[cryptography] World-class protracted social engineering [was: Re: Key escrow 2012]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ianG i...@iang.org writes: The crypto wars were about opening up that battlefield so that open source could start to experiment with lots and lots of alternatives. The reason we lost the war was because we thought we'd won it. We were tricked. What actually happened was a high profile weapon - the export control - was loosened up enough just enough to make many think we'd won. All the low-profile weapons were left in place. It's world-class protracted social engineering. Orchestrated by whom? - -- -- StealthMonger stealthmon...@nym.mixmin.net Long, random latency is part of the price of Internet anonymity. anonget: Is this anonymous browsing, or what? http://groups.google.ws/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/073f34abb668df33?dmode=sourceoutput=gplain stealthmail: Hide whether you're doing email, or when, or with whom. mailto:stealthsu...@nym.mixmin.net?subject=send%20index.html Key: mailto:stealthsu...@nym.mixmin.net?subject=send%20stealthmonger-key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.9 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAk966TIACgkQDkU5rhlDCl66JgCeI1PW1ILSEnAwBkpcShILkfkl nLgAnRmSYYe/csO9kWrDwk4uUX0Cvawa =/JP9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography
Re: [cryptography] World-class protracted social engineering [was: Re: Key escrow 2012]
On 2012-04-03 11:25 PM, StealthMonger wrote: It's world-class protracted social engineering. Orchestrated by whom? You attribute too much competence to our enemies. The problem is that our tools are unsatisfactory, no one wants to use them. They need improvement. One tool that works and is widely used is the vpn. vpns cross borders, with the result that the Chinese economy has most of its management outside the grasp of the Chinese state, which strikes me as a pretty big step towards the cypherpunk economy. But aside from that one success, the problem is that we are not that good. Fortunately our opponents are worse. ___ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography