Re: Quantum RNG (was: Use of TPM chip for RNG)

2006-07-08 Thread Travis H.

On 7/4/06, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 7/4/06, Andrea Pasquinucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 About RNG, does someone in the list have any comment, ideas on this
 http://www.idquantique.com/products/quantis.htm

Why? Noise-based RNGs are just as random and just as quantum. :)


Hella fast.  Most of the RNGs based on electrical noise are not
particularly pure -- some even use noisy diodes, which are decidedly
predictable.  Those that bother to isolate out one noise phenomenon or
another sacrifice speed, and the average consumer won't have the
technical background to judge them on anything else.  Sampling faster
gives more bits, but no more randomness.  Overall, you're going to be
limited by temperature with electrical noise phenomena.

On the other hand, the quantis device appears to be simple,
straightforward, and clean.  But it's all sealed up in an opaque
container.  I asked them some questions about it and the person I was
speaking with didn't seem to understand why anyone would care about
what's in the module.

Note that they sell QC endpoints as well.  Very interesting company.
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Re: Quantum RNG (was: Use of TPM chip for RNG)

2006-07-04 Thread Andrea Pasquinucci
About RNG, does someone in the list have any comment, ideas on this

http://www.idquantique.com/products/quantis.htm

Quantis is a physical random number generator exploiting an elementary 
quantum optics process. Photons - light particles - are sent one by one 
onto a semi-transparent mirror and detected. The exclusive events 
(reflection - transmission) are associated to 0 - 1 bit values.

Just curious of your opinion.

Andrea
 
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Re: Quantum RNG (was: Use of TPM chip for RNG)

2006-07-04 Thread Taral

On 7/4/06, Andrea Pasquinucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

About RNG, does someone in the list have any comment, ideas on this

http://www.idquantique.com/products/quantis.htm


Why? Noise-based RNGs are just as random and just as quantum. :)

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