Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Equinox fix for Luna SR1 now available as a feature patch in 4.4 repository.

2014-11-02 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 31 Oct 2014, at 19:56, David M Williams wrote:

I am not sure if this bug was discussed directly on this list, or, 
just

some of its predecessors, but, we have an official fix available for
anyone impacted by


Really appreciate the work for fixing this nasty subtle bug.

But can we have a chat about why the Eclipse release train does not seem 
to have a *good* way to release updates for this ?


By Good I mean one that just gets available via Check For Updates 
rather that one that does not require users to aware of having to 
install a specific feature patch ?


I think Eclipse survived this far because we haven't really had any big 
all impacting stop ship bugs, but lately they are starting to crop up 
- this issue with System properties being the worst one (that I know 
of).


Can someone remind me why we can't in these cases do an update that 
fixes this bug ? Is it technical because the release train is to hardly 
coupled and we have feature's using exact versions and that p2 won't let 
you update the plugins on their own ?


...or is there also some political agenda on how we provide these 
updates ?


In any case - I think it would be worth finding a way to update these 
technical and political limitations to make it easier to do timely 
stop-ship bug updates?


wdyt ?

/max
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Equinox fix for Luna SR1 now available as a feature patch in 4.4 repository.

2014-11-02 Thread Thomas Hallgren

+1

I would really like to see p2 leveraged (the way it was designed to) to make it really easy to push fixes like this out 
to the community in a controlled but swift manner.


- thomas

On 2014-11-02 11:07, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

On 31 Oct 2014, at 19:56, David M Williams wrote:


I am not sure if this bug was discussed directly on this list, or, just
some of its predecessors, but, we have an official fix available for
anyone impacted by


Really appreciate the work for fixing this nasty subtle bug.

But can we have a chat about why the Eclipse release train does not seem to have a *good* way to release updates for 
this ?


By Good I mean one that just gets available via Check For Updates rather that one that does not require users to 
aware of having to install a specific feature patch ?


I think Eclipse survived this far because we haven't really had any big all impacting stop ship bugs, but lately 
they are starting to crop up - this issue with System properties being the worst one (that I know of).


Can someone remind me why we can't in these cases do an update that fixes this bug ? Is it technical because the 
release train is to hardly coupled and we have feature's using exact versions and that p2 won't let you update the 
plugins on their own ?


...or is there also some political agenda on how we provide these updates ?

In any case - I think it would be worth finding a way to update these technical and political limitations to make it 
easier to do timely stop-ship bug updates?


wdyt ?

/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Equinox fix for Luna SR1 now available as a feature patch in 4.4 repository.

2014-11-02 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
This is related to the discussion about a year or so ago about having more
frequent or even continuous updates to the composite repo. That didn't go
anywhere, unfortunately. 

- Konstantin


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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Equinox fix for Luna SR1 now
available as a feature patch in 4.4 repository.

+1

I would really like to see p2 leveraged (the way it was designed to) to make
it really easy to push fixes like this out to the community in a controlled
but swift manner.

- thomas

On 2014-11-02 11:07, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
 On 31 Oct 2014, at 19:56, David M Williams wrote:

 I am not sure if this bug was discussed directly on this list, or, 
 just some of its predecessors, but, we have an official fix 
 available for anyone impacted by

 Really appreciate the work for fixing this nasty subtle bug.

 But can we have a chat about why the Eclipse release train does not 
 seem to have a *good* way to release updates for this ?

 By Good I mean one that just gets available via Check For Updates 
 rather that one that does not require users to aware of having to install
a specific feature patch ?

 I think Eclipse survived this far because we haven't really had any 
 big all impacting stop ship bugs, but lately they are starting to crop
up - this issue with System properties being the worst one (that I know of).

 Can someone remind me why we can't in these cases do an update that 
 fixes this bug ? Is it technical because the release train is to 
 hardly coupled and we have feature's using exact versions and that p2
won't let you update the plugins on their own ?

 ...or is there also some political agenda on how we provide these updates
?

 In any case - I think it would be worth finding a way to update these 
 technical and political limitations to make it easier to do timely
stop-ship bug updates?

 wdyt ?

 /max
 http://about.me/maxandersen
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