Re: The Art of Submarine Warfare

2001-06-23 Thread Steve Schear

At 05:29 PM 6/22/2001 -0700, Greg Broiles wrote:
At 06:08 PM 6/22/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, what can take out a surveillance camera from a
distance? An Edmund Scientific laser? How about the
ones in a dark glass bowl?

I have wondered about this but don't have answers. One direction of 
thought and research which might be productive is nondestructively 
temporarily disabling the camera, perhaps by flooding its light sensor 
with a focused beam of light, like a flashlight or laser - it's going to 
compensate for that level of lighting, leaving the rest of the frame 
underexposed, as long as it's misled by that local brightness.

Also, if you're monkeying with cop cameras, that *would* probably be 
obstruction of justice or interfering with a police officer or whatever 
your local don't fuck with the cops statute is.

No need to use something so targeted at the cop camera, just install 
rear-facing infrared floods and keep them on all the time.  (Cadillac 
drivers with the new night-driving, IR, heads-up displays will be 
particularly upset..) The IR cut-off filters of most cameras are too broad 
to block invisible near IR, so the floods will cause the AGC to greatly 
darken the image as described above.

steve




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NSA Snooping Domestic Crypto

2001-06-23 Thread John Young

Debate on whether the NSA spies domestically on US 
persons appears to be yes according to USSID 18, dated 
July 23, 1993, which was obtained by the National Security 
Archive a while back, for which we offer an HTML:

  http://cryptome.org/nsa-ussid18.htm

Parts previously redacted concerning domestic surveillance 
are now  revealed, among them these provisions for acquiring 
and retaining indefinitely domestically acquired encipherments:

[Quote]

(2) Domestic communications reasonably believed to 
contain technical data base information may be retained 
for a period sufficient to allow a thorough exploitation and 
to permit access to data that are, or are reasonably believed
likely to become, relevant to a current or future foreign 
intelligence requirement. Sufficient duration may vary 
with the nature of the exploitation.   (S-CCO)

a. In the context of a cryptanalytic effort, maintenance of 
technical data bases requires retention of all communications 
that are enciphered or reasonably believed to contain secret 
meaning, and sufficient duration may consist of any period of 
time during which encrypted material is subject to, or of use
in, cryptanalysis. (S-CCO)

b. In the case of communications that are not enciphered or 
otherwise thought to contain secret meaning, sufficient duration 
is one year unless the Deputy Director for Operations, NSA, 
determines in writing that retention for a longer period is 
required to respond to authorized foreign intelligence or 
counterintelligence requirements. (S-CCO)

[End quote]

Again, these sections were censored in versions of USSID 18
previously made public, a 1980 version here:

  http://cryptome.org/nsa-ussid18-80.htm

While the quoted material is a small part of the 52-page
document, variations on it are repeated more than
once, and seems to be the one exception to the
requirement to avoid domestic interceptions and
to destroy any that are inadvertently acquired.

The classification (S-CCO) is not explained but some
think it perhaps indicates material limited to the UK/USA
agreement and/or the Echelon partners. A better answer
is welcomed.




Re: Critiques of Libertarianism

2001-06-23 Thread Declan McCullagh

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 04:47:10PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
 And you're proud you don't have to listen to folks before you stick 'em in
 a box? Bullshit, Libertarians choose to call themselves by that label,
 it's a self imposed box. Your criticism is without merit. Or perhaps the
 ghost of Wittgenstein will walk through you...
 

I'll regret responding to Choate sooner than later, I suspect, but in 
my experience, most people who are libertarians don't call themselves that.
And they certainly don't identify as Libertarians.

-Declan




Re: No panties?

2001-06-23 Thread Declan McCullagh

I can confirm that Jeff Gordon is not Blanc Weber:
http://www.mccullagh.org/image/10/blanc-weber.html

For instance, there is no reliable evidence that Jeff Gordon wears
panties, though it is clear that he's far more of an avid reader of
cypherpunks than Ms. Weber:
http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=01/04/11/238254mode=thread

-Declan


On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 09:11:09AM -0700, John Doe #2 wrote:
 At 05:28 PM 6/15/01 +, Steve Thompson wrote:
 For many reasons, we have been perusing the archives in order to
 resolve a
 number of burning questions.  One such question revolves around the the
 
 erstwhile entity, Blanc Weber.  Despite much heated discussion on the
 subject,
 a first-order analysis of the archives clearly shows that we may not be
 
 certain on the question of whether or not Blanc wore panties.
 
 Odd, we had the same feeling at the time; in fact we suspected that BW
 was JG.
 However Declan has a picture of an older woman captioned Blanc Weber, so
 
 perhaps not.




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Re: The Art of Submarine Warfare

2001-06-23 Thread Jon Beets



Randomly 
checking for a drivers license which you are required to have when driving. Many 
people who have had their drivers license suspended often drive their vehicles 
anyway. I would assume most states (if not all) require you to surrender you 
drivers license to the police when asked. I believe the law actually views the 
drivers license as the property of the state which would be where they have the 
right to revoke it.Jon BeetsPacer Communications- 
Original Message -From: "Reese" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
"Jon Beets" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:32 AMSubject: Re: The Art of 
Submarine Warfare BUT - what are they randomly checking 
for? The officer only asks for her ID, to establish her identity, 
that's a law enforcement function, he never asks for her registration, 
which would marginally be a safety/compliance function. 
At 04:01 PM 6/22/01, Jon Beets wrote: Random roadside checks 
have been legal in many states for years Ican remember 
them as far back as 1982 in Texas.  Jon 
Beets Pacer Communications 



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