Latest TM.RSE and TM.Terminal builds have been published, composited, and contributed to Photon Simrel.
--- Latest RSE: * http://download.eclipse.org/tm/updates/3.7.100/repository/?d * http://download.eclipse.org/tm/updates/3.7.100/rse-repository-3.7.100.zip Latest Terminal: * http://download.eclipse.org/tm/terminal/updates/4.4milestones/20180611/?d *(NEW!) *Composite Site: http://download.eclipse.org/tm/repository/photon/?d *(This currently includes 3 Terminal milestones and 1 RSE milestone. Perhaps it should only include the two RC4/Final builds?)* *(NEW!) *Releng jobs to orchestrate copying from nightly / snapshot to stable URLs, then create the composite site: * https://ci.eclipse.org/tm/job/TM-Publish/ * https://ci.eclipse.org/tm/job/TM-Publish-Repo/ Update to Photon Simrel: https://git.eclipse.org/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build.git/commit/?id=d3065868ee6eac9b7adc8fe42ea6ae5cc10e1cb6 Cheers, Nick On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 5:18 AM, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> wrote: > Answers inline. > > On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 at 23:51, Nick Boldt <nbo...@redhat.com> wrote: > >> After more digging it seems that the TM.terminal bits built from master >> [1], published to the dev/nightly site [2], are built against Eclipse Mars >> [3], not Photon. >> >> I don't think this is wise, but I bet there's a technical reason (like >> guaranteeing backward compatibility for JDK 7?) so I'm not quite ready to >> just change this blindly. *WDYT?* >> > >> [1] https://ci.eclipse.org/tm/view/terminal/job/terminal-master/ >> [2] http://download.eclipse.org/tm/terminal/builds/development/nightly/ >> [3] http://git.eclipse.org/c/tm/org.eclipse.tm.terminal. >> git/tree/admin/pom-config.xml#n73 >> >> But, if we want to use the Photon-built bits in the TM or CDT >> contribution to the Simrel, I've added a new deployment step to the >> 4.8-based job [4], which will push bits here [5]. >> >> [4] https://ci.eclipse.org/tm/view/terminal/job/terminal-master-4.8/ >> [5] http://download.eclipse.org/tm/terminal/builds/photon/nightly/ >> >> *Should we use the Photon-stack based build bits instead?* >> > > Martin Oberhuber has recently requested that this remains built with > Mars/JDK 7 <https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tm-dev/msg01289.html>, > so no, we should not change at the moment. The terminal-master-4.8 is > supposed to be a validation only job. > > >> >> Also worthy of note: >> >> tm.terminal depends on CDT. The default master build uses 8.8.1 [6]; the >> Photon profile uses 9.4 [7]. >> >> *Is it bad to be shipping something destined to run with 9.x when we're >> building it against 8.x? Feels bad to me, but again, perhaps there's a >> reason for this ? * >> > > IIRC while CDT as a whole had a major version change, the individual > plug-ins in question here, cdt native, did not. The o.e.cdt.native.serial > bundle was 1.0.0 in CDT 8.8.1, and it is now 1.1.0 in CDT 9.5. So it is ok. > > >> >> [6] http://git.eclipse.org/c/tm/org.eclipse.tm.terminal. >> git/tree/admin/pom-config.xml#n81 >> [7] http://git.ec. At leastlipse.org/c/tm/org. >> eclipse.tm.terminal.git/tree/admin/pom-config.xml#n249 >> <http://git.eclipse.org/c/tm/org.eclipse.tm.terminal.git/tree/admin/pom-config.xml#n249> >> >> Finally, I discovered that the tm.terminal build also depends on tm.rse >> [8], whose build in turn also depends on tm.terminal [9]. This circular >> build-time dependency is worrisome... and should be broken. I honestly >> don't know which project to build first in order. >> >> We could merge the builds, move stuff around, etc. *Again, WDYT?* >> > > Yes, that is a good idea. This is what Doug was considering doing, but > because you stepped in a few months ago and got the TM builds working > again, and because of a general lack of contributions, the idea was > abandoned. Doug can probably comment more. > > >> >> [8] org.eclipse.tm.terminal.view.ui.rse depends >> on org.eclipse.rse.core, org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.files. >> core, org.eclipse.rse.ui >> [9] org.eclipse.rse.terminals.ui depends on org.eclipse.tm.terminal. >> control >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 11:39 AM, Doug Schaefer <dschae...@blackberry.com >> > wrote: >> >>> +1. I trust you there. I don’t know the Terminal well enough to know >>> whether the API changes in the deps would matter. >>> >>> >>> >>> (BTW, removed cross-project as we’re getting a bit specific to TM). >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto: >>> cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Boldt >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2018 11:13 AM >>> *To:* TM project developer discussions <tm-...@eclipse.org> >>> *Cc:* Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>; CDT >>> General developers list. <cdt-...@eclipse.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [tm-dev] [cdt-dev] TM >>> Terminal and RSE releases for Photon (was: Correct repo for CDT to be >>> referring to) >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug, >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you agree we should respin TM against the latest Orbit and Photon >>> deps? I'll assume so and try to find time today to get that built and >>> pushed to the milestone site. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Doug Schaefer < >>> dschae...@blackberry.com> wrote: >>> >>> CDT users use TM regularly, especially for Arduino and other embedded >>> targets. Haven’t seen anything drastically broken so we haven’t done >>> anything to it. I am a committer as well if a patch comes in. Other than >>> that it’s in deep maintenance mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* cdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cdt-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] >>> *On Behalf Of *Nick Boldt >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2018 9:25 AM >>> *To:* TM project developer discussions <tm-...@eclipse.org> >>> *Cc:* Cross project issues <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>; CDT >>> General developers list. <cdt-...@eclipse.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: [cdt-dev] [tm-dev] TM Terminal and RSE releases for >>> Photon (was: Correct repo for CDT to be referring to) >>> >>> >>> >>> I stepped in recently to do releng for tm.rse & update it to build >>> against Photon (because JBoss Tools requires it) but as yet I haven't done >>> anything for tm.terminal, as I believe CDT Doug's been running the show >>> there (because CDT requires it). >>> >>> >>> >>> If he's OK with me stepping in to help there too, I can find time this >>> week to make sure there are new tm.terminal and tm.rse builds based on >>> Photon.0.RC4. Can anyone on this list commit to smoke testing the builds? >>> Other than "the tests pass in Jenkins" and "I can install everything from >>> the update sites" I don't know how to verify the builds' contents are >>> working as expected. >>> >>> >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ni Nick, >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for looking into this. I (on behalf of CDT) am not publishing the >>> TM builds, simply consuming them when I noticed the discrepancy. Are you >>> running releng for TM at the moment, or is this a continuing case of TM >>> lacking the devs it needs? >>> >>> >>> >>> AFAICT, the correct TM is being published, but from an unstable URL, so >>> end users are getting the right version. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonah >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~ >>> Jonah Graham >>> Kichwa Coders Ltd. >>> www.kichwacoders.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 at 13:49, Nick Boldt <nbo...@redhat.com> wrote: >>> >>> The nightly site contains something newer (2018/03/14) that the last >>> milestone site (2018/03/12). >>> >>> >>> >>> You can use p2 browser [1] to explore the sites [2] and pick an IU to >>> investigate versions: >>> >>> >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/nickboldt/p2-browser >>> >>> >>> >>> [2] https://imagebin.ca/v/44v9BWPVZFu6 >>> >>> >>> >>> Given we're at RC4, it would probably be wise to release the 03/14 build >>> to the milestone site. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can cobble a job together to do the publishing, unless you already >>> have something you're using to publish updates. >>> >>> >>> >>> I notice the last tm.terminal build [3] was based on Photon.0.M6 so we >>> should probably update that & rebuild it too to make sure it still works >>> against Photon.RC4. >>> >>> >>> >>> [3] https://ci.eclipse.org/tm/view/terminal/job/terminal-master/ >>> >>> >>> >>> I suppose I should also do a TM.RSE release [4] this week too as the >>> last build was back in March, also based on earlier Photon deps. >>> >>> >>> >>> [4] https://ci.eclipse.org/tm/view/rse/job/rse_master/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Jonah Graham <jo...@kichwacoders.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi TM folk, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am doing a review of CDT's target platform >>> <http://git.eclipse.org/c/cdt/org.eclipse.cdt.git/tree/releng/org.eclipse.cdt.target/cdt.target> >>> for the 9.5 branch (in preparation for Photon release) and I came across a >>> *minor* anomaly I wanted to resolve. >>> >>> >>> >>> At the moment CDT uses a build from 2 days before what TM is >>> contributing in the simrel. >>> >>> >>> >>> CDT uses: http://download.eclipse.org/tm/terminal/updates/4.4milestones/ >>> >>> Simrel uses: http://download.eclipse.org/tm/terminal/builds/ >>> development/nightly/ >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't really want to have CDT point at a development/nightly build on >>> the 9.5 branch. Is there any difference between the two. Does TM plan to >>> publish a URL suitable for building against Photon? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jonah >>> >>> >>> ~~~ >>> Jonah Graham >>> Kichwa Coders Ltd. >>> www.kichwacoders.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> tm-dev mailing list >>> tm-...@eclipse.org >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Nick Boldt >>> >>> Principal Software Engineer, RHCSA >>> >>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio >>> >>> IM: @nickboldt / @nboldt / http://nick.divbyzero.com >>> >>> <https://red.ht/sig> >>> >>> *TRIED. TESTED. 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