Re: the anvil problem
On Thu, 30 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2002 0:02:05 EDT, Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first pass at this I had a lot of crosstalk in the office and mangled things, badly. One more time: Say 3/4ths of the world offices use Microsoft software of one variety or another and these systems all need regular reloading for proper operation. After reloading, you hook up with MS's computers in Redmond to (re)license things. Say a large aircraft full of fuel torches the place (Microsoft's campus in Redmond), some fanatical bunch of wackos nuke the place, or maybe, some demented engineering student lobs a home-made EMP device onto the lawn? What's the world gonna do when the master licensing borg croaks and nobody can (re)license their office equipment warez? Is this disaster recovery a Microsoft issue or a US Government national security issue? Certainly not a nsec issue. This is a personal problem for those who choose to buy products that have these design flaws. And no, I am not being cute - I am dead serious. Anyone who would put out their hard earned $$ for a product that is designed as XP is has the inevitable disaster coming to them. Think back to what copy protection did to Ashton-Tate, then vote with your wallet and refuse to buy into the XP disaster-in-waiting. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the anvil problem
On Thu, 30 May 2002 0:02:05 EDT, Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... snipt ... Funny during the days after 9/11 I was using donated computers to build a missing persons database in downtown manhattan. We were scraping together anything would could get our hands on. Microsoft's NY office donated several copies of Office XP. The problem was that during the crisis there was no method by which the copies could be registered. Therefore, after a small number of executions the software came to a dead halt. Given the time pressures we were forced to abandon the work that was done in Office XP. I grabbed an old copy of Office 97 and used that instead since it didn't have the limits. Say 3/4ths of the world office use Microsoft software of one variety or another and they all need regular reloading for proper operation. Say a large aircraft full of fuel torches the place, some fanatical bunch of wackos nuke the place, or maybe, some demented engineering student lobs a home-made EMP device onto the lawn? What's the world gonna do when the master licensing borg croaks and nobody can (re)license their office equipment warez? Is this disaster recovery a Microsoft issue or a US Government national security issue? - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the anvil problem
On Thu, 30 May 2002 0:02:05 EDT, Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first pass at this I had a lot of crosstalk in the office and mangled things, badly. One more time: Say 3/4ths of the world offices use Microsoft software of one variety or another and these systems all need regular reloading for proper operation. After reloading, you hook up with MS's computers in Redmond to (re)license things. Say a large aircraft full of fuel torches the place (Microsoft's campus in Redmond), some fanatical bunch of wackos nuke the place, or maybe, some demented engineering student lobs a home-made EMP device onto the lawn? What's the world gonna do when the master licensing borg croaks and nobody can (re)license their office equipment warez? Is this disaster recovery a Microsoft issue or a US Government national security issue? - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the anvil problem
At 05:04 PM 5/29/2002 -0400, Adam Fields wrote: Hughes, James P says: Change the billboard for elevator music (which will be protected). Will you be able to play back your digital dictations *if* they were recorded in an environment that included background music. IMHO, Silly does not mean they will not be successful. Look at DMCA. I'm curious - I've never seen any discussion of this, but it hit home quite forcefully when I was ejected from my battery park apartment on 9/11 and needed to temporarily install some software on a new computer - has anyone made the point that enforced technological copyright protections are detrimental to security because they eliminate the possibility of using that technology in an emergency? We call this the anvil problem. Your copy protections must not prevent you from moving all your soft assets over to another computer when your first computer had an anvil dropped on it (or when it fell under the roller of a steam roller). +--+ |Carl M. Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://world.std.com/~cme | |PGP: 08FF BA05 599B 49D2 23C6 6FFD 36BA D342 | +--Officer, officer, arrest that man. He's whistling a dirty song.-+ - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending unsubscribe cryptography to [EMAIL PROTECTED]