Re: unintended consequences?

2007-08-09 Thread John Levine
 Does that mean that the new fiber is less tappable?

Somehow, I suspect that Corning and the relevant authorities have been
in touch to work out any problems.

Corning is a politically very well connected company.  Amory Houghton,
a member of the family that has controlled the company since its
founding in 1851, was company CEO from 1965-84, and was then the
member of Congress from my district from 1986-2005.  His father was
CEO and later ambassador to France.  His grandfather was CEO and later
member of Congress and then ambassador to first Germany and later
Britain.  You get the idea.

R's,
John


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unintended consequences?

2007-08-08 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
I recently saw a news story about a new kind of fiber optic cable from
Corning -- it has a much smaller bending radius.  (See
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/08/06/100141306/index.htm?postversion=2007072303
and
http://www.corning.com/media_center/press_releases/2007/2007072301.aspx)
The problem is that when fiber is bent too sharply, the light escapes.
Of course, that's the rumored way that, umm, agencies tap fiber: they
bend it enough that some light escapes, but not too much.  That trick
won't work nearly as well with the new fiber, which is reportedly 100x
more bendable.  Does that mean that the new fiber is less tappable?



--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

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Re: unintended consequences?

2007-08-08 Thread Ed Gerck
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
 Does that mean that the new fiber is less tappable?

No change, notwithstanding anecdotal references on fiber bending
as used for tapping.

Tapping a fiber can be done without much notice by matching the
index of refraction outside the outer fiber layer, after abrasion
and etching to reach that layer. There is no need for bending,
which might not be physically possible (eg, in a thick cable bundle),
would increase propagation losses beyond that caused by the tapped
signal power itself, and might create detectable backward
propagating waves (BPWs are monitored to detect fiber breach).

Low-loss taps are essential. A tap must extract a portion of
the through-signal. This, however, should not have the effect of
significantly reducing the level of the remaining signal. For
example, if one-quarter of the incident signal is extracted, then
there is a 1.25 db loss in the remaining through-signal, which
can easily be detected.

Cheers,
Ed Gerck

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