in terms of their internet speeds.
>
> I'm planning on getting an uncontended leased line, with symmetrical
> speeds of 100mbs on a 100mb circuit and 1 UniFi AP. Do you think this will
> be sufficient? My research is telling me it's everything ranging from
> complete overkill to being insufficient (target of 5mbs per person)??
>
> Please also sure your bandwidth and no. of users for comparison.
>
> Many thanks!
>
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[Coworking] What's your bandwidth?

[xaymanhsu]

Super new to this and would appreciate some advice. I'm opening up a small 
space with a capacity of 30 people, including laptops and phones I expect 
around 60-70 devices at full capacity.I expect to have our CCTV, entry 
system, POS and printer hooked up to the network at all times. 

I estimate 90+% of our users to be of the drop-in type, similar to those 
who work from your local coffee shop or Starbucks. The remaining minority 
of users will have more demanding needs in terms of their internet speeds.

I'm planning on getting an uncontended leased line, with symmetrical speeds 
of 100mbs on a 100mb circuit and 1 UniFi AP. Do you think this will be 
sufficient? My research is telling me it's everything ranging from complete 
overkill to being insufficient (target of 5mbs per person)??

Please also sure your bandwidth and no. of users for comparison. 

Many thanks!

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