DMCA + ROT13 + Smashmouth Lawyer Strong Crypto

[Scott Guthery]

In general, we no longer need strong crypto.  DMCA
plus ROT13 and a smashmouth lawyer suffices. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7/6/02 1:47 AM
Subject: Re:  New Chips Can Keep a Tight Rein on Consumers

Pete Chown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Peter Gutmann wrote:
Actually I'm amazed no printer vendor has ever gone after companies
who
produce third-party Smartchips for remanufactured printer cartridges.
This
sounds like the perfect thing to hit with the DMCA universal hammer.

There is no copyright issue, though.  The DMCA only bans circumvention
devices
that relate to copyrighted content.

If the vendor required it, how long do you think it would take their
lawyers to
figure out a way in which some sort of copyright was involved somewhere,
and it
could therefore be hit with the DMCA hammer?  Thus the universal
hammer
comment, you can define almost anything you want to be a copyright
violation if
it suits your purposes.  My guess on this one (and IANAL) is that
reading the
instruction codes sent from the host would be the user-definable
copyright
violation for third-party Smartchips.

Peter.

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RE: CFP: PKI research workshop

[Scott Guthery]

1) SST = supersonic transport (see Concorde, see Concorde on 
government life support, see Concorde in pretty orange and yellow.)
2) monorail = one rail, not elevated, or driver-less. The only 
running monorail I know of is in Seattle; it was left over 
after the 1962 Worlds Fair. All the airport people-movers I have
seen run on two rails or on a roadway. 
3) Videophone != Webcam (see Picturephone)

See also magnetic bubbles, cold fusion, Charles Atlas and Ginger.

PKI is a great marketing gimmick. No doubt about it.  Put that 
logo on your home page and all the hoi polloi feel warm and fuzzy. 
Flashing neon signs work better than drab old hand-lettered ones.

But how much risk does it reduce?  What is the insurance
premium with it and what is it without it?  How much
underwriting is premised on PKI?  Is there one instance where
an insurance premium has been reduced by more than the cost of 
the PKI implementation and the ongoing cost of its administration?

STP does a great business.  So does Mary Kay.  I don't knock 'em.  
But I do understand what kind of oil they are.

Cheers, Scott

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Peter Gutmann; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Re: CFP: PKI research workshop


Let us see.

Monorails are commonplace in airports these days.
Web cams for online chat are used by millions of teenagers
SST ? What is that

Phill

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Date: 27 December 2001 21:42
Subject: Re: CFP: PKI research workshop


As I never tire of saying, PKI is the ATM of security.

Naah, it's the monorail/videophone/SST of security.  Looks great at the
World
Fair, but a bit difficult to turn into a reality outside the fairgrounds.

Peter (who would like to say that observation was original, but it was
actually
   stolen from Scott Guthery).


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