New toy: SSLbar

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Schear
It's a toolbar for Mozilla (and related web browsers) that automatically 
displays the SHA1 or MD5 fingerprint of the SSL certificate when you visit 
an SSL secured web site. You could of course click the little padlock icon 
and dig through a couple of dialogs to see it, but it's much easier when 
it's right there in front of you on the toolbar.

So, what's the point?

If you look at the fingerprint of an SSL certificate, and compare this 
against a fingerprint that you obtain from the site's owner via another 
channel (IIP, email, PGP-signed web page, etc.) you can be absolutely 
certain that the certificate is legitimate, and that you are exchanging 
encrypted data with the persons(s) you intended to.

A more engaging description of the above - as well as SSLbar itself - can 
be found at 
https://194.109.142.142:1984/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsslbar.metropipe.nethttp://sslbar.metropipe.net

Enjoy.

A Jobless Recovery is like a Breadless Sandwich.
-- Steve Schear 
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Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site

2003-06-24 Thread Ian Grigg
http://sslbar.metropipe.net/

Fantastic news:  coders are starting to work
on the failed security model of secure browsing
and improve it where it matters, in the browser.

This plugin for Mozilla shows the SSL certificate's
fingerprint on the web browser's toolbar.

It's a small step for the user, but a giant leap
for userland security.  It means that someone is
thinking about solving the hacks against secure
browsing.  Caching and distributing techniques
for certificates can't be that far off...

-- 
iang

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Re: New toy: SSLbar

2003-06-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin

It's a toolbar for Mozilla (and related web browsers) that automatically 
displays the SHA1 or MD5 fingerprint of the SSL certificate when you visit 
an SSL secured web site. You could of course click the little padlock icon 
and dig through a couple of dialogs to see it, but it's much easier when 
it's right there in front of you on the toolbar.

So, what's the point?

If you look at the fingerprint of an SSL certificate, and compare this 
against a fingerprint that you obtain from the site's owner via another 
channel (IIP, email, PGP-signed web page, etc.) you can be absolutely 
certain that the certificate is legitimate, and that you are exchanging 
encrypted data with the persons(s) you intended to.



Please don't take this personally -- I'm speaking in general terms 
here, rather than casting aspersions on anyone in particular.  I've
deliberately deleted any personal names from this reply, to underscore 
that point.

From a security point of view, why should anyone download any plug-in 
from an unknown party?  In this very specific case, why should someone 
download a a plug-in that by its own description is playing around in 
the crypto arena.  How do we know it's not going to steal keys?  Is the 
Mozilla API strong enough that it can't possibly do that?  Is it 
implemented well enough that we trust it?  (I see that in this case, 
the guts of the plug-in are in Javascript.  Given how often Javascript 
has played a starring role in assorted security flaws, that doesn't 
reassure me.  But I do appreciate open source.)


--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb (me)
http://www.wilyhacker.com (2nd edition of Firewalls book)



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Re: Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site

2003-06-24 Thread Victor . Duchovni
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Ian Grigg wrote:

 http://sslbar.metropipe.net/

 Fantastic news:  coders are starting to work
 on the failed security model of secure browsing
 and improve it where it matters, in the browser.

 This plugin for Mozilla shows the SSL certificate's
 fingerprint on the web browser's toolbar.


How many users can remember MD5 checksums??? If they were rendered into
something pronounceable via S/Key like dictionaries it might be more
useful...

-- 
Viktor.

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Re: Mozilla tool to self-verify HTTPS site

2003-06-24 Thread Ian Grigg
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 How many users can remember MD5 checksums??? If they were rendered into
 something pronounceable via S/Key like dictionaries it might be more
 useful...

You forgot this bit:

 It's a small step for the user, but a giant leap
 for userland security.  It means that someone is
 thinking about solving the hacks against secure
 browsing.  Caching and distributing techniques
 for certificates can't be that far off...

-- 
iang

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