excellent wifi security page

2006-04-13 Thread Travis H.
http://www.drizzle.com/~aboba/IEEE/
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Re: Secure Blue from IBM

2006-04-13 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:06:38AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

   With Secure Blue, data is encrypted and decrypted as it runs through a
   processor, according to IBM. It is maintained encrypted in the device
   memory, or RAM. One of the few times data would not be scrambled is
   when it is actually displayed. 
 
 http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-6059276.html

Easy enough for ephemeral data (RAM, network, ...), but what do they
propose for stored data? Is this an architecture for general-purpose
computers, or for special-purpose media devices? Is more detail available?

As soon as data is stored, new key management issues come to the surface.
I for one would not want to lose my hard-drive if the CPU is fried...

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Re: NY Times reports: Documents show link between ATT and NSA

2006-04-13 Thread lorenzo
On 4/13/06, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/us/nationalspecial3/13nsa.html
[...]
 Now Mr. Klein and a few company documents he saved have emerged as key
 elements in a class-action lawsuit filed against ATT on Jan. 31 by a
 civil liberties group, the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The suit
 accuses the company of helping the security agency invade its customers'
 privacy.

Am I wrong or if we were living in a DRM- or Trusted Computing- World,
those documents probably would be unreadable, if they were digital
documents? Also they could have prevented printing of the documents,
and so on.

Of course, the human is still the weaker ring, but this is not of much
help in such cases.

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Re: NY Times reports: Documents show link between ATT and NSA

2006-04-13 Thread mis
in this case, poorly chosen example.

it's hard to not print documents used by the technician(s) to install
splitters in the fibers and specify the details of wiring in and between
various racks and cabinets.

On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:04:07PM +0200, lorenzo wrote:
 On 4/13/06, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/us/nationalspecial3/13nsa.html
 [...]
  Now Mr. Klein and a few company documents he saved have emerged as key
  elements in a class-action lawsuit filed against ATT on Jan. 31 by a
  civil liberties group, the Electronic Frontier Foundation. The suit
  accuses the company of helping the security agency invade its customers'
  privacy.
 
 Am I wrong or if we were living in a DRM- or Trusted Computing- World,
 those documents probably would be unreadable, if they were digital
 documents? Also they could have prevented printing of the documents,
 and so on.
 
 Of course, the human is still the weaker ring, but this is not of much
 help in such cases.
 
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Re: NY Times reports: Documents show link between ATT and NSA

2006-04-13 Thread Chris Palmer
lorenzo writes:

 Am I wrong or if we were living in a DRM- or Trusted Computing- World,
 those documents probably would be unreadable, if they were digital
 documents? Also they could have prevented printing of the documents,
 and so on.

Consider the massive effort Daniel Ellsberg undertook when leaking the
Pentagon Papers.  He had to photcopy tons of stuff.  If you had a DRM'd
document that you couldn't print or email out, you could use your camera
to take a picture of the document on your computer's display.  (For
example.)


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