Re: the anvil problem

2002-06-08 Thread measl


On Thu, 30 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 30 May 2002 0:02:05 EDT, Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 The first pass at this I had a lot of crosstalk in the office and
 mangled things, badly.  One more time:
 
 Say 3/4ths of the world offices use Microsoft software of one variety or
 another and these systems all need regular reloading for proper
 operation.  After reloading, you hook up with MS's computers in Redmond
 to (re)license things.
 
 Say a large aircraft full of fuel torches the place (Microsoft's campus
 in Redmond), some fanatical bunch of wackos nuke the place, or maybe,
 some demented engineering student lobs a home-made EMP device onto the
 lawn?  
 
 What's the world gonna do when the master licensing borg croaks and
 nobody can (re)license their office equipment warez?
 
 Is this disaster recovery a Microsoft issue or a US Government national
 security issue?

Certainly not a nsec issue.  This is a personal problem for those who choose
to buy products that have these design flaws.  

And no, I am not being cute - I am dead serious.  Anyone who would put out
their hard earned $$ for a product that is designed as XP is has the
inevitable disaster coming to them.

Think back to what copy protection did to Ashton-Tate, then vote with your
wallet and refuse to buy into the XP disaster-in-waiting.

 -- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...




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Re: the anvil problem

2002-05-31 Thread tpurdy

On Thu, 30 May 2002 0:02:05 EDT, Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 ... snipt ... 
Funny during the days after 9/11 I was using donated computers to
build a missing persons database in downtown manhattan.  We were
scraping together anything would could get our hands on.  Microsoft's
NY office donated several copies of Office XP.  The problem was that
during the crisis there was no method by which the copies could be
registered.  Therefore, after a small number of executions the
software came to a dead halt.  Given the time pressures we were forced
to abandon the work that was done in Office XP.  I grabbed an old copy
of Office 97 and used that instead since it didn't have the limits.  

Say 3/4ths of the world office use Microsoft software of one variety or
another and they all need regular reloading for proper operation.

Say a large aircraft full of fuel torches the place, some fanatical
bunch of wackos nuke the place, or maybe, some demented engineering
student lobs a home-made EMP device onto the lawn?  

What's the world gonna do when the master licensing borg croaks and
nobody can (re)license their office equipment warez?

Is this disaster recovery a Microsoft issue or a US Government national
security issue?

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Re: the anvil problem

2002-05-31 Thread tpurdy

On Thu, 30 May 2002 0:02:05 EDT, Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

The first pass at this I had a lot of crosstalk in the office and
mangled things, badly.  One more time:

Say 3/4ths of the world offices use Microsoft software of one variety or
another and these systems all need regular reloading for proper
operation.  After reloading, you hook up with MS's computers in Redmond
to (re)license things.

Say a large aircraft full of fuel torches the place (Microsoft's campus
in Redmond), some fanatical bunch of wackos nuke the place, or maybe,
some demented engineering student lobs a home-made EMP device onto the
lawn?  

What's the world gonna do when the master licensing borg croaks and
nobody can (re)license their office equipment warez?

Is this disaster recovery a Microsoft issue or a US Government national
security issue?

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the anvil problem

2002-05-29 Thread Carl Ellison

At 05:04 PM 5/29/2002 -0400, Adam Fields wrote:

Hughes, James P says:
 Change the billboard for elevator music (which will be protected).
 Will you be able to play back your digital dictations *if* they
 were recorded in an environment that included background music.
 
 IMHO, Silly does not mean they will not be successful. Look at
 DMCA.
 

I'm curious - I've never seen any discussion of this, but it hit
home quite forcefully when I was ejected from my battery park
apartment on 9/11 and needed to temporarily install some software on
a new computer - has anyone made the point that enforced
technological copyright
protections are detrimental to security because they eliminate the
possibility of using that technology in an emergency?

We call this the anvil problem.  Your copy protections must not
prevent you from moving all your soft assets over to another computer
when your first computer had an anvil dropped on it (or when it fell
under the roller of a steam roller).




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