Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Ed Willink

  
  
Hi


On 23/05/2014 01:43, Wayne Beaton
  wrote:


  
  
  At the bottom of your project's PMI page, 
Which page is that? The main view, or one of the tabs such Edit? For
the Project or for the Release?
if
  you are logged in as a project committer, 
Presumably this is just logged in or do we still have multiple
identities and so I'm using the wrong one?
you
  should see a tray with a "project Committers" item. 
Can't see that anywhere
Click
  that. In that list, you'll see an option to open the IP Log
  generator. It will take you to the right place.

Fortunately Marcus provided the underlying link, thanks

 Regards

  Ed

  

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Stephan Herrmann

On 05/23/2014 08:15 AM, Ed Willink wrote:

On 23/05/2014 01:43, Wayne Beaton wrote:


At the bottom of your project's PMI page,

Which page is that? The main view, or one of the tabs such Edit? For the 
Project or for the Release?


I, too, never saw it because it's well hidden in plain view:
for me (in FF) it doesn't look like part of the page.
In fact it occupies the area that FF uses as its statusline,
so when you hover over any link, the tray is hidden.

HTH,
Stephan
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Greg Watson
The Parallel Tools Platform (PTP) Committers link does nothing when I click 
on it (in Safari).

Greg

On May 22, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

 The IP Log generator is not itself part of the PMI (though I do have a new 
 PMI-based implementation almost ready for deployment; more on that later).
 
 At the bottom of your project's PMI page, if you are logged in as a project 
 committer, you should see a tray with a project Committers item. Click 
 that. In that list, you'll see an option to open the IP Log generator. It 
 will take you to the right place.
 
 If your project's release includes subprojects (e.g. Eclipse or Web Tools), 
 open the PMI record for the release and open the tray item to select the IP 
 Log entry for the release (it will automatically open the IP Log generator 
 including the subprojects participating in your release).
 
 I hope this makes sense. I'm feeling a little dozy myself...
 
 Wayne
 
 On 05/22/2014 03:47 PM, Ed Willink wrote:
 Hi
 
 I must be dozy.
 
 I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I can't find 
 it in either location.
 
 Regards
 
 Ed Willink
 
 On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:
 Greetings folks.
 
 Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.
 
 If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Ed Willink

Hi

Wow! It was almost designed to be invisible. Very successful.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=435661 raised.

(It's equally 'invisible' on many pages since its an attachment to the 
lower edge of the browser frame.)


Regards

Ed Willink

On 23/05/2014 07:45, Stephan Herrmann wrote:

On 05/23/2014 08:15 AM, Ed Willink wrote:

On 23/05/2014 01:43, Wayne Beaton wrote:


At the bottom of your project's PMI page,
Which page is that? The main view, or one of the tabs such Edit? For 
the Project or for the Release?


I, too, never saw it because it's well hidden in plain view:
for me (in FF) it doesn't look like part of the page.
In fact it occupies the area that FF uses as its statusline,
so when you hover over any link, the tray is hidden.

HTH,
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Wayne Beaton
Given our limited resources, I feel that we've done a reasonably good 
job with it. If there are areas that we can improve, then I appreciate 
the bugs.


Yes, it was my intention to make it low profile. Invisible? No. But my 
intent was that it was something extra for committers and didn't want to 
otherwise interrupt the general look of the page. I captured this in the 
documentation. Maybe that decision was wrong and I'm fully on board with 
trying to sort out a alternative solution.


I'm disappointed in this tone. While I appreciate respectful and 
friendly ribbing, the tone here is just plain mean. Frankly Ed, I think 
that I've been very responsive to the issues that you've raised 
regarding the PMI and deserve a little more respect than this.


Wayne

On 05/23/2014 12:00 PM, Ed Willink wrote:

Hi

Wow! It was almost designed to be invisible. Very successful.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=435661 raised.

(It's equally 'invisible' on many pages since its an attachment to the 
lower edge of the browser frame.)


Regards

Ed Willink

On 23/05/2014 07:45, Stephan Herrmann wrote:

On 05/23/2014 08:15 AM, Ed Willink wrote:

On 23/05/2014 01:43, Wayne Beaton wrote:


At the bottom of your project's PMI page,
Which page is that? The main view, or one of the tabs such Edit? For 
the Project or for the Release?


I, too, never saw it because it's well hidden in plain view:
for me (in FF) it doesn't look like part of the page.
In fact it occupies the area that FF uses as its statusline,
so when you hover over any link, the tray is hidden.

HTH,
Stephan
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Ed Willink

  
  
Hi Wayne

I'm sorry if my ribbing went too far. I was almost admiring the way
that a non-standard ergonomic could have such an unexpected effect.

 Regards

  Ed


On 23/05/2014 17:24, Wayne Beaton
  wrote:


  
  Given our limited resources, I feel that we've done a reasonably
  good job with it. If there are areas that we can improve, then I
  appreciate the bugs.
  
  Yes, it was my intention to make it low profile. Invisible? No.
  But my intent was that it was something extra for committers and
  didn't want to otherwise interrupt the general look of the page. I
  captured this in the documentation. Maybe that decision was wrong
  and I'm fully on board with trying to sort out a alternative
  solution.
  
  I'm disappointed in this tone. While I appreciate respectful and
  friendly ribbing, the tone here is just plain mean. Frankly Ed, I
  think that I've been very responsive to the issues that you've
  raised regarding the PMI and deserve a little more respect than
  this.
  
  Wayne
  
  On 05/23/2014 12:00 PM, Ed Willink
wrote:
  
  Hi



Wow! It was almost designed to be invisible. Very successful. 

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=435661
raised. 

(It's equally 'invisible' on many pages since its an attachment
to the lower edge of the browser frame.) 

 Regards 

 Ed Willink 

On 23/05/2014 07:45, Stephan Herrmann wrote: 
On 05/23/2014 08:15 AM, Ed Willink
  wrote: 
  On 23/05/2014 01:43, Wayne Beaton
wrote: 
 
  At the bottom of your project's PMI page, 

Which page is that? The main view, or one of the tabs such
Edit? For the Project or for the Release? 
  
  
  I, too, never saw it because it's well hidden in plain view: 
  for me (in FF) it doesn't look like part of the page. 
  In fact it occupies the area that FF uses as its statusline, 
  so when you hover over any link, the "tray" is hidden. 
  
  HTH, 
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Wayne Beaton

I've moved the Committer Commands into the left nav. The tray is gone.

I'll chalk it up as a failed experiment.

All: please continue to raise bugs against Community/Project Management 
 Portal as you find issues with the PMI.


Wayne


On 05/23/2014 08:26 AM, Greg Watson wrote:
The Parallel Tools Platform (PTP) Committers link does nothing when 
I click on it (in Safari).


Greg

On May 22, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote:

The IP Log generator is not itself part of the PMI (though I do have 
a new PMI-based implementation almost ready for deployment; more on 
that later).


At the bottom of your project's PMI page, if you are logged in as a 
project committer, you should see a tray with a project 
Committers item. Click that. In that list, you'll see an option to 
open the IP Log generator. It will take you to the right place.


If your project's release includes subprojects (e.g. Eclipse or Web 
Tools), open the PMI record for the release and open the tray item to 
select the IP Log entry for the release (it will automatically open 
the IP Log generator including the subprojects participating in your 
release).


I hope this makes sense. I'm feeling a little dozy myself...

Wayne

On 05/22/2014 03:47 PM, Ed Willink wrote:

Hi

I must be dozy.

I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I 
can't find it in either location.


Regards

Ed Willink

On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:

Greetings folks.

Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.

If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.

Thanks,

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Markus Knauer
If I'm not mistaken this one should be the correct URL for you:

http://eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mmt.qvtd

Regards,
Markus


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Ed Willink e...@willink.me.uk wrote:

  Hi

 I must be dozy.

 I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I can't
 find it in either location.

 Regards

 Ed Willink


 On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:

 Greetings folks.

 Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.

 If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.

 Thanks,

 Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Doug Schaefer
Also, do we raise bugs when we see issues? There are at least two former 
committers who's contributions are showing up in the Contributors section for 
CDT and I can't see a way on the page to make the correction.

Doug.


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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

I have a couple of questions about the logs:

1. How do you control which git repos are included? It allows you to adjust the 
set of projects, but how does it know which repos are associated with a project?

2. What are we expected to do with this list? For PTP, the Contributors and 
Their Contributions section contains over 4000 entries. Are we expected to 
review them all?

Thanks,
Greg

On May 22, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Markus Knauer wrote:

If I'm not mistaken this one should be the correct URL for you:

http://eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mmt.qvtd

Regards,
Markus


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Ed Willink 
e...@willink.me.ukmailto:e...@willink.me.uk wrote:
Hi

I must be dozy.

I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I can't find it 
in either location.

Regards

Ed Willink


On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:
Greetings folks.

Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.

If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.

Thanks,

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Wayne Beaton
The IP Log generator is not itself part of the PMI (though I do have a 
new PMI-based implementation almost ready for deployment; more on that 
later).


At the bottom of your project's PMI page, if you are logged in as a 
project committer, you should see a tray with a project Committers 
item. Click that. In that list, you'll see an option to open the IP Log 
generator. It will take you to the right place.


If your project's release includes subprojects (e.g. Eclipse or Web 
Tools), open the PMI record for the release and open the tray item to 
select the IP Log entry for the release (it will automatically open the 
IP Log generator including the subprojects participating in your release).


I hope this makes sense. I'm feeling a little dozy myself...

Wayne

On 05/22/2014 03:47 PM, Ed Willink wrote:

Hi

I must be dozy.

I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I 
can't find it in either location.


Regards

Ed Willink

On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:

Greetings folks.

Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.

If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.

Thanks,

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Wayne Beaton

Open a bug against Community/IP Log Tool

The problem is likely that the commits use email addresses that we don't 
know about. This sometimes happens after committers change jobs and 
email addresses.


Wayne

On 05/22/2014 04:35 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Also, do we raise bugs when we see issues? There are at least two 
former committers who's contributions are showing up in the 
Contributors section for CDT and I can't see a way on the page to 
make the correction.


Doug.


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tomorrow


I have a couple of questions about the logs:

1. How do you control which git repos are included? It allows you to 
adjust the set of projects, but how does it know which repos are 
associated with a project?


2. What are we expected to do with this list? For PTP, the 
Contributors and Their Contributions section contains over 4000 
entries. Are we expected to review them all?


Thanks,
Greg

On May 22, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Markus Knauer wrote:


If I'm not mistaken this one should be the correct URL for you:

http://eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mmt.qvtd

Regards,
Markus


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Ed Willink e...@willink.me.uk 
mailto:e...@willink.me.uk wrote:


Hi

I must be dozy.

I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I
can't find it in either location.

Regards

Ed Willink


On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:

Greetings folks.

Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.

If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.

Thanks,

Wayne
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Doug Schaefer
I already have, check your inbox. :)

I'm wondering if it's the same problem as Greg's. Is anyone else seeing this, 
where committers commits are showing up in the contributions list?

Doug.


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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

Open a bug against Community/IP Log Tool

The problem is likely that the commits use email addresses that we don't know 
about. This sometimes happens after committers change jobs and email addresses.

Wayne

On 05/22/2014 04:35 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:
Also, do we raise bugs when we see issues? There are at least two former 
committers who's contributions are showing up in the Contributors section for 
CDT and I can't see a way on the page to make the correction.

Doug.


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Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

I have a couple of questions about the logs:

1. How do you control which git repos are included? It allows you to adjust the 
set of projects, but how does it know which repos are associated with a project?

2. What are we expected to do with this list? For PTP, the Contributors and 
Their Contributions section contains over 4000 entries. Are we expected to 
review them all?

Thanks,
Greg

On May 22, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Markus Knauer wrote:

If I'm not mistaken this one should be the correct URL for you:

http://eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=modeling.mmt.qvtd

Regards,
Markus


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Ed Willink 
e...@willink.me.ukmailto:e...@willink.me.uk wrote:
Hi

I must be dozy.

I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I can't find it 
in either location.

Regards

Ed Willink


On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote:
Greetings folks.

Gentle reminder that IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow.

If circumstances require an extension, please let me know ASAP.

Thanks,

Wayne
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