Re: [css-d] IE7 list jumps on hover

2006-10-03 Thread Ian Young
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 Subject: Re: [css-d] IE7 list jumps on hover
 
 

It seems to be a position relative problem.

This seems to do the trick

#menu #linklist_nav li {
display: inline;
/*position: relative;*/
top: -4px;
}

Regards

Ian
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Re: [css-d] Rigt align text fields

2006-10-03 Thread Bradley Wright
On 03/10/2006 00:15, Deckard wrote:
 
 But as you can see, the lines are one line below the text :(
 The mind bogles :(
 
 http://www.wordlife.eu/wizard.php

Floating elements makes them sit adjacent to the object below them in 
the markup, so a simple fix would be to place the inputs above their 
labels in the markup.

A better fix would be to add a negative margin-top to the inputs:
.oneField input {
margin-top: -1.4em;
}

And make sure you force the containing spans to float contain the 
elements (although you should be using block level elements, since 
inline elements are invalid in XHTML Strict):

http://www.ejeliot.com/blog/59
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[css-d] @import or link href=css/buttons.css /

2006-10-03 Thread ross
Is an @import in between the style tags considered a better technique link 
href=myfile.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /


You thoughts please.


R.
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Re: [css-d] @import or link href=css/buttons.css /

2006-10-03 Thread Dave Goodchild
When you use @import you hide the css from browsers that do not support it
well (hello N4). When you use link, all browser will access the css.

I my daily work I no longer cater for N4 unless the majority audience uses
it. It seems that IE5/5.5. is becoming the new N4. One way link rel comes in
useful is to prevent the IE 'flash of unstyled content' bug, but in nearly
all cases I use @import.
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Re: [css-d] @import or link href=css/buttons.css /

2006-10-03 Thread Christian Heilmann
 When you use @import you hide the css from browsers that do not support it
 well (hello N4). When you use link, all browser will access the css.

 I my daily work I no longer cater for N4 unless the majority audience uses
 it. It seems that IE5/5.5. is becoming the new N4. One way link rel comes in
 useful is to prevent the IE 'flash of unstyled content' bug, but in nearly
 all cases I use @import.

As you can prevent FOUC with a script tag, that is not really that
much of an issue.
I like @import, as it allows for modularization of CSS much more than LINKs do.

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Re: [css-d] @import or link href=css/buttons.css /

2006-10-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
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 Is an @import in between the style tags considered a better 
 technique link href=myfile.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

The question is: better for what?

All valid techniques are 'better' if they get the job done, and the only
difference is that especially older browsers, but also some new ones,
may not understand some of the newer techniques/properties, or they may
handle them wrong.

Myself, I always use 'link' in page-head and '@import' in stylesheets.
Then I organize my stylesheets so they are '@media' dependent. This is
efficient and 'gets the job done', while it also shuts out a number of
older browsers from my styles. I can then reveal or hide styles for
older browsers if I have to, without leaving the stylesheets.

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[css-d] can someone tell me why I am getting theses warnings?

2006-10-03 Thread ross
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blue-fly.co.uk%2Fjunction%2Fcounselling.php


 I have a background colour in my body





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Re: [css-d] can someone tell me why I am getting theses warnings?

2006-10-03 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blue-fly.co.uk%2Fjunction%2Fcounselling.php
  I have a background colour in my body

Yes, you do. But read carefully: validator wants COLOR, not
background-color for body:

 Line : 4 (Level : 1) You have no color with your background-color : body

Validator likes to have color and background-color in pairs.


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Re: [css-d] can someone tell me why I am getting theses warnings?

2006-10-03 Thread Arno @ Raketnet
CSS validator wants you to define a (text-) color every time you define a 
background color.
It's supposed to be for contrast reasons, if I understood correctly.

Arno




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[css-d] ISO: MovableType or WordPress Guru?

2006-10-03 Thread swap
Hello...

IN SEARCH OF a developer or programmer FOR HIRE
who is fully knowledgeable in deployment of
MovableType or Wordpress installations.

My apologies, if this is not an appropriate post to
this list.

A discussion of work, rates, etc., would not be
appropriate to the list, so I respectfully request
you contact me via private email, address above.

Thanks

Fred


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[css-d] float clearing problem

2006-10-03 Thread Matt Tibbits
Hello all, 

 

I have a page with a left floated menu and a main content area. In the
content area I have a series of images that are left floated. Since the text
around the images is in some cases very short, I clear the end of the
paragraph so that the next paragraph is lined up with the next image. 

 

If my explanation doesn’t make any sense you can see the page here:
HYPERLINK
http://www.easterseals.nb.ca/prog_previewcntr.phphttp://www.easterseals.nb
.ca/prog_previewcntr.php

 

This appears to be fine in IE6, however when I view in FF1.5 the first clear
in the content, clears down past the left menu, leaving a gap. I thought
that a “clear” would only clear within the containing element (div in this
case). Is there an easy way to fix this without resorting to extra p tags,
margins, etc. in my content?  Which browser is displaying the proper
behaviour in this case (I’m guessing FF)?

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Matt

 

 

 


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Re: [css-d] float clearing problem

2006-10-03 Thread ~davidLaakso
Matt Tibbits wrote:
 If my explanation doesn’t make any sense you can see the page here:
 HYPERLINK
 http://www.easterseals.nb.ca/prog_previewcntr.php 

 This appears to be fine in IE6, however when I view in FF1.5 the first clear
 in the content, clears down past the left menu, leaving a gap.
 Matt
You could try this:
#container {
/*width : 772px;*/
width: 774px; change to account for the border in ie
}
#content {
float: left;  add
width: 620px; add
margin : 25px /*20px*/0 10px /*170px*/0;  delete the horizontal 
margin from width bearing container and re-assign to the p and img.
}

Flush left/scatter right will eliminate the rivers in the text.
HTH.
~dL
PS If it works, someone else will have to explain the theory stuff :-) .

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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread Rodney Toliver
In my attempts to attach two style sheets- one for Internet Explorer and one
for other browsers- I have encountered a problem. On an earlier project, I
was able to link one style sheet to handle the presentation on IE by linking
it within a conditional comment, which only IE would recognize, and linking
a style sheet the conventional way for the look on all other browsers. Yet,
for this new TEMPLATE I have been unsuccessful, as the style sheet linked
within the conditional comment gets ignored completely. EVERY TIME. This
doesn't change no matter what order I put them in. I can't understand the
inconsistency of this method. Shouldn't it work since it has before? Does
the fact that it is a Dreamweaver template have anything to do with it?
Please help.

Page: http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/about.html 
CSS(IE): http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/style/iestyle.css 
CSS(Other): http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/style/glstyle.css 


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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread Bradley Wright
On 03/10/2006 16:27, Rodney Toliver wrote:
 Yet, for this new TEMPLATE I have been unsuccessful, as the style
 sheet linked within the conditional comment gets ignored completely.

Your version of IE might not be exactly matching 6--try something like:
!--[if GT IE 5]
and see if that helps.

Also, to quote PPK:
 Note however, that if you use multiple Explorers on one computer, the
 conditional comments will render as if all these Explorer versions
 are the highest Explorer version available on your machine (usually
 Explorer 6.0).

Just in case.
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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread ~davidLaakso
Rodney Toliver wrote:
 In my attempts to attach two style sheets- one for Internet Explorer and one
 for other browsers- I have encountered a problem.

 Page: http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/about.html 
 CSS(IE): http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/style/iestyle.css 
 CSS(Other): http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/style/glstyle.css 
Try this (assuming path)
!--[if lt IE 7]
link href=../style/iestyle.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
![endif]--
Might want to use a meaningful title for your document, and validate it. 
:-)
HTH
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[css-d] Using divs transparent corners for rounded images... but

2006-10-03 Thread Tim Ware
I am having a problem with this page:

http://help.hyperarts2.com/papilia/

Near the bottom is a brown empty image.

The basic idea of what I'm trying to do is have a div (.roundimg)  
that contains an image tag (both the div  image with no dimensions  
specified), and 4 divs that are absolutely positioned in each corner  
(.roundimg is positioned relative). The 4 corner divs have a  
background image that is a rounded corner with transparency so that  
the image in .roundimg displays with rounded corners. For some  
reason, the .roundimg is getting pushed out on the right about 10px,  
messing up the concept.

.roundimg {
border:0; margin:0; padding:0;
position:relative;
float:right;
}


Then the html:

div class=roundimgdiv class=top-l/divdiv class=top-r/ 
divdiv class=bot-l/divdiv class=bot-r/divimg src=_img/ 
64x64.gif/div

The top-l, top-r, etc. divs are positon-absolute at the four corners  
and they contain an aliased rounded corner to create the rounded  
corner effect on the image. Styled:

.top-l, .top-r, .bot-l, .bot-r {
position:absolute;
width:12px; height:12px;
}

.top-l {
background:transparent 
url(/papilia/_img/top-l.gif) no-repeat;
top:0; left:0;
}

.top-r {
background:transparent 
url(/papilia/_img/top-r.gif) no-repeat;
top:0; right:0;
}

.bot-l {
background:transparent 
url(/papilia/_img/bot-l.gif) no-repeat;
bottom:0; left:0;
}

.bot-r {
background:transparent 
url(/papilia/_img/bot-r.gif) no-repeat;
bottom:0; right:0;
}


For some reason, if I don't specifiy a width for the .roundimg div,  
you see the result, with the div being expanded about 10px wider than  
the image that's in it. Here's a link to the css:

http://help.hyperarts2.com/papilia/_inc/papilia.css

I'm so close to getting this sorted out. Thanks so much for any  
assistance!

Tim



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Re: [css-d] Using divs transparent corners for rounded images... but

2006-10-03 Thread Ian Young
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Ware
 Sent: 03 October 2006 16:55
 To: CSS Discuss
 Subject: [css-d] Using divs  transparent corners for rounded
 images... but


 I am having a problem with this page:

 http://help.hyperarts2.com/papilia/

 Near the bottom is a brown empty image.

 The basic idea of what I'm trying to do is have a div (.roundimg)
 that contains an image tag (both the div  image with no dimensions
 specified), and 4 divs that are absolutely positioned in each corner
 (.roundimg is positioned relative). The 4 corner divs have a
 background image that is a rounded corner with transparency so that
 the image in .roundimg displays with rounded corners. For some
 reason, the .roundimg is getting pushed out on the right about 10px,
 messing up the concept.


Tim

Not sure what's going here, but you should check out the validator at:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.hyperarts2.com%2Fpapilia
%2F

where apart from there being several markup errors, you have some oddly
named classes, that don't appear in the source code and we certainly
wouldn't wish to quote in the forum!!

Ian
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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread Dejan Kozina
Rodney, you're looking for the IE stylesheet one folder above its true 
position. Try this:

 @import url(style/iestyle.css);

djn


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 Page: http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/about.html 
 CSS(IE): http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/style/iestyle.css 
 CSS(Other): http://www.accd.edu/spc/distance/test/style/glstyle.css 
 

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Re: [css-d] Using divs transparent corners for rounded images... but

2006-10-03 Thread Tim Ware
ohmygod. That was a test during high frustration. It relates to  
nothing and I'll remove it! And then I'll use the validator. Thanks  
for that. The offending class is now history! And I closed all the  
image tags and now the page validates. But there's still The Problem.  
Thanks!

Tim



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On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Ian Young wrote:

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Ware
 Sent: 03 October 2006 16:55
 To: CSS Discuss
 Subject: [css-d] Using divs  transparent corners for rounded
 images... but


 I am having a problem with this page:

 http://help.hyperarts2.com/papilia/

 Near the bottom is a brown empty image.

 The basic idea of what I'm trying to do is have a div (.roundimg)
 that contains an image tag (both the div  image with no dimensions
 specified), and 4 divs that are absolutely positioned in each corner
 (.roundimg is positioned relative). The 4 corner divs have a
 background image that is a rounded corner with transparency so that
 the image in .roundimg displays with rounded corners. For some
 reason, the .roundimg is getting pushed out on the right about 10px,
 messing up the concept.


 Tim

 Not sure what's going here, but you should check out the validator at:

 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.hyperarts2.com% 
 2Fpapilia
 %2F

 where apart from there being several markup errors, you have some  
 oddly
 named classes, that don't appear in the source code and we certainly
 wouldn't wish to quote in the forum!!

 Ian
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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread Rodney Toliver
Thanks Mr. Wright for your prompt response.

Still nothing. I edited the statement as you suggested though. The page
responds to the style sheet that I attached in the conventional form of
attaching style sheets in both IE and Firefox. However, this one that I
wanted to be recognized by IE so that it would render the page differently
is still ignored. I had been using the conditional comment since it was the
only method that really worked for me in the past when attaching two
different style sheets.

Would there be a better way to do this?

It seems that when I try to link two style sheets, IE will ignore the one I
have designed for it and choose the other entirely or certain styles from
that sheet. It doesn't even matter if I place the other one last. If I place
the one that I have designed for IE last, it affects the other browsers. If
I put it first within a conditional comment, IE ignores it. If I put it
last, thinking that will make it the priority style sheet, it still ignores
it. How do any of you attach two style sheets to bring browsers into
harmony?

-Original Message-
From: Bradley Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:50 AM
To: Rodney Toliver
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

On 03/10/2006 16:27, Rodney Toliver wrote:
 Yet, for this new TEMPLATE I have been unsuccessful, as the style
 sheet linked within the conditional comment gets ignored completely.

Your version of IE might not be exactly matching 6--try something like:
!--[if GT IE 5]
and see if that helps.

Also, to quote PPK:
 Note however, that if you use multiple Explorers on one computer, the
 conditional comments will render as if all these Explorer versions
 are the highest Explorer version available on your machine (usually
 Explorer 6.0).

Just in case.


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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread Rodney Toliver
WOW...

That simple? You found it. That was like calling the TV repair man and him
finding the TV unplugged. Thanks a million.

I'd still be interested in knowing how you and others link multiple style
sheets to a page.

-Original Message-
From: Dejan Kozina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:20 AM
To: Rodney Toliver
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

Rodney, you're looking for the IE stylesheet one folder above its true 
position. Try this:

 @import url(style/iestyle.css);

djn


Rodney Toliver wrote:
 
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[css-d] Div that fills in the empty space on a page

2006-10-03 Thread Peter Beckman
I have content that spans about 400px from the top of the page to the end
of the content.

I want to have a nice footer exactly below the content all the way to the
bottom of the page, but without enabling the scroll bars.

Right now I have it working with height:1000px; but it causes the page to
scroll.

Is there a way in CSS to have the div run all the way to the bottom of the
visible space?  I tried height:100%; too and that didn't do any good
either.  It's just a background color with a 1px border at the top.

body
   div id='header'/div
   div id='content' ... /div
   div id='footer'/div
/body

#footer {
 background-color:#058;
 height:1000px;
 border-top:1px solid black;
 margin-top:5px;
}

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Re: [css-d] works in IE6, not in IE7

2006-10-03 Thread Vlad Perlov
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Re: [css-d] float clearing problem

2006-10-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
~davidLaakso wrote:
 http://www.easterseals.nb.ca/prog_previewcntr.php

 This appears to be fine in IE6, however when I view in FF1.5 the 
 first clear in the content, clears down past the left menu, leaving
  a gap.

 PS If it works, someone else will have to explain the theory stuff 
 :-) .

Yes, it works, but you didn't quite finish it  ;-)

I'll start by refining David's float-solution a bit, so it becomes this...

#content {float: right; width: 580px; margin: 15px 20px 0 -50px;
display: inline;}

...and then I'll explain...

1: a clearing-element will clear everything within the same 'block
formatting context'[1], so FF1.5 and Opera and other standard-compliant
browsers do the right thing since the #content and the #leftcol is
inside the same 'block formatting context' - #container.

IE-win doesn't know much about standards, and it has its own block
formatting called 'Layout'[2], which saves cases like this even when
they shouldn't - causing the illusion that IE-win actually works better.
The fact is that IE-win doesn't work at all when its behavior is
compared with CSS-standards.

2: by turning #content into a float, a new 'block formatting context'[1]
is established, so clearing-elements inside #content won't react on
anything outside #content. That's what the standards say, and even
IE-win handles a float correct in this respect albeit it's IE's own
'Layout' bug that creates the effect.

3: I floated #content to the right so it shouldn't rely on the exact
width of #leftcol. The right edge of #container is a more reliable
reference-point.

4: some corrective measures for IE-win are still needed.
a: a negative margin-left: 'margin: 15px 20px 0 -50px;' will add a bit
more playroom on the left side if/when IE-win expands #leftcol when
subjected to font-resizing. Especially important if someone (like me)
tell IE-win to 'ignore font sizes'.
b: 'display: inline;' will cure old IE-win's 'margin-doubling on floats
bug' and make it line up #content correctly.

regards
Georg

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Re: [css-d] p tag inside table

2006-10-03 Thread Dave Goodchild
table.table-events td p

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 How do I change the padding on a p tag inside of a table? My table is
 class .table-events. I have tried
 .table-events p and .table-events td p, but those don't work.
 Thank you,
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[css-d] IE6 and negative top margin

2006-10-03 Thread Mike Strong
I'm working on a tutorial that Eric Meyer did for lynda.com titled CSS Site
Design. IE6 doesn't seem to like the negative top margin for #today. Most
of the navbar disappears, though it works fine in Firefox. What's happening
and what do I need to change to make it work in IE6? Below, I have patched
together a document that isolates the problem area.

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
title About Tea: History /title
style type=text/css
/* - generic styles */

body {
margin: 0; 
padding: 0;
background: #E3EDC2; 
color: #333;
font: small Lucida Grande, Arial, sans-serif;
}

a {
text-decoration: none;
}

a img {
border: 0;
}

p {
margin: 0 0 1em;
}

/* - masthead styles */

#masthead {
margin-bottom: 1.75em; 
padding-top: 1px;
background: #ABD240;
}

#homelink {
display: block;
margin: 1em 2em 1em; 
padding: 2em 0 0.5em 1em;
background: url(../images/curl.gif) 100% 100% no-repeat;
}
#navlinks {
margin: 0; 
padding: 0.5em 3em;
background: #686397; 
color: #FFF;
}

#navlinks li {
display: inline;
margin-right: 0.5em; 
padding-right: 0.75em;
border-right: 1px solid #99C;
font-weight: bold;
}

#navlinks li.last {
border-right: 0;
}

#navlinks a {
color: #D4EC84;
}

#today {
margin-top: -1.66em; 
padding: 0 2em 0 0;
color: #FFF;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: right;
line-height: 1;
}
/style
/head
body
div id=masthead
a href=# id=homelinkimg src=images/javacotea.gif
alt=JavaCo Teaa home //a
ol id=navlinks
li class=firsta href=aboutus-ourgoal.htmlabout
us/a/li

liabout tea/li
lia href=#brewing/a/li
lia href=#drinking/a/li
lia href=#products/a/li
li class=lasta href=#contact us/a/li
/ol

p id=today
July 16, 2006
/p
/div
/body
/html

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Re: [css-d] p tag inside table

2006-10-03 Thread Eliana Berlfein
Do you use padding to make the space between paragraphs smaller? I  
tried your code and the space didn't change.
I put
table.table-events td p {
  padding: 0;
}

Thanks,
Eliana

On Oct 3, 2006, at 1:34 PM, Dave Goodchild wrote:

 table.table-events td p

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Re: [css-d] p tag inside table

2006-10-03 Thread Dave Goodchild
Space between paragraphs? Use margin in that case. Padding controls space
inside the element.


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Re: [css-d] Problem- Style Sheet for IE in a Conditional Comment

2006-10-03 Thread Ian Young
 Thanks Mr. Wright for your prompt response.

 Still nothing. I edited the statement as you suggested though. The page
 responds to the style sheet that I attached in the conventional form of
 attaching style sheets in both IE and Firefox. However, this one that I
 wanted to be recognized by IE so that it would render the page differently
 is still ignored. I had been using the conditional comment since
 it was the
 only method that really worked for me in the past when attaching two
 different style sheets.

 Would there be a better way to do this?

 It seems that when I try to link two style sheets, IE will ignore
 the one I
 have designed for it and choose the other entirely or certain
 styles from
 that sheet. It doesn't even matter if I place the other one last.
 If I place
 the one that I have designed for IE last, it affects the other
 browsers. If
 I put it first within a conditional comment, IE ignores it. If I put it
 last, thinking that will make it the priority style sheet, it
 still ignores
 it. How do any of you attach two style sheets to bring browsers into
 harmony?


Are you sure that the style sheet for IE actually works? Looking at the
design, there is little (apart from menus perhaps) that shouldn't work in
FF, IE6/7.

Maybe best to have your columns working across the browser range and build
your nav into that.

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[css-d] Pain in the footer (and the side)

2006-10-03 Thread Leigh Baker-Foley
Hello list,

The (validated) page in question is located here:
http://notlimitednyc.com/COSA/footpain.shtml
Its (validated) CSS is here:
http://notlimitednyc.com/COSA/style/footpain.css

Pains:
1. FOOTER: IE7 (7.0b3 on WinXP and 7.0rc1 on WinVista) floats the footer 
up and over the content that should be above it.
2. FOOTER: Konqueror 3.4.0-5 (Linux Fedora Core 4) shrinks the footer 
height significantly.
3. FOOTER: Opera 9 (Linux Fc4, OSX10.4, OSX10.3) shrink the footer 
height even more.
4. FOOTER: IE5 Mac adds an enormous amount of space below the content 
area above the footer at wider window sizes.
5. RIGHT SIDE: FF 2.0b1 (WinXP, Win2kPro, WinVista, OSX10.4) 
intermittently refuses to load the second or third image in the column, 
leaving the space it should take up blank.

Complications:
a.) The client absolutely requires IE5Mac accommodation.
b.) FooterStickAlt did NOT work across the many (33!) browsers that must 
be accommodated, so I abandoned it.

Have any of you Dr's. of CSS a trick or five up your sleeves to help?

Many thanks for your kind attention,
Leigh

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Re: [css-d] p tag inside table

2006-10-03 Thread Eliana Berlfein
I figured out why mine isn't responding. I set the line-height, the  
margin and the padding all to 0, and nothing happened. I realized  
that there is a p tag for the whole page that sets these things. When  
I remove that, the p shrinks to 0. Shouldn't the table one take  
precedence over the previous one? The first one is an id and the  
second one is a class. Does that make a difference?
Thanks,
Eliana

On Oct 3, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Dave Goodchild wrote:

 Space between paragraphs? Use margin in that case. Padding controls  
 space
 inside the element.


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[css-d] floating fields

2006-10-03 Thread MarcLuzietti
Is it possible, in Internet Explorer 6, to make fields expand and contract 
based up focus, without changing the rest of the layout of the page? I 
know it would require JavaScript, because IE6 doesn't support :hover on 
non-anchor elements, but I've had little luck with using z-index to float 
an element up above the rest of the layout and thus having everything else 
on the page jump around.

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Re: [css-d] IE6 and negative top margin

2006-10-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mike Strong wrote:
 IE6 doesn't seem to like the negative top margin for #today. Most of 
 the navbar disappears, though it works fine in Firefox. What's 
 happening and what do I need to change to make it work in IE6?

Unless I've overlooked something; the addition of...

#today {position: relative;}

...should make IE6 come to its senses. I didn't test your example.

regards
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Re: [css-d] p tag inside table

2006-10-03 Thread david
ID trumps class.

Eliana Berlfein wrote:
 I figured out why mine isn't responding. I set the line-height, the  
 margin and the padding all to 0, and nothing happened. I realized  
 that there is a p tag for the whole page that sets these things. When  
 I remove that, the p shrinks to 0. Shouldn't the table one take  
 precedence over the previous one? The first one is an id and the  
 second one is a class. Does that make a difference?
 Thanks,
 Eliana
 
 On Oct 3, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Dave Goodchild wrote:
 
 Space between paragraphs? Use margin in that case. Padding controls  
 space
 inside the element.

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[css-d] deactivating bullets in firefox

2006-10-03 Thread Raumin Dehghan
Does anybody know how to deactivate bullets in firefox?

I think they occur because I am using lists...

but they don't show up in int. explorer.

Thanks,
Raumin Dehghan
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Re: [css-d] Using divs transparent corners for rounded images... but

2006-10-03 Thread francky
Tim Ware wrote:

[...] But there's still The Problem.  
  

... and to finish this thread:

On Oct 3, 2006, at 19:12 NL time, Francky wrote off-list:

  Hi Tim,
  I'm sending this off list for I'm at my office now, while my css-d
  login is from home.
 
  The gap is exactly 8px.
  The 64x64 img is inside the div class=roundimg.
  The div class=roundimg is inside a div class=casematerial-2.
  And in the stylesheet is asked: .casematerial-2 img {margin-right:
  8px;}.
  Cascade!  :-)
  So: .roundimg img {margin: 0 !important;} is solving it.
 
  Greetings,
  francky

And then:
On Oct 3, 2006, at 19:46 NL time, Tim replied:

  Thanks Francky! That was the ticket.
  I think mine was a boneheaded oversight
  and I appreciate your shining a light on it.
 
  Best, Tim

End good, all good!
francky

PS the way I discovered it:

* In the Edit CSS sidebar in FF [1] I put a 1px solid red border
  around the roundimg-div. Result on the fly!- Determined the gap
  was inside the div, so it must be must be some margin or padding
  inside, and not the positioning of the div itself.
* Again in the sidebar: giving a green background color instead of
  the transparent background color to the corner images. Result:
  corners are fine and in the right (right) place, only just in the
  gap part of the div, and therefore not visible.
* Made a screenshot, and opened that in a paint program: saw the img
  was still 64x64 and not cut off. Determined the gap was 8px tall.

Then the simple trick for simple minds like me:

* The View CSS button in the Dev toolbar, and made a quick search
  for the string 8px. - After 2 false alarms  (18px's discovered
  somewhere) determined that .casematerial-2 img {margin-right: 8px)
  must be the culprit.
* Back to the page, changed the css in the sidebar, and determined:
  no doubt, indeed!

Within 2.3147 minutes, it is taking more time to write this down! ;-)

[1]
The big bug hunting time saver: Chris Pederick's Web Developer 
extension http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/.
It adds a a toolbar to the browser with a scala of wonderful web 
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Re: [css-d] deactivating bullets in firefox

2006-10-03 Thread francky
Raumin Dehghan wrote:

Does anybody know how to deactivate bullets in firefox?

I think they occur because I am using lists...

but they don't show up in int. explorer.

Thanks,
Raumin Dehghan

Hi Raumin,
Probably not showing in IE because of margins/paddings styles. The 
official way is:

ul { list-style-type: none; }

or, shorthand:

ul { list-style: none; }

See the w3c css rules about lists: 
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#lists

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Re: [css-d] floating fields

2006-10-03 Thread francky
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Is it possible, in Internet Explorer 6, to make fields expand and contract 
based up focus, without changing the rest of the layout of the page? I 
know it would require JavaScript, because IE6 doesn't support :hover on 
non-anchor elements, but I've had little luck with using z-index to float 
an element up above the rest of the layout and thus having everything else 
on the page jump around.
  

Hi Marc,
Without a page to see, only a general anwer is possible: you mean kind 
of this 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/showathover.htm?
It is using an empty,  not clickable a. If desired, with css it can be 
styled as normal text.
But then: how does the visitor know that there is something to hover?

Greetings,
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Re: [css-d] Div that fills in the empty space on a page

2006-10-03 Thread ~davidLaakso
Peter Beckman wrote:
 I have content that spans about 400px from the top of the page to the end
 of the content...]
 I want to have a nice footer exactly below the content all the way to the
 bottom of the page, but without enabling the scroll bars...]
 Beckman
Your users may need a pair of scissors to cut off some of the bottom at 
lower screen resolutions :-) .
FWIW, see:
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/height-100-percent.html
(based on code by Paul O'Brien)
Regards,
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[css-d] Can't nail this one little element

2006-10-03 Thread Adam Helweh
I of course would be done updating this site if it was not for one tiny
issue. Directly above the right hand home button there is something
causing a space to poke out on both IE and FF. I tried a dozen different
things, but could not isolate the issue. Any ideas how to fix it?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

http://www.lice-control.com/index.html

 

 

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[css-d] Validation assistance

2006-10-03 Thread Delos Woodruff
Hello folks!

I tried to validate a page and got a particular error. Specifically, 
because I'm using a strict html doctype, it didn't like the final  in 
the css link.

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=test.css / 

I followed the help info on this and it says that the final  is not 
necessary, but that seems highly irregular to me. It also said there is 
no need for /head or /body tags, but it doesn't hurt to have them 
and it doesn't fail to validate if you include them. It seems like if I 
delete that character, it will somehow cause problems somewhere down 
the line. Other than that and lacking a UTF8 charset statement, the 
page validates fine.

Would or has  anyone else bothered with fixing this?

Delos

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Re: [css-d] Validation assistance

2006-10-03 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Delos Woodruff wrote:
I tried to validate a page and got a particular error. Specifically, 
because I'm using a strict html doctype, it didn't like the final  in 
the css link.

link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=test.css / 

If you use HTML, use 

  link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=test.css

If you use XHTML, use

  link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=test.css /
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