[crossfire] Why have you banned my CVS access, And why do you hate mlab (I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for 1.9)

2006-02-05 Thread Miguel Ghobangieno
Why have you banned my CVS access, and why do you hate
mlab? I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for
1.9. It's better to have it in non-dirified format for
1.9 then not in at all.

Also I am offended at lauwernmark and errac's plot to
change mlab's culture.



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Re: [crossfire] Why have you banned my CVS access, And why do you hate mlab (I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for 1.9)

2006-02-05 Thread Brendan Lally
On 2/4/06, Miguel Ghobangieno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why have you banned my CVS access,

You'd need to ask the person who banned you, but criticising other
developers in a cvs commit message would probably have a lot to do
with it.

 and why do you hate
 mlab?

I do not hate mlab, I think they are some of the most interesting maps
in the game.

 I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for
 1.9. It's better to have it in non-dirified format for
 1.9 then not in at all.

That's a point of contention.

 Also I am offended at lauwernmark and errac's plot to
 change mlab's culture.

To a great extent I would agree, but this does not excuse criticising
them in a CVS commit message for a commit it is not clear should have
been made.

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Re: [crossfire] Why have you banned my CVS access, And why do you hate mlab (I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for 1.9)

2006-02-05 Thread Mark Wedel
Miguel Ghobangieno wrote:
 Why have you banned my CVS access, and why do you hate
 mlab? I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for
 1.9. It's better to have it in non-dirified format for
 1.9 then not in at all.

  As per past discussions, some people would disagree with that statement.  
Past 
discussion was that mlab should get cleaned up, or certainly, not made any 
worse.

 
 Also I am offended at lauwernmark and errac's plot to
 change mlab's culture.

  A lot of people are offended at the culture/plot line currently in mlab.

  I removed your CVS access for the following:

1) Using offensive language and criticizing other developers in a CVS commit 
message.  That is not appropriate for the messages, or the right place for such 
comments.
2) Committing hundreds of new files into a flat directory structure when 
previous discussions was this is not appropriate.


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Re: [crossfire] Why have you banned my CVS access, And why do you hate mlab (I just finished mlabhell and I want mlab in for 1.9)

2006-02-05 Thread ERACC
On Sunday 05 February 2006 03:43 pm
Brendan Lally wrote:

[...]
  Also I am offended at lauwernmark and errac's plot to
  change mlab's culture.
 
 To a great extent I would agree, but this does not excuse criticising
 them in a CVS commit message for a commit it is not clear should have
 been made.

There is no plot, fellows. Basically this is an overreaction to an
IRC discussion. Since the entity known as mikeeusa is banned from
the IRC channel in any guise this raises the question as to how
mikeeusa was in the loop to even know about this. There was nothing
said that would not be said if mikeeusa were in the IRC channel but
even so one wonders how mikeeusa was informed.

Regardless, the quote from IRC is:

 eracc Speaking of mik. Katia mentioned on private DM
 messages for metalforge that mik said he had
 maps in the game in CVS that are anti-woman and one
 place where one gets a reward of a 14 year old girl
 in his maps. Anyone else know about this?
 lauwenmark eracc: I think that if such a thing is in CVS,
 then it needs to be corrected - and the offender
 banned. That's pretty much the kind of insulting
 stuff that's disgusting me

Which does not even hint at a plot to change mlab's culture. It is
speculative discussion as to what may or may not be in mlab and
whether or not it is appropriate for the game. In the opinion of
myself and lauwenmark (likely others as well) such things are /not/
appropriate and should not be included in crossfire. I log the IRC
channel for OP reasons and can provide context for anyone (not banned
from the channel) who wants to see more of the conversation.

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