Re: [crossfire] [Rebootworld] The true (hi)story
I know Lalo already replied to this, but I find the topic so funny that I'll just reply, too. - where is the super technology that was used to create the new world? This is valid, nothing funny. - why do inhabitants of this world fighting, instead of cooperating to become more powerful? The same could be asked of the people of Earth. Not seeing much of this around. There is definitely an end coming to Earth, when Sun reaches the end of its main sequence stage and goes red giant, so the situation is actually similar (except we know approximately the absolute maximum amount of time we have left before our world is incinerated). - why aren't inhabitants formed to this history during their childhood, and left in ignorance? you'd definitely want endoctrined people to work together and don't waste time fighting each other Again, look at Earth. Quite a few people have no idea of the atrocities of the crusades, for example. And I would guess some don't even know about the world wars and there are definitely some who claim that there was no holocaust. And even those who know history (as it is written in their respective countries) still go around killing, stealing, whatever. While the Elves should probably be better, why should be think the humans of rebootworld would be any saner than those here on Earth? Asking these whys is a *very* good question, unfortunately they are questions that apply to Earth as well, so perhaps that is rationale enough for them to apply to rebootworld as well? Rationality, reason and human behaviour do not seem to belong together - as sad as that is. -Juha -- --- | Juha Jäykkä, juo...@utu.fi| | home: http://www.utu.fi/~juolja/ | --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] [Rebootworld] The true (hi)story
Hello. = Core history of the new Crossfire world = snip Based on your history, I wonder: - will we have research lab on magic/technology, aimed at improving the powers of this new world? - where is the super technology that was used to create the new world? - why do inhabitants of this world fighting, instead of cooperating to become more powerful? - why aren't inhabitants formed to this history during their childhood, and left in ignorance? you'd definitely want endoctrined people to work together and don't waste time fighting each other Nicolas -- http://nicolas.weeger.org [Petit site d'images, de textes, de code, bref de l'aléatoire !] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] [Rebootworld] The true (hi)story
quoth Nicolas Weeger as of Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:02:46 +0100: Hello. Based on your history, I wonder: - will we have research lab on magic/technology, aimed at improving the powers of this new world? The science of the world-yet-to-be-renamed is too far beyond what the younger peoples can understand. Magic labs, yes, sure. There seem to be a bunch of those around in the 1.x world, no? ;-) - where is the super technology that was used to create the new world? Most of it was the gods, actually. As for the people-yet-to-be-renamed, I'm not sure yet, still pondering their fate. Maybe they're travelling the nothingness trying to locate worlds where the Devourers are reaching into and combat their influence before it's too late; when that fails, it becomes necessary to contact the local gods and bring a sample to New World. Maybe they're preparing the people to be able to share their magic/ science. And it's a difficult to understand plan that will take a long time; maybe too long, if the Anti-Gods arrive first. Or maybe they believe the way to do that is to pick a select few, and that's part of what the hero project is really about. Or maybe they have their own agenda. - why do inhabitants of this world fighting, instead of cooperating to become more powerful? For a number of silly reasons. Many (most) don't believe this story; remember, it happened a long time ago, for most of them, and exactly how and why it happened, they have only the words of the people-yet-to-be-renamed and the elves. A subset of those who don't believe is those who, even if they heard the story, would be too simple to understand it, or those who would understand it and blame it on you; that's a large portion of the monsters in the game. Others know all about it, but don't expect the consequences will reach them in their lifetimes. After all, in our world, every Christian supposedly believes in the Judgement, but how many do you see preparing for it? A lot, but hardly the majority. Many simply don't believe there's anything they can do about it; those are, if you will, the fatalists. When the Anti-Gods come, it's over, so I'd better take as much as I can from life. I'd expect that to be a rather common view in the Church of Gorokh, for example. Finally, some are on the side of the Anti-Gods. Some think the worlds *should* be destroyed, for either philosophical or emotional reasons, or passed-down doctrine, or simply insanity. Some are in it out of interest; reaping the benefits they get as cultists, and knowing that these benefits will grow the stronger the Devourers influence gets, until a day when it abruptly ends ;-) - why aren't inhabitants formed to this history during their childhood, and left in ignorance? you'd definitely want endoctrined people to work together and don't waste time fighting each other In the first few generations, yes. Then people start finding more pressing things to do. Then things degenerate into myth and the younger ones stop believing it. And when the unbelievers grow up they choose not to tell the story to *their* children. And in a few centuries life is pretty much back to what it was before the Fall, except with stranger neighbours. best, Lalo Martins -- So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable. - http://lalomartins.info/ GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] [Rebootworld] The true (hi)story
Hi (and Merry Xmas to all those to which I haven't had the opportunity to say so yet :) ), Le lundi 29 décembre 2008, Lalo Martins a écrit : = Core history of the new Crossfire world = snip Lalo Martins Just a small note: please find replacements to coin for the term Khelens. The original name relates to a setting that is not specifically related to Crossfire and existed long before it. Given that you are not in sync with that universe but elected to write your own one, I respectfully request that you use another name instead. If to ever be reused, I'd also ask the terms of Normania (The Biggest Port of the Old World after Khelens), Mäossis (Those Who live in the Great Forest with us Fenxes), Fax (the Fenx that travelled far from the Great Forest), Altamira (The Ship that Roamed Seven Skies) and Sannista (The Flying Ship) to also be changed. They all came from various short novels or fantasy stories, and would obviously clash with the events described in Rebootworld if changed the way described. Yours, -- Lauwenmark. Drive defensively: buy a tank. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] [Rebootworld] The true (hi)story
quoth Lauwenmark Akkendrittae as of Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:09:04 +0100: Hi (and Merry Xmas to all those to which I haven't had the opportunity to say so yet :) ), Just a small note: please find replacements to coin for the term Khelens. The original name relates to a setting that is not specifically related to Crossfire and existed long before it. Given that you are not in sync with that universe but elected to write your own one, I respectfully request that you use another name instead. If to ever be reused, I'd also ask the terms of Normania (The Biggest Port of the Old World after Khelens), Mäossis (Those Who live in the Great Forest with us Fenxes), Fax (the Fenx that travelled far from the Great Forest), Altamira (The Ship that Roamed Seven Skies) and Sannista (The Flying Ship) to also be changed. They all came from various short novels or fantasy stories, and would obviously clash with the events described in Rebootworld if changed the way described. All right, thanks for the heads-up; I don't want to re-use any terms that we don't have the rights to. (Sadly, that also means that Mithrandir and others will be gone as well.) best, Lalo Martins -- So many of our dreams at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable. - http://lalomartins.info/ GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
