[css-d] offset problem with IE

2005-12-23 Thread Robert Voogdgeert
Hi all,


Could any of you tell me how te solve the mess that IE makes of offset
values. I have used top, left and bottom offsets with percentage values
with 'position:absolute', all browsers deal fine with this except IE.

div.button1{
position:absolute;
bottom:10%;
right:20%}

Kind regards,
Robert.
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[css-d] css positioning issue problem with xhtml vs 4.01

2005-12-23 Thread DOUGLAS WINTERS
Merry Christmas CSS list! 

I have a question about this page.  When I convert the site over to xhtml it 
pushes the baby graphic way way to the right. 
 Almost off the edge of the screen.  The page validates with tidy as an xhtml 
document.  There has to be a problem 
with the css someplace.  I got it working in Opera 8 and then it went bezerk in 
IE6, I  fixed IE6   then Opera went down the tubes.
Here is the page in 4.01 with the css IT WORKSbut to me it should also 
work in xhtml too. I omitted the links  in css for posting this only.
http://pstcc11.pstcc.edu/~w2200a24/photography/index.htmlhttp://pstcc11.pstcc.edu/~w2200a24/photography/index.html

links {position: auto; top: 100%; left: 15%;
padding-top: 20px;
 padding-left: 40px;
}
body {
 
 position: absolute;
 background-color: #00;
 font-family: Eurostile, sans-serif;

}
ken {background-position: top; left;
background: url(logobutton.jpg);
padding-top: 2%; padding-left: 2%;
}
baby {position: absolute; top: 1px; left: 95%;
background: url(baby.jpg);
  
background: url(text.gif); 
margin-left:30px;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
   padding-bottom: 20%;
   
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Re: [css-d] css positioning issue problem with xhtml vs 4.01

2005-12-23 Thread David Laakso
DOUGLAS WINTERS wrote:

Merry Christmas CSS list! 

When I convert the site over to xhtml it pushes the baby graphic way way to 
the right. 
 Almost off the edge of the screen.  The page validates with tidy as an xhtml 
 document.  There has to be a problem 
with the css someplace.  I got it working in Opera 8 and then it went bezerk 
in IE6, I  fixed IE6   then Opera went down the tubes.
Here is the page in 4.01 with the css IT WORKSbut to me it should also 
 work in xhtml too. I omitted the links  in css for posting this only.
http://pstcc11.pstcc.edu/~w2200a24/photography/index.htmlhttp://pstcc11.pstcc.edu/~w2200a24/photography/index.html
background: url(baby.jpg);
  
   

Check the spelling of the image in the (x)html file?  In the above 
selector you call baby.jpg. Your image is actually spelled: babyy.jpg; 
and you call(spell) it correctly in the 4.01 file.
~dL

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Re: [css-d] position: absolute; width: 100%, IE width not 100%

2005-12-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Paul Walker wrote:
 I have unordered list that is absolutely positioned within another unordered 
 list.  The display is defined to block and the width is set to 100%, but in 
 IE the width is not quite reaching 100%.  It works fine in Firefox and I have 
 not tested in other browsers.
 
 The example file can be seen here.
 http://www.paulwalker.tv/tabs.htm
 
 I welcome any other general comments regarding my markup and css.  


I cannot provide a solution within your design, but I'll try to explain 
why not, if its of interest.

See this example
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/apboxpercentagewidth.html

In IE, the red a.p. child is offset with reference to its ancestor, but 
its width is calculated with respect to its parent.
That's wrong according to CSS2.1. Compare in Fx to see.

That is what we've mentioned in
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html#cb
The a.p. element is offset with respect to its nearest layout positioned
ancestor, but the percentage dimension relates to the next layout
ancestor.

Transferred to your example, the #menu .selected ul is absolutely
positioned and offsets with respect to body, but its width is calculated
on the basis of #menu li, because this li is floated (give this li a
width of 200px to see).

Now IE tries to calculate the 100% width of the second level ul with 
respect to the width of this li. But li.selected has no given width, so 
IE determines the maximum width available from its origin to the edge of 
the viewport.

Apply position:relative to this li.selected to see: the a.p. second 
level ul will start from this origin and the width will perfectly fit 
the remaining space.

So, basically your design requires the li  to be floated, but this float 
triggers inevitably haslayout, therefore, its a.p. child will calculate 
its 100% width with respect to it.

Hope someone else has a solution.

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[css-d] Font-size keywords

2005-12-23 Thread Jonathan Carter
I've noticed some people on this board always encourage the use of the 
font-size keywords (small, smaller, ect.) when setting a font-size in 
your stylesheet. I've personally never used these, but am interested to 
know their pros and cons. Can someone please help me understand when and 
why you would or wouldn't use these over ems or any other unit. Thanks.

-
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Re: [css-d] Font-size keywords

2005-12-23 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Jonathan Carter wrote:
 interested to 
 know their pros and cons.


This is all covered in the wiki:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingFontSize

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[css-d] Vertical Align like table cells with CSS and float problem

2005-12-23 Thread Alec A. Lazarescu
I've tried and failed to align text, an image, and a button neatly
vertically using CSS.  I would rather not force a height on a container
around them as that's not very flexible if the font or image size
changes, text wraps, etc.  It needs to work in IE6/FireFox/Safari.
Seems like a trivial thing with tables.

span style=font-size: 9pt; float: leftSome text/spanspan
style=float:leftimg
src=http://ak.imgfarm.com/ex/my/meHdrBtnCls.gif;
border=0/spanspan style=float:left;input type=button
value=Button/spandiv style=clear:both/div
table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0trtdspan
style=font-size: 9ptSome text/span/tdtdimg
src=http://ak.imgfarm.com/ex/my/meHdrBtnCls.gif;
border=0/tdtdinput type=button
value=Button/td/tr/table

Also IE puts an extra line space after my clearing div before the table
and FireFox doesn't.  How do I stop the float consistently in both
browsers?

Thanks,

Alec
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Re: [css-d] Font-size keywords

2005-12-23 Thread David Laakso
Jonathan Carter wrote:

I've noticed some people on this board always encourage the use of the 
font-size keywords (small, smaller, ect.) when setting a font-size in 
your stylesheet. I've personally never used these, but am interested to 
know their pros and cons.Can someone please help me understand when and 
why you would or wouldn't use these over ems or any other unit. Thanks.
Jonathan Carter
  

Different strokes for different folks, I gueus?
There is a good article on the wiki regarding keywords 
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=UsingKeywords. And there are 
articles on other font-sizing methods on the wiki as well.
Best,
~dL
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Re: [css-d] Font-size keywords

2005-12-23 Thread Adam Kuehn
Jonathan Carter wrote:
I've noticed some people on this board always encourage the use of the
font-size keywords (small, smaller, ect.) when setting a font-size in
your stylesheet. I've personally never used these, but am interested to
know their pros and cons. Can someone please help me understand when and
why you would or wouldn't use these over ems or any other unit. Thanks.

There is no easy answer to this best-practice question, and it is 
addressed rather thoroughly in our Wiki.  You can head to the Wiki 
home page (listed in the footer of this and every list message) and 
scroll down to the Sizing Text sub-heading.  I think you'll find 
most of what you need to know on those pages.  Every method has its 
advocates and detractors.  The ems w/ percent base is probably the 
most prevalent method currently, but that doesn't make it best for 
you.  Read and decide for yourself.

Good luck,


-Adam Kuehn 

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[css-d] Span Container Background Issue

2005-12-23 Thread Alec A. Lazarescu

FireFox has the text background red but stops at the height of the text
rather than filling the whole span (made larger by the image).  How do I
make the whole span red w/o hardcoding any widths because the image size
can obviously change.

span style=background-color: redSome textimg
src=http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/travel/ExpediaSponsor.gif?24057304;
border=0/span

Thanks,

Alec
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Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-23 Thread Jonathan Berry
To all, I removed a rule around a #wrapper (only put on that
contact.htmlpage for a test) {position: relative}; and the crash
stopped. But I still
having a problem with the bug. Will report back with more. Please check
again if you can.

On 12/22/05, bill scheider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Jonathan,

 What I get here when I reload the page in IE6 is a crash. Once the initial
 load crashed the browser. The second time, the page loaded ok (probably
 from
 the cache) but when re-loaded the browser hung up after loading the
 header.

 In Firefox, I get a flicker when the page loads. In the past when I've had
 this problem, it was due to not having image heights and widths specified.
 Once I fixed that, no more flicker.

 HTH,
 Bill

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:21 PM
 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

 I am reposting this only because I don't know what the protocol is for
 placing Site Check in your subject line is, i.e. I didn't know if that
 was
 to get comments or to show a problem. Anyway, we are on deadline and
 wanted
 to get help with this possible bug:
 http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/contact.html
 We are having a problem with one of our sites wherein the left nav shifts
 either on load or refresh (i.e. if you cannot get it immediately then
 refresh and you will see the probelm). This is only in IE and looks like
 it
 might be an instance of the Peekaboo bug. But we already have code in
 place
 to handle that. Can you check it for us? Thanks in advance.
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[css-d] Weird margin beside images in IE, not in FF

2005-12-23 Thread Jani Timonen
I tried to get help in this problem at WordPress Support and they adviced
me to ask help here. So, here is the problem.

When I started to learn CSS, I debugged the code in IE. Now I'm debugging
both in FF first and IE second and having problems at the beginning. In
IE, there seems to be some empty space in left and right side of
navigation rollover images. Code works fine with Firefox.

My homepages http://www.jptsign.com/

Style sheet http://www.jptsign.com/tyyli.css


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Re: [css-d] Problems with nested uls used for tabbed navigation in IE 6.0

2005-12-23 Thread Allison Bloodworth
Thanks very much for your help, Steve. The DOCTYPE did fix almost
everything. However, now in IE 6.0 for some reason my second and third level
navigation is only slightly more than half the page (maybe about 60% of the
page?) when it is supposed to stretch across the whole page:
http://mms.media.berkeley.edu:8901/UCBCNUsabilityMockups/Gateway/New/sports-
ucb-nested.htm. I've tried putting width: 100% on several of the items to no
avail. Since these are nested lists, is it possible that the percentage
values are being compounded somehow? If that's the case, however, I wouldn't
understand why the third list (menu) is the same size as the second list
(which it is nested within). I've put colored borders around some of the
elements in question in order to see how big they really are.

And unfortunately in IE5.0  5.5 the navigation is all vertical instead of
horizontal...

Finally, it is also a huge mess on IE5/Mac, maybe because I've used em's to
absolutely position the top of the subnavs (for better text resizing
results)? I wouldn't think it would be that off from that, though, and they
are way too far off to the left despite the use of left: 0px. Do we really
have to design for this browser anymore now that it's unsupported as of Dec.
31?

I was really excited about this design (because it's more accessible) and
was really hoping I could get it to work in these browsers. In case it's
helpful, here is the same design (which works at least to some extent in all
browsers mentioned except IE5/Mac - though it's troubles there are much less
than with this layout):
http://mms.media.berkeley.edu:8901/UCBCNUsabilityMockups/Gateway/New/sports-
tabs-1.html. 

Thanks again for any help anyone can give me, and happy holidays!
Allison


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Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 6:18 PM
To: Allison Bloodworth
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Problems with nested uls used for tabbed navigation
in IE 6.0

On 12/22/2005 5:39 PM Allison Bloodworth wrote:

 I recently adapted Adam Kalsey's CSS tabs with nested submenus made up of
 uls (http://www.kalsey.com/tools/csstabs/) to create three levels of
 navigation for a calendar. For some reason, my page

(http://mms.media.berkeley.edu:8901/UCBCNUsabilityMockups/Gateway/New/sports
 -ucb-nested.htm) looks great in Firefox 1.5 but horrible in IE 6.0 and I
 can't figure out why. The page is no longer centered and the second and
 third level navigation is rendering vertically instead of horizontally.
I've
 used uls to create this navigation and I've made sure all the uls and
 lis in the submenus are marked display:inline. Anyone have any
 suggestions for me?

Your DOCTYPE puts IE into quirks mode.  Try this (with the URI):

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;

It seemed to take care of most of the issues you mentioned, though I'll 
admit I didn't look at everything.

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[css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread Francesco
Hello there,

I just posted a new wintery design to my site.

http://blackcoil.com

Browsercam shows it looking good in every browser
except for Netscape 4.x (I don't care) and Opera on
any platform, which I DO care about.  It shows the UL
on the home page with round bullets even though I
styled ULs to not have bullets.

http://www.browsercam.com/projects/216074/4480723.jpg

I'm wondering if the Browsercam computers are reading
a cached copy of the stylesheet from before I made the
fix?  Could someone with Opera check it out for me? 
Much appreciated!

Francesco

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Re: [css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Brown
Hi Francesco

On 23 Dec 2005, at 18:33, Francesco wrote:

 Could someone with Opera check it out for me?
 Much appreciated!

I am sorry to say that you are right. Opera on a Mac is showing the 
bullets. I have sent you a screen shot in a different email.

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Re: [css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread Steve Clason
On 12/23/2005 12:24 PM Richard Brown wrote:
 Hi Francesco
 
 On 23 Dec 2005, at 18:33, Francesco wrote:
 
 Could someone with Opera check it out for me?
 Much appreciated!
 
 I am sorry to say that you are right. Opera on a Mac is showing the 
 bullets. I have sent you a screen shot in a different email.

Opera 8/WinXP is showing them as well.


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Re: [css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread David Laakso
Francesco wrote:

http://blackcoil.com
It shows the UL
on the home page with round bullets even though I
styled ULs to not have bullets.
http://www.browsercam.com/projects/216074/4480723.jpg
Francesco
  

Opera9preview1
I see a lot of fuchsia but no bullets :-) :
http://www.dlaakso.com/coil.jpg
Best,
~davidLaakso
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Re: [css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread Gerhard Hoogterp
On Friday 23 December 2005 20:32, Steve Clason wrote:
 On 12/23/2005 12:24 PM Richard Brown wrote:
  Hi Francesco
 
  On 23 Dec 2005, at 18:33, Francesco wrote:
  Could someone with Opera check it out for me?
  Much appreciated!
 
  I am sorry to say that you are right. Opera on a Mac is showing the
  bullets. I have sent you a screen shot in a different email.

 Opera 8/WinXP is showing them as well.

As does Opera 8.51 under linux. (Konqeror 3.5 doesn't btw.)

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Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-23 Thread Jonathan Berry
Ingo, Ian, Ron, Bill, can any of you check the page again. I have plastered
position:relative over everything and no go. Any help much to be
appreciated.

On 12/23/05, Jonathan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To all, I removed a rule around a #wrapper (only put on that contact.htmlpage 
 for a test) {position: relative}; and the crash stopped. But I still
 having a problem with the bug. Will report back with more. Please check
 again if you can.

 On 12/22/05, bill scheider [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  Hi Jonathan,
 
  What I get here when I reload the page in IE6 is a crash. Once the
  initial
  load crashed the browser. The second time, the page loaded ok (probably
  from
  the cache) but when re-loaded the browser hung up after loading the
  header.
 
  In Firefox, I get a flicker when the page loads. In the past when I've
  had
  this problem, it was due to not having image heights and widths
  specified.
  Once I fixed that, no more flicker.
 
  HTH,
  Bill
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Berry
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:21 PM
  To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
  Subject: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?
 
  I am reposting this only because I don't know what the protocol is for
  placing Site Check in your subject line is, i.e. I didn't know if that
  was
  to get comments or to show a problem. Anyway, we are on deadline and
  wanted
  to get help with this possible bug:
  http://www.haroldstevens.com/redesign/contact.html
  We are having a problem with one of our sites wherein the left nav
  shifts
  either on load or refresh (i.e. if you cannot get it immediately then
  refresh and you will see the probelm). This is only in IE and looks like
  it
  might be an instance of the Peekaboo bug. But we already have code in
  place
  to handle that. Can you check it for us? Thanks in advance.
  --
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  IT Consultant
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [css-d] Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Jonathan Berry wrote:
 Ingo, Ian, Ron, Bill, can any of you check the page again. I have plastered
 position:relative over everything and no go. Any help much to be
 appreciated.

Actually I am on duty debugging your page. It's not reproducible on 
a local copy at my end, so having a simplified page online would be 
of help.

I noticed that the left menu
ul#leftnav li {width: 110px ...}
overflows its parent
div.navbar {width: 97px ...}

so that the cascade of overflow:hidden in the ancestors
div.navbar, div.Nav-Box, div.Page-Box
should be deleted for debugging via
*{overflow:visible !important;}
and
ul#leftnav
should be more stable with
zoom:1; applied.

let me know if it makes a difference.

Ingo

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Re: [css-d] Myspace

2005-12-23 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
It took some hacking before I was able to get mySpace to behave -- and I
still am not happy with how my page (dwacon) turned out but got tired of
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Re: [css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread Ingo Chao
Francesco wrote:
...
 http://blackcoil.com
 
 Browsercam ... shows the UL
 on the home page with round bullets even though I
 styled ULs to not have bullets.
.

For Opera8, replace
#mainMenu {
...
   list-style: none inside none;
}

with

#mainMenu { ...
list-style-type: none;
list-style-image: none;
list-style-position: inside;
}

Opera9TP1 has no problem with this shorthand, as David noted.

My default background is blue, not fuchsia.

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Re: [css-d] css positioning issue problem with xhtml vs 4.01

2005-12-23 Thread David Laakso
DOUGLAS WINTERS wrote:


I have a question about this page.  When I convert the site over to xhtml it 
pushes the baby graphic way way to the right. 
 Almost off the edge of the screen.  The page validates with tidy as an xhtml 
 document.  There has to be a problem 
with the css someplace.  I got it working in Opera 8 and then it went bezerk 
in IE6, I  fixed IE6   then Opera went down the tubes.
Here is the page in 4.01 with the css IT WORKSbut to me it should also 
 work in xhtml too. I omitted the links  in css for posting this only.
http://pstcc11.pstcc.edu/~w2200a24/photography/index.htmlhttp://pstcc11.pstcc.edu/~w2200a24/photography/index.html
  

These may not solve the problem, but they are contributing to it:
.ken {background-position: top; left; background: url(logobutton.jpg);}
might read:
.ken {background: url(logobutton.jpg) top left;}
you can only have one background-image on a selector (you have two).
.baby {background: url(babyy.jpg);background: url(text.gif); }
Best,
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Re: [css-d] site check, Opera, any platform

2005-12-23 Thread David Hucklesby
Hi Francesco,
Re: http://blackcoil.com and the unwanted list bullets:

You have this in your style sheet:

#mainMenu {
  margin: 120px 0 0 0;
  list-style: none inside none;
}

Try changing the list-style to list-style: none;

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[css-d] one more Opera question...

2005-12-23 Thread Francesco
Thanks for everyone's input on the bullet issue - I
have fixed it.

Could someone tell me why Opera 8.5 on Mac displays
this page as I intended:

http://www.browsercam.com/projects/216102/4481986.jpg

but Opera 7.5, Mozilla, and IE 5 on the same Mac does
not?

http://www.browsercam.com/projects/216102/4481985.jpg

The page is here:

http://blackcoil.com/Services.aspx

and the CSS is here:

http://blackcoil.com/styles/snowflake01.css

Any tips are apreciated!

Francesco

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[css-d] Site check please

2005-12-23 Thread Angus at InfoForce Services
I have tested my web site in Firefox 1.5 and IE6 running on Windows XP Home. 
Can I please get a browser check for all other Windows, Linux and Mac 
browsers. Thank you. I normally design web sites for 800 by 600 resolution.

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[css-d] Site check please (take 2)

2005-12-23 Thread Angus at InfoForce Services
I have tested my web site in Firefox 1.5 and IE6 running on Windows XP Home.
Can I please get a browser check for all other Windows, Linux and Mac
browsers. Thank you. I normally design web sites for 800 by 600 resolution.

HTML: http://www.infoforce-services.com

CSS: http://www.infoforce-services.com/css/ifsmain.css

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[css-d] Fwd: Peekaboo bug?

2005-12-23 Thread Jonathan Berry
No, I had to work on it with the import statements. I was tasked to do that.
I am sorry, but this will eventually have to be fixed with the import
statements because all of these sites use them. There is one other that is
having the same problem and they do want to change the HTML. Have you found
a solution?

On 12/23/05, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jonathan Berry wrote:
  Ingo et al., I had a prior solution that worked, but did not want to use
 it
  as the Infosites team wanted their styles to be imported. The solution
 was
  to put explicit style tags rather than the import statements. Why would
 this
  work is my question? What are the benefits/detriments of using import
 over
  style attributes? Thanks in advance.


 You had a prior version that worked and let me search for a bug you
 already had a solution for? Are you kidding?

 Ingo

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[css-d] text disappearing/reappearing during scroll

2005-12-23 Thread Brian Funk
Hi all,
The text (some...not all) on my page seems to be disappearing during a slow
scroll up and down the page. This only happens in IE that I can tell. I only
have Winxp IE/FF/Opera to test in.

css is at: http://www.hallshaven.ca/hhstyle.css
html is at: http://www.hallshaven.ca/rooms.html

Would anyone mind looking and see if this happens in any other browsers or
platforms? If anyone reproduces it are there any ideas why this would be 
happening? 

As this is my first real project I would welcome any observations of any kind
from experienced eyes.

Thanks and Merry Christmas!

Brian Funk
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[css-d] Vertically Distributed List Items

2005-12-23 Thread Ian Brandt

Hi,

I've been googling and experimenting all day, but have come up empty
handed.  Is there any way in CSS to distribute list items evenly over
the height of a vertically fluid list, taking into account that the
number if list items may be unknown at style sheet authoring time?
Test code below.  I'd rather not have to resort to tables, as
semantically my content is a list.

Thanks,

Ian


?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
  http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
  head
titleList Item Vertical Distribution Test/title
style type=text/css

  html, body {
height: 100%;
  }

  #testList {
height: 75%;
width: 75%;
background-color: silver;
  }

  #testList li {
background-color: yellow;
  }

/style
  /head
  body
ul id=testList
  liHow could I distribute these list items/li
  lievenly over the height of this list?/li
  li(taking into account that the number of /li
  lilist items may be unknown at authoring time)?/li
/ul
  /body
/html
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[css-d] Block-level LABEL/INPUT

2005-12-23 Thread christianz
http://www.vikingroofing.com/temp/request.shtml

On this form is there a way I can get each instance of LABEL and its 
associated INPUT tag to act as a block-level element together so that I 
don't have to put double BR tags after each . . . or resort to using 
tables . . . or wrapping each pair in a DIV tag?
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Re: [css-d] one more Opera question...

2005-12-23 Thread Roger Roelofs
Francesco,

On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Francesco wrote:

 Could someone tell me why Opera 8.5 on Mac displays
 this page as I intended, but Opera 7.5, Mozilla, and IE 5 on the same 
 Mac does
 not?
 The page is here:
 http://blackcoil.com/Services.aspx

It is not browser dependent.  Take any of the browsers mentioned and 
make the window narrower than 770px.  It is a standard 'float drop' and 
can be fixed for good browsers by adding 'min-width: 770px;' to the 
body selector.  If you don't need a fluid layout you can change that to 
'width: 770px;' instead.

hth
Roger,

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Re: [css-d] blank page on windows 2000

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Akers
Off Topic: I received an unsolicited email (spam) from Rashantha De
Silva today with the subject Tsunami Memorial at Santa Monica Pier.
While the event may be decent and respectful, sending someone spam is
neither. Especially if that someone tried to help you. Please remove
me from your list and refrain from sending me spam in the future.
Thanks.
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